Breaking News: John Wall is talking about other players pockets again

[VladTheImpaler]

Washington is Beal's team.

 

[SchoolboyC]

No it's not.

Man you know damn well Kyrie playing style while being the #1 option isn't gonna bring in wins

nikkas in here stanning a point guard who assist totals actually went down when better players came to play with him

But yet Kyrie's playing style won more games in his first 3 seasons than Wall's did.

His assist totals went down because LeBron came in and thus he handled the ball less. You're highly delusional if you think John Wall or any other PG for that matter wouldn't have their assists go down if they played with LeBron.

I'm not a stan of any PG. Just pointing out idiotic logic

 

[Originalgangsta317]

But yet Kyrie's playing style won more games in his first 3 seasons than Wall's did.

His assist totals went down because LeBron came in and thus he handled the ball less. You're highly delusional if you think John Wall or any other PG for that matter wouldn't have their assists go down if they played with LeBron.

I'm not a stan of any PG. Just pointing out idiotic logic

Idiotic logic?

nikka you keep saying Wall first three seasons

Wall first year in the league his main guy to pass it to was Nick Young and Jordan Crawford

Second Year Jordan Crawford

Third year he finally got a little help with Beal and Nene

And still was able to elevate his game and get to the playoffs with Nene and Beal.

And even when John was playing with BUMS he still was getting 8 assist a NIGHT

Kyrie had two other lottery picks to work with and still was losing,his first year he gets a pass,but not them last two years,and you talking about they almost made the playoffs his 3rd year,nikka they was garbage 33-49 fukk outta here.

And yes you right any PG assist number would drop playing with Lebron,but Wall would still manage 8 assist with Lebron,Kyrie numbers couldn't afford to take a hit

Ball dominant Wall averages 10 assist a night easy.

Kyrie highest assist total while being the primary ball handler is what 5 assist a night?

He is not a Pg you build your team around once again,Wall you can do it with.

Wall>>>>Kyrie.

 

[Lewis Black]

That's the best you could come up with

I was tired

 

[Kd35brah]

I'll take Wall's 1 point less per game for 4 more assist per game.

If we're talking long term, Wall is younger, taller, faster, more explosive too.

I don't think John Wall is as good as he could be but I'll take him over Kyle Lowry any and every day.

So we going to ignore that Wall shoots 2 more shots per game than Lowry and still averages less? Why ignore all the other stats that favor Lowry by a considerable margin?

Lol at theColi only looking at per game stats.

Wall has never had a season as good as Lowry's in 2016. NEVER.

Idgaf about their age, i GAF about who is better right now and it isn't Wall.

Yah and you would be taking the worse player every time.

 

[Edub]

I can't just see Wall yelling at his agent talkin bout "I'm John Wall dammit" while doing that weird ass dance wit his arms....classic, this nikka betta make a playoff run to the conference finals before that ship sink

 

[Miggs]

I'll take Wall's 1 point less per game for 4 more assist per game.

If we're talking long term, Wall is younger, taller, faster, more explosive too.

I don't think John Wall is as good as he could be but I'll take him over Kyle Lowry any and every day.

Exactly...Wall will be better but right now he isnt...

 

[SchoolboyC]

Idiotic logic?

nikka you keep saying Wall first three seasons

Because you keep bringing up what they did when they were the #1 options. You're comparing 6 years of Wall to 3 years of Kyrie. It's a lopsided comparison. It's like when people compare LeBron's stats at X age to Jordan's even though LeBron came in at 18 while MJ was 21.

Here's the facts, their first 3 years:

Kyrie made 2 all-star teams, Wall made none
The Cavs won 78 games, the Wizards won 72
The closest Cleveland came to making the playoffs was in 13-14 when they were 5 GB. The closest the Wizards came was 12-13 when they were 9 GB.

In Wall's 4th season he finally carried the Wizards to the playoffs. In Kyrie's 4th year, one of the greatest players ever joined his squad and as a result he was no longer the #1 option, so therefore he didn't have an opportunity to do what Wall did in his 4th season. Is that really that hard to comprehend?

Wall first year in the league his main guy to pass it to was Nick Young and Jordan Crawford

Second Year Jordan Crawford

Third year he finally got a little help with Beal and Nene

And still was able to elevate his game and get to the playoffs with Nene and Beal.

And Kyrie was playing with studs the whole time?

His first year the most common starting lineup was him, 36 year old Anthony Parker, Omri Casspi, 35 year old Antawn Jamison & Anderson Varejao.
His second year the most common starting lineup was him, Dion Waiters, Alonzo Gee, Tristan Thompson & Tyler Zeller
His third year the most common starting lineup was him, C.J. Miles, Alonzo Gee, Tristan Thompson and a broken down/disinterested Andrew Bynum

And even when John was playing with BUMS he still was getting 8 assist a NIGHT

I never said that Kyrie was a better playmaker than Wall.

Kyrie had two other lottery picks to work with and still was losing,his first year he gets a pass,but not them last two years,and you talking about they almost made the playoffs his 3rd year,nikka they was garbage 33-49 fukk outta here.

The 8th seed in the East that year won 38 games. The Cavs won 33. So yes they were 5 games out from the playoffs.

And yes you right any PG assist number would drop playing with Lebron,but Wall would still manage 8 assist with Lebron,Kyrie numbers couldn't afford to take a hit

Maybe, maybe not. LeBron has led his team in assists in all but his rookie year

Ball dominant Wall averages 10 assist a night easy.

Kyrie highest assist total while being the primary ball handler is what 5 assist a night?

He is not a Pg you build your team around once again,Wall you can do it with.

Wall>>>>Kyrie.

Wall is a better playmaker. But assists aren't the be all, end all. Ricky Rubio averages 9 a game, no way in hell I'm taking him over Kyrie

 

[Originalgangsta317]

Because you keep bringing up what they did when they were the #1 options. You're comparing 6 years of Wall to 3 years of Kyrie. It's a lopsided comparison. It's like when people compare LeBron's stats at X age to Jordan's even though LeBron came in at 18 while MJ was 21.

Here's the facts, their first 3 years:

Kyrie made 2 all-star teams, Wall made none
The Cavs won 78 games, the Wizards won 72
The closest Cleveland came to making the playoffs was in 13-14 when they were 5 GB. The closest the Wizards came was 12-13 when they were 9 GB.

In Wall's 4th season he finally carried the Wizards to the playoffs. In Kyrie's 4th year, one of the greatest players ever joined his squad and as a result he was no longer the #1 option, so therefore he didn't have an opportunity to do what Wall did in his 4th season. Is that really that hard to comprehend?



And Kyrie was playing with studs the whole time?

His first year the most common starting lineup was him, 36 year old Anthony Parker, Omri Casspi, 35 year old Antawn Jamison & Anderson Varejao.
His second year the most common starting lineup was him, Dion Waiters, Alonzo Gee, Tristan Thompson & Tyler Zeller
His third year the most common starting lineup was him, C.J. Miles, Alonzo Gee, Tristan Thompson and a broken down/disinterested Andrew Bynum



I never said that Kyrie was a better playmaker than Wall.



The 8th seed in the East that year won 38 games. The Cavs won 33. So yes they were 5 games out from the playoffs.



Maybe, maybe not. LeBron has led his team in assists every season of his career.



Wall is a better playmaker. But assists aren't the be all, end all. Ricky Rubio averages 9 a game, no way in hell I'm taking him over Kyrie

Breh you just jabbering,I've said the ENTIRE time Wall is better than Kyrie due to the fact he gets players Better and his style equals to wins,as he has led his team to the playoffs.

Kyrie hasn't point blank all that could've would've crap I don't care about because he hasn't and IMO wasn't going to ever lead Cleveland to the playoffs as the #1 option/primary ball handler.

And Rubio ain't even a top 10 point guard why are you even bringing him up? And even with that Wall just averaged 20,10,5 Rubio or Kyrie would never do that EVER.

Wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rubio
Wall>>>Kyrie

 

[Primetime21]

 

[SchoolboyC]

Breh you just jabbering,I've said the ENTIRE time Wall is better than Kyrie due to the fact he gets players Better and his style equals to wins,as he has led his team to the playoffs.

Kyrie hasn't point blank all that could've would've crap I don't care about because he hasn't and IMO wasn't going to ever lead Cleveland to the playoffs as the #1 option/primary ball handler.

And Rubio ain't even a top 10 point guard why are you even bringing him up? And even with that Wall just averaged 20,10,5 Rubio or Kyrie would never do that EVER.

Wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rubio
Wall>>>Kyrie

You're praising Wall because he managed to make it to the playoffs by his 4th season as the #1 option while slighting Kyrie cause he didn't make it in his first 3, even though Wall didn't either. If you can't see the flaw in that then I don't know what to tell you

And there's nothing to suggest his style leads to more wins. The Celtics just won more games last season with Isaiah Thomas as #1 option than Wall ever did and statistically Isaiah is pretty much a 5'9 Kyrie.

So you don't think Kyrie could've ever led the Cavs to the playoffs as #1 the option, even though he had them 5 GB in 13-14, and if LeBron didn't come, they were going to be adding Wiggins, plus could've signed other quality players with the money that went to LeBron? I mean ok

 

[Originalgangsta317]

You're praising Wall because he managed to make it to the playoffs by his 4th season as the #1 option while slighting Kyrie cause he didn't make it in his first 3, even though Wall didn't either. If you can't see the flaw in that then I don't know what to tell you

So you don't think Kyrie could've ever led the Cavs to the playoffs as #1 the option, even though he had them 5 GB in 13-14, and if LeBron didn't come, they were going to be adding Wiggins, plus could've signed other quality players with the money that went to LeBron? I mean ok

Nope I don't think so,his style doesn't transalte to winning,when it happens we can talk about it until then

33-49 ok my man

 

[Kd35brah]

Why even pretend to talk about basketball if you know nothing about it? You literally read the post, couldn't reply to it and replaced it with a gif and posted a smiley. How pathetic.

Lillard shot 37% for the 2016 playoffs and gets his ass kissed by the Coli

Goddamn you idiots don't watch shyt

 

[CurrencyChase]

Kyrie had Dion Waiters and Tristan Thompson.

Wall had Beal and NeNe

Kyrie couldn't even win 30 games on his own my guy,Kyrie won a total of 78 games in 3 years,before Lebron came

He not what y'all think he is,I knew nikkas would hype him up once they start winning and I was cool with it

But y'all tripping now.

Wall>>>>Kyrie

Tristan was not as good as he is now because he has Kyrie and Lebron to score while he rebounds. he would not be as effective without great players. Nene a couple year ago was a top 15 PF and Gortat was a top 10 center. Then he had Beal. Kyrie has a hustle guy and rebounder Tristan, a cancer in the Locke room Bynum, a guy that didn't want to be there Deng, and Dion freaking Waiters.. breh. Give Kyrie, Nene and Gortat and he is making it out the 2nd round in the east.

 

[Morethan1]

This is a very interesting debate. I really enjoyed reading everyone's point of view.

Especially @SchoolboyC and @Originalgangsta317