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'Fake news': China fires back, denies claims of ongoing trade talks



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'Fake news': China fires back, denies claims of ongoing trade talks



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1/39
@Molson_Hart
Supply chains are like refrigerators.

Everyone needs them.

No one knows how they work.

1. Air freight will not solve this. It’s too expensive and there isn’t enough capacity in planes to replace boats, which move more goods by cubic volume.

2. You also cannot solve this the way the world did with Russian oil.

Unless, the U.S. Customs starts encouraging major customs fraud and allowing everyone to relabel their Chinese goods as Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, and Vietnamese (the other nearby port countries), this product cannot come here. There will be massive amounts of cheating, more than ever, but we cannot solve this through rerouting.

3. This is not just about empty shelves and it’s not solved by buffer inventory.

It’s also about jobs, jobs in warehouses, jobs in the port, jobs in trucking and logistics, and jobs in purchasing.

And trust me, it doesn’t matter what your buffer is, you will go out stock because some products always sell more than forecast.

Final thoughts:

When Trump was first elected, I sent my resume to 3 connected people in the hope that I might be able to assist the administration and, more importantly, the country.

The responses I got ranged from silence to “get out of here, no way.”

I’m politically independent and spoke to the Biden administration when I had an opportunity, but this administration is not (yet?) listening.

It’s been odd to see them attempt goals that I support (bringing manufacturing back and American economic revitalization), but do so in a counterproductive way.

And now I am close to having lost all hope that these goals can be achieved in a way that benefits us, Americans.

We will see what happens…

[Quoted tweet]
The White House has put itself and the country in a bad situation but doesn’t realize it yet.

Around April 10th China to USA trade shut down.

It takes ~30 days for containers to go from China to LA.

45 to Houston by sea, 45 to Chicago by train.

55 to New York by sea.

That means that there are no economic effects of what was done on April 10th until about May 10th.

Around that time (it’s already started to happen) trucking work is going to dry up. Warehouses will start doing layoffs because no labor is needed to unload containers and some products will be out of stock, reducing the need for shipping labor.

All this will start in the Los Angeles area.

After about 2 weeks, it’ll start hitting Chicago and Houston.

Let’s say the White House, after 3 weeks, changes its mind, on May 31st.

“This isn’t working out like we thought it would. Tariffs back to 0.”

Let’s say China says “bygones be bygones, we’ll go back to how things were”.

Let’s say every factory in China that got screwed by their orders being cancelled says the same thing “no problem, we’ll make and ship”.

The problem is, even under the most favorable conditions of China and the factories restarting economic ties as though nothing happened, it will be at least another 30 days before economic activity is revived.

And that’s just in LA.

In Chicago/Houston, you’ll need to wait another 45 days.

New York, at that point, will still be getting containers from before April 10th, they will then have 50 days (May 31 minus April 10) of zero economic activity at the ports, in trucking of Chinese goods, in warehousing.

The whole situation is a bit like lockdowns. Once you shut down, it takes a long time to get economic activity back to where it was, if you ever can.

And again, this assumes, that China and its factories, which make things you can’t buy elsewhere, will start right back up again as though nothing happened, which is unlikely.

It’s almost like we’re speeding towards a brick wall but the driver of the car doesn’t see it yet.

By the time he does, it’ll be too late to hit the brakes.


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2/39
@greggcarey
@Jason please read these closely.



3/39
@caseyames
And this completely ignores the supply chain shock well see if everyone starts shipping shyt again at the same time.

I know you know that, but it'll 100% be a reality even in the best case



4/39
@endurise8
Transport is one thing but do you know if manufacturing has stopped in China



5/39
@cryptosmiff
@chamath says send a fat check and theyll listen



6/39
@Thrasymachus5
@threadreaderapp unroll thread



7/39
@KingBob53
It gets the layoffs the FED is desperately seeking

Sad but the truth



8/39
@Lilli8947
@threadreaderapp unroll



9/39
@RZ_3_
What are major retailers like Walmart, Home Depot etc all planning to do? Still shipping and will raise prices? Pause, allow stocks outs?



10/39
@Glen_Evans_01
well-deserved follow.



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11/39
@waters_deng
Our government has been focused on tearing down China instead of building up America. It's the wrong approach. If we invest half of the money that we use to fight foreign wars, we can modernize our infrastructure and rebuild our manufacturing sector without tariff wars.



12/39
@KurtisHanni
This last year+ has been a dream.

I meet with business owners daily to look for financial solutions.

We help them:
1. Optimize their cash flow
2. Create more profit
3. Pay less taxes

But more than anything, we’re a strategic partner and coach.

Someone they turn to when they don’t know the answer. When the times get tough.

I’ve had more than one business owner tell me they’re sleeping better, more present when with family, and feel like they’re finally in control of their business (instead of it controlling them).

I can’t imagine anything more rewarding.

For people watching from the sidelines, it seems like an overnight success.

But in reality, it came after a 15+ year career of day-in and day-out partnering with my CEOs as a full-time CFO.

Now instead of building one business at a time, I get to help many at the same time!

Today, I’m headed to meet with a group of other business owners to learn and grow together.

I am truly living the dream!



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13/39
@WojtekSar
It's not even about the transport industry, because that's the tip of the iceberg. The production industry will suffer even more, because some elements won't reach the factory on time and the lines will have to be stopped, this will cause downtime, quality problems - layoffs



14/39
@JoaodosReisAlb1
I know how a refrigerator works.



15/39
@Fly_Sistah
I was told years ago to "be a student of the business", basically understand every aspect of how your company works & how products reach customers. So many people have no idea what's about to happen.

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Trump said he’d impose a baseline 60% tariff on Chinese exports. Laptop prices could spike by 50%. The cost of video game consoles could rise around 40%, making the upcoming PS5 Pro cost almost $1,000. The Switch 2 may be backward compatible, but it may cost quite a bit more.


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16/39
@HughEdw54983916
There are ways. Anyone who has worked in logistics in Russia can explain.



17/39
@Tarde_WaterBear
purchasing depts, buyers, accountants who deal with inventory/production costs know.
it doesn't take much to destroy even a small part of that supply chain & when it breaks it's absolutely H*LL getting needed vital parts for MRP needs.
although Recession KILLS production needs🤣



18/39
@FinDataByLig
@SeanDuffyWI @howardlutnick



19/39
@fullmoon6661
I thought refrigerators were quite well understood lol



20/39
@FormFollowsFctn
Whaddya mean nobody knows how a refrigerator works?



21/39
@GerauDub
It may be the biggest economic shock to the US since lock down but there will be billions to be made exploiting this situation.



22/39
@mavy85
Does it bring more goods to other parts of the world? Ships will have soon some free capacity.



23/39
@VictorishB123
The "bring back manufacturing" rhetoric from the admin puzzles me. US manufacturing output has been increasing. What has been in decline is number of people working in manufacturing but that seems to be by choice. We have 500,000 unfilled openings and 1 million expected by 2030.



24/39
@carrybeyond
And you’re not supposed to turn a refrigerator off.



25/39
@LucasPacioli1
Yet a good faith effort to understand basic HVAC concepts explains how refrigerators work. Same with supply chains.



26/39
@Heather20164
Agreed I used to work in the industry and I did for 18 years. The other problem is with LTL companies who may possibly have a delivery somewhere they will come back empty and the ruins the whole pricing system so rates will go up. Same goes for anything in the air



27/39
@Laxman35895072
@SecScottBessent
@POTUS
@realDonaldTrump



28/39
@driszhor
I know how refrigerators work.



29/39
@TedLohr
CTR’s are like your Tupperware. Everyone has too much to fit in their storage drawer. So there needs to some in the drawer, some in use in the fridge, and some in the dishwasher. We are now approaching a moment (like Covid) where all the CTR’s will be in the wrong places



30/39
@Oof86583180
Like the Defense of Department did, we're gonna find a lot of intermediate goods is Chinese stuff rebadged "Made in the US".



31/39
@Bitcoinsyrup
Respectfully, you have a decent grasp of 2nd and 3rd order downstream effects. However, you assume you see all the variables the administration sees, and you just dont. You can't make these blanket statements without having an even higher overview.



32/39
@plantifull
thank you for sharing and doing what you can to help online



33/39
@CapitalFixation
Can you buy your way to a conversation with the trump coins? Not kidding.



34/39
@beverlyray8700
Dangerous malignant narcissist driving the car toward the cliff.



35/39
@smartalek180
Followed for factuality.



36/39
@TurbulentTimes7
47 is turning into a disaster. Cacklin Kamala would've been better than this utter 💩 show disappointment.



37/39
@KratoskaPeter
Not just jobs in trucking, warehousing but in the stores. Do you think Walmart will keep people standing around? Americas 3 biggest employers Walmart, Amazon, Home Depot, lowes, target.... Dollar stores.



38/39
@GordonChum29691
It is a controlled demolition of the economy.
"You will own nothing, and be happy."
(that you're still alive)



39/39
@VelvetFucsia
Cartels are going to jump at this new opportunity & hopefully diminish their fentanyl & other illicit drug operations. @Mercadolibre /search?q=#MELI stands to benefit




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@Molson_Hart
Supply chains are like refrigerators.

Everyone needs them.

No one knows how they work.

1. Air freight will not solve this. It’s too expensive and there isn’t enough capacity in planes to replace boats, which move more goods by cubic volume.

2. You also cannot solve this the way the world did with Russian oil.

Unless, the U.S. Customs starts encouraging major customs fraud and allowing everyone to relabel their Chinese goods as Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, and Vietnamese (the other nearby port countries), this product cannot come here. There will be massive amounts of cheating, more than ever, but we cannot solve this through rerouting.

3. This is not just about empty shelves and it’s not solved by buffer inventory.

It’s also about jobs, jobs in warehouses, jobs in the port, jobs in trucking and logistics, and jobs in purchasing.

And trust me, it doesn’t matter what your buffer is, you will go out stock because some products always sell more than forecast.

Final thoughts:

When Trump was first elected, I sent my resume to 3 connected people in the hope that I might be able to assist the administration and, more importantly, the country.

The responses I got ranged from silence to “get out of here, no way.”

I’m politically independent and spoke to the Biden administration when I had an opportunity, but this administration is not (yet?) listening.

It’s been odd to see them attempt goals that I support (bringing manufacturing back and American economic revitalization), but do so in a counterproductive way.

And now I am close to having lost all hope that these goals can be achieved in a way that benefits us, Americans.

We will see what happens…

[Quoted tweet]
The White House has put itself and the country in a bad situation but doesn’t realize it yet.

Around April 10th China to USA trade shut down.

It takes ~30 days for containers to go from China to LA.

45 to Houston by sea, 45 to Chicago by train.

55 to New York by sea.

That means that there are no economic effects of what was done on April 10th until about May 10th.

Around that time (it’s already started to happen) trucking work is going to dry up. Warehouses will start doing layoffs because no labor is needed to unload containers and some products will be out of stock, reducing the need for shipping labor.

All this will start in the Los Angeles area.

After about 2 weeks, it’ll start hitting Chicago and Houston.

Let’s say the White House, after 3 weeks, changes its mind, on May 31st.

“This isn’t working out like we thought it would. Tariffs back to 0.”

Let’s say China says “bygones be bygones, we’ll go back to how things were”.

Let’s say every factory in China that got screwed by their orders being cancelled says the same thing “no problem, we’ll make and ship”.

The problem is, even under the most favorable conditions of China and the factories restarting economic ties as though nothing happened, it will be at least another 30 days before economic activity is revived.

And that’s just in LA.

In Chicago/Houston, you’ll need to wait another 45 days.

New York, at that point, will still be getting containers from before April 10th, they will then have 50 days (May 31 minus April 10) of zero economic activity at the ports, in trucking of Chinese goods, in warehousing.

The whole situation is a bit like lockdowns. Once you shut down, it takes a long time to get economic activity back to where it was, if you ever can.

And again, this assumes, that China and its factories, which make things you can’t buy elsewhere, will start right back up again as though nothing happened, which is unlikely.

It’s almost like we’re speeding towards a brick wall but the driver of the car doesn’t see it yet.

That means that there are no economic effects of what was done on April 10th until about May 10th. <<<<

Around that time (it’s already started to happen) trucking work is going to dry up. Warehouses will start doing layoffs because no labor is needed to unload containers and some products will be out of stock, reducing the need for shipping labor. <<<<<

All this will start in the Los Angeles area. <<<<


After about 2 weeks, it’ll start hitting Chicago and Houston.

Let’s say the White House, after 3 weeks, changes its mind, on May 31st.

“This isn’t working out like we thought it would. Tariffs back to 0.”

Let’s say China says “bygones be bygones, we’ll go back to how things were”.

Let’s say every factory in China that got screwed by their orders being cancelled says the same thing “no problem, we’ll make and ship”.


The tariffs from April 10th take 30 days to show its true effects because it takes a minimum 30 days for containers from China to reach the US (LA). <<<<<
Pay closer attention May 10th
:sas2: <<<<<

Think about all the jobs in warehouses, ports, logistics and so on that’ll be affected. <<<<<
It’s about to get SPOOKY
:whew:

@Gloxina remember when I said this a couple days ago?
Buckle up, bc it’s about to get so SPOOKY :whew::wow:
 

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That means that there are no economic effects of what was done on April 10th until about May 10th. <<<<

Around that time (it’s already started to happen) trucking work is going to dry up. Warehouses will start doing layoffs because no labor is needed to unload containers and some products will be out of stock, reducing the need for shipping labor.

All this will start in the Los Angeles area. <<<<


After about 2 weeks, it’ll start hitting Chicago and Houston.

Let’s say the White House, after 3 weeks, changes its mind, on May 31st.

“This isn’t working out like we thought it would. Tariffs back to 0.”

Let’s say China says “bygones be bygones, we’ll go back to how things were”.

Let’s say every factory in China that got screwed by their orders being cancelled says the same thing “no problem, we’ll make and ship”.




@Gloxina remember when I said this a couple days ago?
Buckle up, bc it’s about to get so SPOOKY :whew::wow:
Yep. Between now middle of next week I’m stocking the fridge, pantry and supplies. I was more than prepared for the Covid lockdown.

Here we go again
 

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That means that there are no economic effects of what was done on April 10th until about May 10th. <<<<

Around that time (it’s already started to happen) trucking work is going to dry up. Warehouses will start doing layoffs because no labor is needed to unload containers and some products will be out of stock, reducing the need for shipping labor. <<<<<

All this will start in the Los Angeles area. <<<<


After about 2 weeks, it’ll start hitting Chicago and Houston.

Let’s say the White House, after 3 weeks, changes its mind, on May 31st.

“This isn’t working out like we thought it would. Tariffs back to 0.”

Let’s say China says “bygones be bygones, we’ll go back to how things were”.

Let’s say every factory in China that got screwed by their orders being cancelled says the same thing “no problem, we’ll make and ship”.




@Gloxina remember when I said this a couple days ago?
Buckle up, bc it’s about to get so SPOOKY :whew::wow:

And what people don't understand is that:

America keeps saying China needs to call but china is just going to ride it out. That means Trump will have to bend the knee and loose face to china and to every other country.

Because other countries that have been waiting to see and they will see that if you don't give in the US will break.

An economic conflict between China and the United States has been ongoing since January 2018, when U.S. president Donald Trump began setting tariffs and other trade barriers on China with the goal of forcing it to make changes to what the U.S. says are longstanding unfair trade practices and intellectual property theft.[1] The first Trump administration stated that these practices may contribute to the U.S.–China trade deficit, and that the Chinese government requires transfer of American technology to China.[2] In response to US trade measures, CCP general secretary Xi Jinping's administration accused the Trump administration of engaging in nationalist protectionismand took retaliatory action.[3][4] After the trade war escalated through 2019, in January 2020 the two sides reached a tense phase-one agreement.[5][6][7] By the end of Trump's first presidency, the trade war was widely characterized by American media outlets as a failure for the United States.[8][9]

So trump wants to negotiate a new deal which will take times because everyone wants to best for their country. If trump like a normal person would have started procedure to a new deal with China things would have been different. Now China knows it's in a stronger position and can play hardball when negotiating a new deal.

And a new deal won't be done in 4 weeks at least not one where USA comes out of on top. All this time China made new deals with other countries and won't need the US anymore for those needs (beef, soybeans)

In conclusion. The only way this can go forward is if America/trump embarrasses himself and picks up the phone to make a deal. And when that happens shyt will hit the fan because then China really showed that the US is a laughing stock with a retarded leader.
 

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We're fukked. People always talk about Trump or Biden's stimulus spending being the driver of 2021/2022 inflation but that ignores the fact that the global supply chain was fukked for over a year due to covid and a shipping lane blockage. When you cannot get goods into port it results in higher prices. And scarcity; remember how grocery shelves were looking in like...April 2020?

There are consequences to uncertainty. The US president is the most powerful person on earth not just because of military shyt. It's because his words can immediately impact domestic and global markets. Trump has been tanking the market for weeks with idiotic statements. He's also been pumping the market with blatant lies. The coming weeks are when that game ends and shyt starts hitting the fan.
 

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1/14
🇺 paleofuture.bsky.social
Gary Cohn says the impact of tariffs aren't going to really hit for another 2-4 weeks.

"The vast majority of small business toy stores cannot order toys today because they cannot afford the 145% tariff. [...] They're either going out of business or they're just going to wait and see what happens."
https://video.bsky.app/watch/did:pl...pggh3okx4q72t2ijhytyey37r5jdcme/playlist.m3u8

2/14
🇺 rakista.bsky.social
$100 widgets for our lab are now 2-3x the price.

Completely unsustainable.

3/14
🇺 acmegamesltd.bsky.social
He’s wrong they’re already hitting. I bought something April 12 because I knew the price was going to go up soon and it’s already gone up.

4/14
🇺 dalekchap.bsky.social
I read our import warehouses are down to roughly 65% of where they should be. There are only a two loaded container ships from China docking in the US over next few days.
Then THATS IT!! Nothing.
65% will be 0% by August.
It’s not just toys, folks, it’s components, packaging materials, manuals, etc.

5/14
🇺 megaforte84.bsky.social
And meanwhile customers either don't see it coming or are getting things while they still can (which looks like consumer confidence instead of 'shopping like it's the first week of March 2020 but you know exactly what's coming, and savings don't help if it's no longer for sale' lack of it).

6/14
🇺 mikeconte.com
Correct. Container shops are slow. But big.

7/14
🇺 ajduden.bsky.social
Think of all that beautiful, clean coal in stockings this year at Christmas! It's not just for "bad" kids anymore, it's made in the USA!

8/14
🇺 carljungfranz.bsky.social
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9/14
🇺 carljungfranz.bsky.social
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https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...-has-seattle-waiting-for-the-ships-to-come-in

10/14
🇺 carljungfranz.bsky.social
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Chinese Cargo Ship Arrivals Drop Sharply At 2 Of America’s Busiest Ports

11/14
🇺 carljungfranz.bsky.social
The Trump “reality show” is all about feeding lies to the MAGA faithful.

When the economic Great Depression 2.0 “second coming” arrives, the Trump administration reality show will be seen for what it is.

Even the MAGA cult camp followers will have a epiphany of their Trump messiah with clay feet.

12/14
🇺 dalekchap.bsky.social
What about:
Cheeto tells his flock that it was due to Canada stealing our money, then he attacks Canada with full maga and govt. support. Total distraction from his financial stuff.
Then he owns Canada.
Govt.Support - Streamlined Support for Government Agencies

13/14
🇺 ridgecaples.bsky.social
Great job America! I guess chaos and government dysfunction are what you wanted.

14/14
🇺 fredgrott.bsky.social
translation Mother's Day and Memorial Day....

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1/2
🇺 paleofuture.bsky.social
Gary Cohn says the impact of tariffs aren't going to really hit for another 2-4 weeks.

"The vast majority of small business toy stores cannot order toys today because they cannot afford the 145% tariff. [...] They're either going out of business or they're just going to wait and see what happens."
https://video.bsky.app/watch/did:pl...pggh3okx4q72t2ijhytyey37r5jdcme/playlist.m3u8

2/2
🇺 dalekchap.bsky.social
I read our import warehouses are down to roughly 65% of where they should be. There are only a two loaded container ships from China docking in the US over next few days.
Then THATS IT!! Nothing.
65% will be 0% by August.
It’s not just toys, folks, it’s components, packaging materials, manuals, etc.

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We're fukked. People always talk about Trump or Biden's stimulus spending being the driver of 2021/2022 inflation but that ignores the fact that the global supply chain was fukked for over a year due to covid and a shipping lane blockage. When you cannot get goods into port it results in higher prices. And scarcity; remember how grocery shelves were looking in like...April 2020?

There are consequences to uncertainty. The US president is the most powerful person on earth not just because of military shyt. It's because his words can immediately impact domestic and global markets. Trump has been tanking the market for weeks with idiotic statements. He's also been pumping the market with blatant lies. The coming weeks are when that game ends and shyt starts hitting the fan.
Just gotta stock up and get ready. This is going to be ridiculous
 
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