Breaking news: another terrorist attack in France (3 dead, another beheading)

[WetinBeDat]

Prophet for all mankind refers to the idea that the Prophet is a role model for everyone. He was brought down as the seal of the messengers i.e. the final one to deliver God's message. That is where the phrase stems from.

That still has nothing to do with cultural practice. Things are not gonna be exactly the same as they are now when we're talking over 1000 years ago. It would be illogical for any rational being to think that by adopting his teachings and practices, the first thing you'd think about is whether or not it's ok to marry a 9 or 10 year old. That is outdated practice. The wife that he actually married for genuine love in the traditional ambit of a marriage was an older woman.

What isn't outdated is the way the Prophet treated women and children, his patience, his humility, his love and care for animals, his mercy in battle and so on. These are learning lessons that anyone would benefit from in today's society.

A role model for everyone, irrespective of cultural practice, wouldn't have sex with a child.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Sahih al-Bukhari 5825 shows that Muhammad allowed his followers to beat their wives until their skin turned green......

Hadith - Book of Dress - Sahih al-Bukhari - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)​

He literally said the Qur'an and the Sunnah and you quoted neither.

 

[GPBear]

Sahih al-Bukhari 5825 shows that Muhammad allowed his followers to beat their wives until their skin turned green......

Hadith - Book of Dress - Sahih al-Bukhari - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)​

I got a copy of the Quran right here breh, mind telling me which section that's in

"This false hadith was written down over 200 years after Muhammad died. The compiler of the Sahih al-Bukhari collection of hadiths was born in 810 and died in 870. Muhammad died in 632."
Oh shocking... it's not in the qu'ran... more islamaphobic propaganda

Koran 4:19
"O believers! It is not permissible for you to inherit women against their will or mistreat them"

I'm not even a muslim. It takes a cursory google search to disprove this shyt.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

A role model for everyone, irrespective of cultural practice, wouldn't have sex with a child.

He was an example to people at the time and he's served as a role model to people today. You cannot simply dismiss cultural practice as if it isn't significant. The consummation of his marriage was not even a discussion point at the time of its occurrence; even the Prophet's worst enemies did not speak on the matter. That tells you what was accepted back then, particularly when it was God-ordained. Look up the reasons for yourself if you're curious.

 

[Luke Cage]

I've never quite understood this concept.

Inherently, religion disrespects other belief systems and man's scope of morality, in general, so the finger-pointing shouldn't be at the opposing reaction.

I think it's quite simple to understand personally. Nobody is forcing you to not mind your own business. If I'm not a follower of that faith, than it's out of sight of mind as far as im concerned. If they were forcing it upon you during everyday circumstances then i can understand. Like a gay couple being unable to buy a wedding cake because the baker is christian or something. but alot these seem like they are just saying shyt just to say shyt.
like it literally went
No one:

Nobody at all:

You(not you you): let me make fun of this religion real quick.

Religious fanatic: Murder death kill

Me: I'm just as confused by the leap from jokes to murder, as i am by the random desire to just joke out of nowhere about something your not involved with.

 

[F K]

France's colonial-era crimes 'unforgotten' in Algeria

 

[WetinBeDat]

He was an example to people at the time and he's served as a role model to people today. You cannot simply dismiss cultural practice as if it isn't significant. The consummation of his marriage was not even a discussion point at the time of its occurrence; even the Prophet's worst enemies did not speak on the matter. That tells you what was accepted back then, particularly when it was God-ordained. Look up the reasons for yourself if you're curious.

The existence of a cultural practice doesn't make one obliged to partake. Again, you claim he was an example for all humanity, not just the 7th century. His actions don't reflect that.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I got a copy of the Quran right here breh, mind telling me which section that's in

Sahih al-Bukhari - Wikipedia​

Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī is one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadith collections) of Sunni Islam, compiled by Persian scholar Muhammad al-Bukhari. It was completed around 846 CE / 232 AH. Sunni Muslims view this as one of the two most trusted collections of hadith along with Sahih Muslim. The Arabic word sahih translates as authentic or correct. Sahih al-Bukhari, together with Sahih Muslim is known as Sahihayn.

These `Six Principal Works` are also known as `the Six Authentic Books` of Hadith. It does not mean that every Hadith found in these six books is authentic and unquestionably reliable, but that the majority of them are acceptable and authentic, except for Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim in which all are authentic. Hence, each Hadith from the remaining four books is tested based on its own merit and not as a Hadith quoted from one of the authentic six books.

 

[skylove4]

No, it didn't.



You described it as child molestation. There's nothing pure about child molestation.

Not my fault you can't seem to wrap your head around that things were different back then. How many capital punishment laws are outdated today, the roles of men/women in society, marriage laws (which across society, the age of consent was much younger than it is now) etc.?

I'm not saying I'd want my 9/10 year old daughter to experience the same thing but a lot of that reasoning has to do with the fact that I live in today's society. I can't deny that.

If you can find where child molestation is justified in Islam I'll concede.

Did your prophet have sex with this child. Yes or no?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

He literally said the Qur'an and the Sunnah and you quoted neither.

Sunni Islam - Wikipedia​

The Quran, together with hadith (especially those collected in Kutub al-Sittah) and binding juristic consensus, form the basis of all traditional jurisprudence within Sunni Islam.

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[GreenGrass]

thought that was Christianity

they on the same coin

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Sunni Islam - Wikipedia​

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The Sunnah cannot be quoted because it provides for the way in which witnesses saw the Prophet act at that time. The hadith, while complementing the Sunnah at times, is a written collection of such actions and events by people long after the fact. It has about as much authority as the Bible.

Meanwhile, the Qur'an is quotable and you opted for something wholly unreliable instead.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

The existence of a cultural practice doesn't make one obliged to partake. Again, you claim he was an example for all humanity, not just the 7th century. His actions don't reflect that.

Agree to disagree because we clearly have differing opinions on the influence of cultural practice and I said earlier this particular marriage was divinely ordained, so you can't ignore that either. Like I said, feel free to do your own research on it and come to your conclusions. I've said what I've said.

Did your prophet have sex with this child. Yes or no?

Yes, and she already reached the age of puberty.

 

[Damnshow]

Stupid european politicians don't realize that muslims and christians CAN'T live together. They thought they would have cheap labour from middle east, turns out a little bit of them are extremists too. This ain't just france that have same problem, even places like sweden are losing their patience.

Macron and Merkel are very weak politicians who are destroying european union. UK leaving them, Turkey getting stronger. But like I said, they wanted millions of cheap labour people....buy cheap buy twice.

 

[F K]

Agree to disagree because we clearly have differing opinions on the influence of cultural practice and I said earlier this particular marriage was divinely ordained, so you can't ignore that either. Like I said, feel free to do your own research on it and come to your conclusions. I've said what I've said.



Yes, and she already reached the age of puberty.

breh you need to stick to the. cultural relativism.trying to use this as a defense is