BREAKING: Ron Desantis BANS Diversity Programs in Florida Colleges

5thbornpowerseed

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Breh get the fukk outta here with this nonsense.

Gay black men exist. There's nothing wrong with being a politician and supporting both black rights and gay rights. It ain't a zero sum game.

Black lesbians in college is not the problem. No one is teaching you how to have lesbian sex in school. Cac MAGA racists and bigots going after peoples freedoms are the problem.

Yall trying way to hard to cape for these fascists

Who are you talking to?
I’m not debating on anyones behalf because I damn sure didn’t say any of that shyt you strung together in your post.

Debate/argue against what I said not some pre packaged talking points.

1. Gay black academics have created a climate where rejection of lgbtq ideals = anti blackness.

2. Instead falling hook line and sinker for the obvious bait, address the root cause…The co-opting of the narrative of black struggle by both lgbtq and other minorities that they so obviously use to further their own agendas.

Debate those points please.
 

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Who are you talking to?
I’m not debating on anyones behalf because I damn sure didn’t say any of that shyt you strung together in your post.

Debate/argue against what I said not some pre packaged talking points.

1. Gay black academics have created a climate where rejection of lgbtq ideals = anti blackness.

2. Instead falling hook line and sinker for the obvious bait, address the root cause…The co-opting of the narrative of black struggle by both lgbtq and other minorities that they so obviously use to further their own agendas.

Debate those points please.


I agree the gay agenda has co-opted our struggle it used to bother me but now I see it as coalition building.


Black males are the most hated demo in America we have to find allies even if they might make us uncomfortable.


My nemesis, and yours as well as a Black male, is conservative White people that want to disenfranchise me politically, socially, economically, etc.


As long as the LBGT reigns themselves in from the most extreme ideas I can stomach them.
 

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Trying to reframe oppression of minorities as just a "symptom", and fighting against oppression as "the cause", is a wild fukking take.

Im sure it would appear that way if you simply ignore context.

The symptom is the framing of anti lgbtq as anti black. The cause is the concerted effort of left leaning academics to merge black struggle with lgbtq rights. So when the later is rejected and the former is also rejected as collateral damage, the knee jerk reaction is view things through the familiar lens of “oppression of minorities “.

I’m not a “minority” and I’m not lgbtq. I’m black.
 

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Im sure it would appear that way if you simply ignore context.

The symptom is the framing of anti lgbtq as anti black. The cause is the concerted effort of left leaning academics to merge black struggle with lgbtq rights. So when the later is rejected and the former is also rejected as collateral damage, the knee jerk reaction is view things through the familiar lens of “oppression of minorities “.

I’m not a “minority” and I’m not lgbtq. I’m black.

I just can't imagine living in America and being this dense about what's going on.

No, Republicans did not wake up in 2021 and suddenly decide to attack Black people and LGBT people because of some shyt that "left-leaning academics" did. Reactionary conservatives have ALWAYS attacked Black people. Reactionary conservations have ALWAYS attacked LGBT people. Reactionary conservatives have ALWAYS attacked immigrants, and religious minorities, and anyone else on the margins who looked vulnerable. These aren't separate agendas for them, it's always been the same calling card.

No one here has said, "anti-LGBT is anti-Black". But anyone with half a brain can see that the same people going at LGBT people are going at Black people, and they're doing it for the same motivation both times. Any breh cheering on the election of anti-LGBT politicians is digging a hole for their own people.

Claiming that academia is "the cause" of conservatives lumping together their attacks on minorities is just wild. In the 1950s, the same conservatives pulling the red scare were the conservatives lynching Black people were the conservatives going gay bashing. The people who hated Bayard Rustin for being part of the Civil Rights Movement were the same ones who hated him for being part of the Gay Rights Movement. These have never been separate agendas. Academics have done nothing more than point that out.
 

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lol, some of y’all are so scared that your kids gonna be gay that you would let someone literally take rights away from you. How bout this, spend some fukking time with your kids, and then you ain’t gotta worry about any of that shyt. How do y’all have kids that are so easily influenced that hearing that gay people exist, they might “turn” gay? Unfortunately feeble minded people are are gonna always vote against their best interest, as long as you prop the shyt up with something that they hate exists, you can get them to vote for ANYTHING

It's so frustrating how downright stupid so many people are. You can point this out to them, with evidence and they'll still be on some "bu bu trannies", "bu bu da gay agenda".

Even with the drag queen shyt. No one gave a fukk about drag queens until the Republicans decided that this would be the new weapon to appeal to the stupid. The reason they do drag queen story hour for kids is that kids respond better to the animated nature of it. It's not turning any kids gay, and it's not for the purpose of "grooming" kids. If some parents don't like it, guess what? Don't take your kids to it. Simple. Parents been taking their kids to movies with drag (Mrs Doubtfire, Nutty Professor, etc.), watch shows with drag (Martin, etc.) for decades. Republicans decided it would be a good distraction from their lack of plans to deal with ANY societal issues, since they are owned full stop by billionaires, and here we are. Same with the trans issue. Divide and conquer is the name of the game for the right wing, because they exist solely to protect power and wealth for a small group of white males. Can't run on that, so they need "look over there!" issues like abortion, drag queens, trans, caravans, woke, War on Christmas, muslim terrorists/Sharia law taking over America, QAnon, and other crap.

DeSantis, like the fascist he is, is using these things to eliminate all types of things from curriculums like racism, because can't have little Tommy learning the actual history of this country.
 

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Who are you talking to?
I’m not debating on anyones behalf because I damn sure didn’t say any of that shyt you strung together in your post.

Debate/argue against what I said not some pre packaged talking points.

1. Gay black academics have created a climate where rejection of lgbtq ideals = anti blackness.

2. Instead falling hook line and sinker for the obvious bait, address the root cause…The co-opting of the narrative of black struggle by both lgbtq and other minorities that they so obviously use to further their own agendas.

Debate those points please.

Bro the fact you even think the mean ole bossy gay community is the reason Ron DeSantis absolutely detests black history, people, activism, politics and racism being taught in Florida schools shows me the only person blinded by battery powered talking points of "alphabet gang" is you. The level of cognitive dissonance it takes to somehow blame Democrats and the gay community for the racist actions of some redneck southern conservatives is astounding.

Cus yeah, all we gotta do is keep "the gheyz away from our protests as much as possible and suddenly Deklantis totally loves our "woke" "violent mob" activism and rhetoric against racism, white supremacy, and police brutality being taught to "our children." All we gotta do is promise the noble Christian white man that we'll keep the gays away from our academic circles and suddenly Ron Deklantis will be totally happy with "woke" activism, racism, white supremacy, and anti-racism political theory being "taught to your children" in our schools.

This is all the fault of the gays for "co-opting" our history. And big conservative zaddy is just protecting our kids. Otherwise this insecure MAGA psycho is totally down with children learning that white poeple are racist, and America is plagued with inequality towards non-white people.

Breh what I'm not gonna do is even entertain another one of these dumbassed right wing-adjacent "pro-black" talking points that makes no sense just for the sake of "debate" with you bootlicking weirdos. A racist conservative white man wants to ban black history, literature, and political theory from even being talked about in schools. You can distract some other dumbass out there with your barbershop babble and fearmongering of gays, but some of us are not so easily fooled and know how to stay focused on the REAL root cause of threats to our freedom of speech right now. And that is the post-Trump white conservative movement, not the gay community.

@Silver Surfer come collect another one of your Ron DeSantis-end gayness crusaders. Another weirdo who's so worried about his kids becoming gay he'll big up and justify straight up white supremacist laws. Weak cowards.
 
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It's so frustrating how downright stupid so many people are. You can point this out to them, with evidence and they'll still be on some "bu bu trannies", "bu bu da gay agenda".

Even with the drag queen shyt. No one gave a fukk about drag queens until the Republicans decided that this would be the new weapon to appeal to the stupid. The reason they do drag queen story hour for kids is that kids respond better to the animated nature of it. It's not turning any kids gay, and it's not for the purpose of "grooming" kids.
of course it is :yeshrug: that's a lie. "kids respond better" :comeon::childplease:

im all for letting adults do whatever the hell they want, and republicans are generally fulla shyt. but theres nothing wrong with keeping all this militant fakkitry away from young kids, and the fukk out of schools. democrats look terrible, blindly defending this fukking nonsense, and its only getting worse

you wanna talk about evidence? how the hell do you explain why there's an astronomical rise in Gen Z identifying as trannies? :dead: your explanation is what, exactly?

 
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Why don't conservatives just home school their children if they are so pressed about keeping gay children and teachers away from their kids

It's not up to the govt to segregate schools to accommodate bigots anymore
Society is going forward not backwards that's why it's obvious the GOP stripping history out of the classroom and all institutions is for a I'll purpose

The fact that they think people are becoming gay and Trans because of grooming shows you how dumb and uninformed they are about sexuality in general. They don't want sex ed even taught in schools anymore

Miss me with the grooming talk they want society rolled back to Pleasantville
 

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Dems stay sliding that gay shyt along side black issues ala trans live matter shyt.

At the highest levels of academia the loudest black voices are black lesbians.

So now the politics dictates you should be mad at the symptom and not the cause.

How about demanding control of the black narrative back from the letter people instead?:yeshrug:
I wish they would stop

They’re literally trying to make gay shyt synonymous with being black

Media been trying to do this shyt for years
 

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of course it is :yeshrug: that's a lie. "kids respond better" :comeon::childplease:

im all for letting adults do whatever the hell they want, and republicans are generally fulla shyt. but theres nothing wrong with keeping all this militant fakkitry away from young kids, and the fukk out of schools. democrats look terrible, blindly defending this fukking nonsense, and its only getting worse

you wanna talk about evidence? how the hell do you explain why there's an astronomical rise in Gen Z identifying as trannies? :dead: your explanation is what, exactly?



The first generation to fight for trans rights also has more people openly and safely coming out as transgendered, gay, lesbian, or bisexual than generations before them.

Stop the presses. How can anyone explain this!!?
 
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