Brehs, teach me about disco...

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I'm soooooo glad Marley Marl deaded all that shyt.

Marley had nothing to do with the demise of disco. That was choreographed by heterosexual 'White' men in the late 1970's because disco music catered to minorities, women and homosexuals.
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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

My dude Chic has been sampled so many times.

I know ALL about Chic. Their albums were played a lot in my house when I was little......along with stuff like this.......



You may not recognize it, but it was sampled by one of the pioneer groups of the 90's......

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[The Bilingual Gringo]

Found a random album called "Disco Love" a few years back and it had this track on there. Beat drops at about :35, but that bassline and funk

 

[Ghost Like Swayze]

disco music is just If you can listen to this type of music and not want to I think it's safe to say you have no soul

 

[Easy-E]

The illest thing I'm learning about disco; it's just soul and funk music

 

[daze23]

you should peep the BBC documentary "Once Upon a Time in New York". it's a good documentary about the roots of hip-hop, disco, and punk-rock, and how they were connected

shyt's on youtube:

 

[SCORCH]

Disco, eh?

@Don Hollywood Herrera @penfield

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Hip-Hop was all about breaks, mayne.

Before folks had the equipment to make beats, you just found a break clean enough to loop.
Disco cuts were like, 7-8 minutes long so they had 2 or 3 parts in a song you could chop.

Exactly!!!....and being that Disco was the first to use 12 inch record singles..it made it excellent for early hip hop deejays to use as far as extended beats, scratching, mixing and blending for the breakdancers

that's why you had Break beats which brought about the term B-BOYS

people have to realize Disco had gotten really Elitist once the white gay crowd in downtown manhatten gotten hold of it courtesy of clubs like the LOFT and STUDIO 54

these artsy fartsy clubs wasn't trying to let no black kids from Harlem, the BX and Brooklyn enter their venues...

so they had no choice but to do it OUT IN THE PARK ...courtesy of mobile deejays...which worked well..cause NYC parks was popping and considering many of the early pioneers such as Herc and Flash were of Carribean Heritage...the Jamaican influence of soundsystems with clashing (battling) on the mic and the turntables along with the disco mixing is what gave birth to HIP HOP

but movies like Saturday Night Live will have you believing that WHITE DISCO CLUBS is where it originated at..which is a lie!!!....

it was simply extended obscure soul and funk records that went beyond the standard 4 minute radio mark that gave birth to disco...cause people wanted to dance more and longer......and deejays were in high demand cause NYC clubs found it less expensive than hiring a band

so you had black clubs such as Bentleys , Nells and Smalls paradise along with Larry Levan's Garage club that were disco havens which led to it being discovered by Black Radio first WBLS.......which was the home of Frankie Crocker the legendary voice of NYC whom gave Mr. Magic and Marley Marl their start

So this debunk the claims of the poster saying that MARLEY MARL deaded DISCO .... hell nah

if anything MARLEY helped keep it alive...I kow that cause I use to tape Mr. Magic and MARLEY MARL ON A REGULAR BASIS WHEN I LIVED IN nyc...AND Marley always blended disco breaks and tracks from artists like teena marie..james brown...and others with hip hop artists.......

in fact Marley Marl was so into vinyl and breaks he felt that the drum machine is what killed REAL HIP HOP cause it took away from the foundation of hip hop relying on vinyl breaks.....

disco breaks were so important to hip hop, cause like Jamaican dubs and riddems (instrumentals) they allowed the vocalist MC to express himself for long periods of time while keeping the folks dancing

keep in mind you had no RAP INDUSTRY per se in the 70's so they rapped over disco and funk braks mostly cause of the heavy percussion

here is a look at a KOOL HERC playlist featuring proto disco records basdically obscure soul, funk and jazz fusion tracks which also became the library for samples///

Proto Disco Classics

1. I'll Bake Me a Man - Barbara Acklin (Brunswick, 1973)
2. If You Love Me Like You Say You Love Me - Betty Wright (Alston, 1972)
3. Black Skin Blue Eyed Boys - Equals (Shout, 1972)
4. Rain - Dorothy Morrison (Elektra, 1971)
5. Fencewalk - Mandrill (Polydor, 1973)
6. Street Dance/Njia (Nija) Walk (Street walk) - The Fatback Band (Perception, 1973)
7. Sultana/Rain 2000 - Titanic (Epic, 1972/1973)
8. Dust Yourself Off and Try It Again - Beautiful Zion Choir (Myrrh, 1973)
9. You're the One - Little Sister (Stone Flower, 1970)
10. Music For Gong Gong - Osibisa (Decca, 1971)
11. I Got It - Gloria Spencer (Jay Walking, 1971)
12. Girl You Need a Change of Mind/Date With the Rain - Eddie Kendricks (Tamla, 1972)
13. You Sure Know How To Love Your Man - Willie Hutch (Motown, 1974)
14. Think (About It) - Lyn Collins (People, 1972)
15. I Like What I Like - Everyday People (Paramount, 1972)
16. Twenty-Five Miles/Running Back and Forth - Edwin Starr (Gordy, 1969)
17. Feel the Need in Me - Detroit Emeralds (Westbound, 1972)
18. Giving Up - Zulema (Sussex, 1973)
19. Doing it to Death - Fred Wesley & The J.B.'s (People, 1973)
20. Melting Pot - Boris Gardiner Happening (Dynamic, 1973)
21. Beggin' - Timebox (Deram, 1968)
22. Woman/Wild Safari - Barrabas (RCA, 1973)
23. The Bottle - Gil Scott-Heron (Strata-East, 1974)/Brother to Brother (Turbo, 1974)
24. I Can Understand It - The New Birth (RCA, 1973)/Valentinos (Atlantic, 1973)/Kokomo (Columbia, 1975)
25. Pursuit of the PimpMobile - Isaac Hayes (Enterprise, 1974)

 

[IllmaticDelta]

...i know. But, I'm reading this book (History of the Business of Hip Hop) and my mind is blown at how disco is the basis of Hip-Hop/Rap music.

And I'm hearing disco in some of the music I love.

School me, brehs.

I also need to research rock and roll.

I just wanna be more muscially literate

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The illest thing I'm learning about disco; it's just soul and funk music

This is true but it's soul/funk with a specific sound/beat.

 

[bouncy]

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so they had no choice but to do it OUT IN THE PARK ...courtesy of mobile deejays...which worked well..cause NYC parks was popping and considering many of the early pioneers such as Herc and Flash were of Carribean Heritage...the Jamaican influence of soundsystems with clashing (battling) on the mic and the turntables along with the disco mixing is what gave birth to HIP HOP

This isn't true. If you listen to the people who actually did it, they say they did it in the park because they wanted to have fun. And because of racism being deep in the bronx, they couldnt go to other places, so they just partied in the parks. The young people did. Older blacks did have clubs to go to, but you had to get dressed up. I'm talking about the people before herc, and flash. And the sound system thing still comes from disco. When herc was on combat jack he said himself that his system was based on American sound systems, because it didn't have all the bass Jamaican sound systems had. He said it was more clean. His words not mine. The people before herc all bragged about their systems being compared to the best, and that was "Richard Long". He was known for building the best disco sound system.

Herc didn't start hip hop as far as the sound systems, and other things, his claim to fame was he started using nothing but breaks at the jam, and that is when hip hop MUSIC was born. Flash was known for cutting quick, but he was also following older disco people. There was no rapping like we call it today, except for a couple like DJ Hollywood, and lovebug starski, and they were disco DJs, before herc. Everyone played a part, but its important to get the timeline right or a mix up of history will happen, and then stuff being added will happen.

As far as Richard Long's sound systems, I just learned that eldorado auto skooters where you can drive bumper cars in coney island, had his sound system! That's why I used to love going there

I didn't know why, but I just loved listening to the music in there.

 

[JohnB]

Disco help make modern electronic music from Hip Hop, Techno and House.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

This was a HUGE hit.......



Guess who sampled it?

Spoiler

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[Screwtape]

posting so i remember to read this properly later. good thread, ive been meaning to ask about it myself

 

[IllmaticDelta]