Breh on twitter is posting news clips from the 80's crack era

[BmoreGorilla]

Dope thread. I know a lot of us who were kids in the 80s and 90s glorify those years but that crack epidemic was some serious shyt that has had a permanent effect on our communities. It was crazy seeing strong adults succumb to it. But we really didn’t comprehend what was going on at that age. We laughed at crack heads. I had two uncles who got hooked on it and disappeared for a few years becuz of it. Or so we thought. The adults in the family just didn’t tell us. Then they popped back up looking like different people and we laughed at them. But it wasn’t funny when they were stealing shyt from us. It wasn’t funny when I was outside playing with my homeboy and we went in his house to get water and he found his pops ODed ok the bathroom floor. We were only in the 5th grade. shyt made us grow up quick

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I was born in 89..can some with vast knowledge in this topic explain this to me. Was the crime bill supported by black ppl mostly, and was the crime bill in fact a good thing?

The crime bill disproportionately affected black peoples. People started getting football numbers for crack possession. More time than for powder. Which is fukked up becuz a dime bag of rocks was less cocaine than a dime of powder

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Breh.
I keep tellin mfs, "why do you think there was no outrage about the crime bill back when it passed?"
Mfs just be talking and dont know facts and history.
People in the hood BEGGED politicians to do something about the drugs and crime.
Did they get it right? Not really. Because outsiders dont know the intricacies and subtleties.
Regardless, urban America was hurting very badly due to the sale and use of crack in the 80's
In the worst areas, ppl were prisoners in their own homes.

Just because a lot of us wanted a crime bill back then doesn't mean that the government should pass one that's no where near in our best interest overall...... that's all some people are saying..... the crime bill a lot of so called "black" leaders wanted passed is provisioned nothing like the one that actually did....

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I was born in 89..can some with vast knowledge in this topic explain this to me. Was the crime bill supported by black ppl mostly, and was the crime bill in fact a good thing?

Crime was outta hand. It had been on a steady increase since the 60's and the average sentence for murder was like 5 years. Gangs had better weapons and more members than the police. Whole communities were basically in a constant state of siege. Then, almost outta nowhere, drug addicts became dangerous due to the proliferation of Crack.​

There's MAD documentaries from a variety of sources on youtube. Watch a few of them and ask questions of your elders that experienced it. That's the best way to understand what happened.​

 

[Ricky Dunigan]

It's truly amazing we was bot totally eradicated by the crack era


I was a super young kid in Brooklyn close to east New York home of the 77th precinct (look it up)


I seen some things but was also shielded from alot


Wow looking at this and looking back



It's amazing how they want us to have compassion for the cacs on opioids

79th for me breh. Have a feeling our experiences were similar.

We straight up had a den of crackheads across the street from my house. Interesting enough, they did dirt outside the block almost always. Steve the crackhead did our electrical work. Felt bad cause dude was a nice , hardworking guy. So much potential. Never stole shyt while he did work. Just happened that him and his wife were fiends.

 

[ajnapoleon]

79th for me breh. Have a feeling our experiences were similar.

We straight up had a den of crackheads across the street from my house. Interesting enough, they did dirt outside the block almost always. Steve the crackhead did our electrical work. Felt bad cause dude was a nice , hardworking guy. So much potential. Never stole shyt while he did work. Just happened that him and his wife were fiends.

I'm thinking so too breh


Looking back as I said its amazing we all survived it

Looking at the places that crack was rampant


You would have never guessed what was going in 30 years ago

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Crack babies. This includes those that were affected by crack and not limited to those born from parents that were smokin' that shyt.

That crack baby thing is extremely overblown.... Like, the narrative behind what crack babies are supposed to be are absolutely false for the most part

 

[NoMayo15]

The 94 crime bill definitely didn't fix shyt....

That doesn't answer the question. Crime might have been on the decline, but it still was a huge problem that constituents wanted solved. By design, government moves slow, and I don't totally fault them for making the choices they did. Again, put yourself in their shoes and tell me you would have come up with the perfect fix to violent and drug related crime that would have passed in Congress.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

That crack baby thing is extremely overblown.... Like, the narrative behind what crack babies are supposed to be are absolutely false for the most part

They used that to push Legislation. There were several articles in the early 00's that pulled that bullshyt apart. Kids born to crack-addicted mothers were, for the most part, normal.​

 

[truth2you]

That doesn't answer the question. Crime might have been on the decline, but it still was a huge problem that constituents wanted solved. By design, government moves slow, and I don't totally fault them for making the choices they did. Again, put yourself in their shoes and tell me you would have come up with the perfect fix to violent and drug related crime that would have passed in Congress.

Use your brain black man

If that was true, why wait to design a bill that made democrats look good?

The shyt was fukked before the late 80's- early 90's, crack just helped so many make money. You had teenage millionaires, that was why they attacked so hard. You truly think they cared about black people?

When President Reagan visited the Bronx in 1980, he said it looked like a third world country, and crime was high, so why did he just make it worse by giving people more time for crack then cocaine? He knew crack effected blacks more then whites. We used to go uptown, cop from Dominicans, and cops may let you go if you have less then a couple of ounces of coke, but you did time with just a few vials of crack!

Black people stop falling for the lies they tell you, damn!

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

That doesn't answer the question. Crime might have been on the decline, but it still was a huge problem that constituents wanted solved. By design, government moves slow, and I don't totally fault them for making the choices they did. Again, put yourself in their shoes and tell me you would have come up with the perfect fix to violent and drug related crime that would have passed in Congress.

I don't necessarily disagree with you for the most part, but look at the bold... now crack may have sent crime over the edge, but lets be clear...... Crime was WAAYYY out of control at least a decade before the crack era got busy...... so why no extensive crime reform bill until the tail end of the crack era in the mid 90s?

That absurd peak was like 3 to 5 years....


I don't know what an absolute answer would have been... but what I do know is the more options you have to be productive and earn a respectable living legally, the more opt you will be to pursue those options..... and those provisions or reforms were left out of the 94 crime bill..... coupled with the unfair sentencing on top of that..... that's all I'm saying.....

 

[NoMayo15]

I don't necessarily disagree with you for the most part, but look at the bold... now crack may have sent crime over the edge, but lets be clear...... Crime was WAAYYY out of control at least a decade before the crack era got busy...... so why no extensive crime reform bill until the tail end of the crack era in the mid 90s?

That absurd peak was like 3 to 5 years....


I don't know what an absolute answer would have been... but what I do know is the more options you have to be productive and earn a respectable living legally, the more opt you will be to pursue those options..... and those provisions or reforms were left out of the 94 crime bill..... coupled with the unfair sentencing on top of that..... that's all I'm saying.....

Breh, do you not remember the Obama years, excluding '09 & '10, how it was nearly impossible for him to get his agenda done because the opposing party obstructed every policy he wanted? After Carter, you have a completely divided government until the midterm elections of '94-'95, and Bill Clinton is president. And while I can't say or know what was happening behind the scenes, we know Reagan vetoed at least one bill by Dems that focused on violent crime and drugs. The mid 90's was the first time the Democrats had a chance in a long time to push for domestic policy they wanted at least without Republican obstruction.... and it's reasonable to assume that there was some internal strife between centrist Democrats and progressive ones, just like there are now!

Again, when I hear people critique old legislation, I feel they don't really take into account the context of how this political machine works. I don't know which provisions you refer to were left out of the bill but would be interested to know more.

 

[Tim Dripcan]

Bump

 

[sosayeth]

The problem with the response to crime in black neighborhoods then (in the '80s and '90s) was not the method - the problem was the people tasked with coming up with the plan (white politicians) and the people implementing the response (white cops.)

 

[BXKingPin82]

Dope thread. I know a lot of us who were kids in the 80s and 90s glorify those years but that crack epidemic was some serious shyt that has had a permanent effect on our communities. It was crazy seeing strong adults succumb to it. But we really didn’t comprehend what was going on at that age. We laughed at crack heads. I had two uncles who got hooked on it and disappeared for a few years becuz of it. Or so we thought. The adults in the family just didn’t tell us. Then they popped back up looking like different people and we laughed at them. But it wasn’t funny when they were stealing shyt from us. It wasn’t funny when I was outside playing with my homeboy and we went in his house to get water and he found his pops ODed ok the bathroom floor. We were only in the 5th grade. shyt made us grow up quick

NOPE!

and youre right.
alotta people dont realize how serious that shyt was back then!
i grew up in the South BRONX.
WITHOUT CRACK that shyt was fukked up!




my Uncle was a STRAIGHT UP fiend!
We went though TVs, Nintendos, VHS tapes, VHS'. all that shyt cause this muthafukka!
hes clean now (ALLAH most merciful) but i dont think i can ever forgive that man.
as if our childhood wasnt fukked enough.

theres a scene in this movie New Jersey Drive. where son woke up at his mans crib and one of his homies relatives was going through his bag.
i hate that fukking scene just thinking about it.
cause i vivdly remember my Uncle going through our room just taking shyt and putting it in his lil Hefty bag like he was at a fukking yard sale or some shyt.
i dont know if i have PTSD or any of that mental shyt.
but its shyt like that thatll fukk with you forever.