#BREAKING: Supreme Court rules against Trump adding citizenship question to 2020 US Census

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people who chose to come here illegally don't deserve any representation in washington :yeshrug: call it a consequence of, you know, going to another country illegally. what a pathetic position

So you're just going to ignore the fact that this is also going to cause legal immigrants to not participate? :mjlol:

So you're just going to ignore that this is going to shift funding and political power away from urban areas to the detriment of the people living there (most of whom ARE citizens, including most people on the coli probably including you)? :mjlol:


So you're just to going ignore that the census is supposed to count everybody, not just citizens? :mjlol:



It's incredible how people can ignore their own self-interest just to hate on somebody. :wow:
 

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So you're just going to ignore the fact that is also going to cause legal immigrants to not participate? :mjlol:
So you're just going to ignore that this is going to shift funding and political power away from urban areas to the detriment of the people living there (most of whom ARE citizens, including most people on the coli), probably including you)? :mjlol:

So you're just to going ignore that the census is supposed to count everybody, not just citizens? :mjlol:



It's incredible how people can ignore their own self-interest just to hate on somebody. :wow:
:russell: explain in detail how illegals not answering the census will lead to a decrease in funding on any fukkin kind of a local level

your agenda is blatant and embarrassing :mjlol:
 

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:russell: explain in detail how illegals not answering the census will lead to a decrease in funding on any fukkin kind of a local level

your agenda is blatant and embarrassing :mjlol:

It's not just illegals who won't answer, it's their legal friends and relatives too. What's so hard to understand? :mindblown:
 

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It's not just illegals who won't answer, it's their legal friends and relatives too. What's so hard to understand? :mindblown:
its sad to watch you prove fox news talking points to be correct and based in reality

Sad!
 

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Yeah...I don't really see the issue with the question.
unless we are rounding up all immigrants and kicking them out, it matters.

People will be afraid to use sign up because of what Trump has done and what ICE does. That means less resources for communities.

There is no reason for him to do this other than to put marks on people who are immigrants. You brehs need to wake up.
 

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people who chose to come here illegally don't deserve any representation in washington :yeshrug: call it a consequence of, you know, going to another country illegally. what a pathetic position
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There is no logical argument whatsoever against a government asking a citizenship question in population census...

ZERO
 

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unless we are rounding up all immigrants and kicking them out, it matters.

People will be afraid to use sign up because of what Trump has done and what ICE does. That means less resources for communities.

There is no reason for him to do this other than to put marks on people who are immigrants. You brehs need to wake up.
“The guy whose literally proposed third Reich domestic policy several times over in regards to ethnic and religious minorities won’t come after my group. Only the ones he’s named to this point.”
 

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How the Census Citizenship Question Could Affect Future Elections

The census already has a history of undercounting communities of color. In the 1990 census, Hispanic Americans were undercounted by about 5 percent. In 2010, the census failed to count 1.5 million Latino and Black people. In 2020, the Census Bureau will ask for citizenship information – a move that will dissuade millions from responding and make the undercounting problem far, far worse.

Why does an undercount matter?

For one, the census population count is used to apportion representation in Congress, allocate votes in the Electoral College, and draw congressional and state legislative districts. Apportionment is based on the number of people who live in a district, regardless of their legal status.

If the citizenship question goes forward and the census experiences a sizeable undercount, states with large immigrant populations could very well lose political representation in Congress. An undercount would also shift power away from urban areas — since about 61 percent of undocumented immigrants live in just 20 U.S. cities —and toward rural areas, which already have disproportionate political power as a result of the Electoral College and the Senate.


Congressional and state legislative districts in immigrant-heavy cities like San Antonio, Houston, and Miami will receive the same number of representatives as non-urban districts in the same state, despite having larger populations — a situation that dilutes the political power of urban immigrant communities.

In other words, immigrant communities of color will get less electoral representation than other U.S. residents, attacking the fundamental idea of equal representation. And Latino citizens — already disproportionately burdened by a wave of voter suppression efforts such as laws requiring documentary proof of citizenship to register to vote — again face a significant threat to their political influence.

What’s more, census data also determines how an estimated $900 billion in funding for crucial social service, health, and education programs is allocated. If immigrants are undercounted, that means the communities in which they live are likely to receive less Title I funding for elementary and secondary schools, less funding for children’s health insurance coverage under the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and less Medicaid funding.

Here’s the saddest part: the Trump administration knows all of this. The entire purpose of the census survey, as required by the Constitution, is to get an accurate headcount of all “persons” living in the U.S., regardless of citizenship status. So why is the administration is charging ahead with a question that they’ve already conceded will undercount more than three million people?

Simply put, the administration doesn’t want certain people to count. Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach — who played a key role in adding the question, along with former White House adviser Steve Bannonsaid clearly that the goal of the citizenship question was to move toward “excluding illegal aliens from the apportionment process.”

Attacks on immigrants have become a hallmark of the Trump administration, and with the citizenship question, the administration is attempting to do 10 years’ worth of damage in one go. The trial that starts on Nov. 5 seeks to stop this plan, which intentionally discriminates against immigrants and communities of color and violates the constitutional mandate to count the U.S. population accurately.
 

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There is no logical argument whatsoever against a government asking a citizenship question in population census...

ZERO

Court Blocks Trump’s Plan to Add a Citizenship Question to 2020 Census

A federal court has blocked the Trump administration’s decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, stating that it constitutes an “egregious” violation of federal law. The ruling deals a serious blow to the administration’s plan to use the 2020 census to attack the financial and political resources of immigrants and communities of color.

In a decision released Tuesday, Judge Jesse M. Furman determined that the Trump administration's attempt to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, “would undermine the proposition—central to the rule of law—that ours is a government of laws, and not of men" and that it violated the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) in many different ways — “a veritable smorgasbord of classic, clear-cut APA violations.” In the end, Judge Furman concluded that if the Trump administration got its way and a citizenship question was put on the census, “hundreds of thousands—if not millions—of people will go uncounted in the census.”

In particular, Judge Furman ruled that Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross’s decision was “arbitrary and capricious” pursuant to the APA, which governs federal agency action. As demonstrated at trial, Secretary Ross decided to add a citizenship question in the early days of the Trump administration and only after did it “set out to find a ‘legal rationale’ to support it”— a reverse engineering process that both directly contravenes the APA and goes against the story that Secretary Ross has told for months. During the course of our litigation, we obtained documents that revealed that Secretary Ross lied to Congress about the origin of the citizenship question, testifying that he added the question because the Department of Justice had requested it in order to better enforce the Voting Rights Act (VRA). However, as litigation revealed, Secretary Ross actually started considering a citizenship question almost 10 months before DOJ made its request, and he had even compelled Commerce Department staff to push DOJ to make the ask in the first place.


I don't understand why it's so hard for some of you to see what is going on with this administration.

From the article in the OP: It’s rare for the Supreme Court to bypass a regional appeals court and agree to hear a direct appeal of a district court ruling.


Supreme Court's ‘10th justice’ favors unusual tactic for Trump cases

Over the past year, the federal government’s lead Supreme Court litigator has repeatedly attempted to expedite Trump administration cases by using an unorthodox maneuver, one that legal experts say is rarely successful.
 
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