Brehs, let's examine Bill Bellicheck "the genius" and his drafts 2008-2014

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Belichick hit the lottery with Brady, let's be real about that
But they've been a consistent contender for 14 straight years:manny:
How you gonna hate on an org that has been consistently competing for championship for that long especially if you're a Jets fan:scust:
Even when my Ravens won the championship, Ray, Suggs and those dudes said they wanted to go through the Patriots to validate their run:sas1:
Teams can't stay on top forever breh:mjcry:
 

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Thats a pretty generous list.

Chung? Vereen? Ridley? Dennard? Dobson? Ryan? Slater? Collins? Those are all pretty average picks.

The best two are gronk and hern and herns done and gronk i just dont think his body will hold up.

Mayo and mccourty are decent. Mccourtys worth gets exaggerated because of his rookie season. He struggled at corner after that.

Pretty marginal.


And really my point more so is that the media ball washes him so much.

Mayo & McCourty are just "decent"? FOH.

Mayo is a damn good player, there's a reason he's made multiple Pro Bowls. And yes McCourty did struggle at corner after his rookie year, but he hasn't played corner since the 1st half of the 2012 season. And he's been fantastic since the move to safety. Guy was all pro last year. McCourty is a top 5 free safety.

I'll agree that Belichick has outsmarted himself over the last few years but Mayo & McCourty are better than just "decent"
 

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Belichick hit the lottery with Brady, let's be real about that
But they've been a consistent contender for 14 straight years:manny:
How you gonna hate on an org that has been consistently competing for championship for that long especially if you're a Jets fan:scust:
Even when my Ravens won the championship, Ray, Suggs and those dudes said they wanted to go through the Patriots to validate their run:sas1:
Teams can't stay on top forever breh:mjcry:
Afc east sucks, they get preferrential treatment by refs and always seem to have cake schedules.



And they have brady one of the goat qbs.


I mean i still remember that 07 year. Team was purposely running up the score every week, media didnt say shyt. Let any other team do that though thdy be called classless and a disgrace.


Them losing that sb was karma.


Yeah. Im salty..:birdman:
 

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Mayo & McCourty are just "decent"? FOH.

Mayo is a damn good player, there's a reason he's made multiple Pro Bowls. And yes McCourty did struggle at corner after his rookie year, but he hasn't played corner since the 1st half of the 2012 season. And he's been fantastic since the move to safety. Guy was all pro last year. McCourty is a top 5 free safety.

I'll agree that Belichick has outsmarted himself over the last few years but Mayo & McCourty are better than just "decent"
Alright i was being a little disrespectful there :heh:

But ive never been big about mayo. Hes good but hes not great. To me anyway.

I do think jones could be great though.
 
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I think he needs to do less.....Being the GM and head coach is to much for him now.

Just be a great head coach and let someone else make the draft day decisions with your input.
 
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This thread ain't shyt unless you compare their 2008-2014 drafting with other teams

Exactly what I came to post.

Over the last few years a ton of people have been taking shots at the "genius" label he had attained, and rightfully so. But to take it further and shyt on his drafting, you're gonna have to compare him to his peers. I've yet to see anyone really do that.
 

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This thread ain't shyt unless you compare their 2008-2014 drafting with other teams


But those other teams arent being deepthroated every year by the media.

I mean remember when they signed a washed up albert haynesworth and a washed up ocho cinco? Media was talking about those like it was the signings of the century.

I mean, name another gm/coach getting called genius every year and we can compare the drafts.
 

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Exactly what I came to post.

Over the last few years a ton of people have been taking shots at the "genius" label he had attained, and rightfully so. But to take it further and shyt on his drafting, you're gonna have to compare him to his peers. I've yet to see anyone really do that.
Theres a reason brady is out there playing with a jets like offense :heh: his name is bill.

Trading mankins was dumb. I know he had struggles but damn he was the leader of the line. They look worse, playing magical chairs and shyt.
 

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But those other teams arent being deepthroated every year by the media.

I mean remember when they signed a washed up albert haynesworth and a washed up ocho cinco? Media was talking about those like it was the signings of the century.

I mean, name another gm/coach getting called genius every year and we can compare the drafts.

They both were signed to the minimum and were no risk. The Pats haven't hit on as many draft picks as they used to but very few GMs would have acquired so many productive players never having a top 10 pick (only trading up for Mayo). Now belichicks FA decisions have been terrible. Let's see the Jets drafts since 08.
 

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But those other teams arent being deepthroated every year by the media.

I mean remember when they signed a washed up albert haynesworth and a washed up ocho cinco? Media was talking about those like it was the signings of the century.

I mean, name another gm/coach getting called genius every year and we can compare the drafts.


Breh, as a Jets fan and most likely a guy living in NY, you should always listen to the media with a grain of salt:skip::sas2:
 

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Thats a pretty generous list.

Chung? Vereen? Ridley? Dennard? Dobson? Ryan? Slater? Collins? Those are all pretty average picks.

The best two are gronk and hern and herns done and gronk i just dont think his body will hold up.

Mayo and mccourty are decent. Mccourtys worth gets exaggerated because of his rookie season. He struggled at corner after that.

Pretty marginal.


And really my point more so is that the media ball washes him so much.

I agree about the media but hey, thats the consequence/perk of being a winning coach...they're gonna get slobbed. :manny:

I think the whole "genius" thing comes from him drafting Brady and guys like Edelman so low in the draft and generally making good use of the Pats low position in basically every draft. Don't agree with the label but there is some merit there.

One thing you can't front on tho, is that his 1st-2nd round picks are usually on point.
 
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They both were signed to the minimum and were no risk. The Pats haven't hit on as many draft picks as they used to but very few GMs would have acquired so many productive players never having a top 10 pick (only trading up for Mayo). Now belichicks FA decisions have been terrible. Let's see the Jets drafts since 08.
I dont wanna see the jets drafts :mjcry:


fukk itbill do it hold up. Its different bevause weve had different coaches and gns in that time span but fukk it hol up.
 
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