*Briahna Joy Gray* looking mad grifterish

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Wait, Bree Newsome and brihana joy gray aren’t the same person.

Bri isn’t a grifter YET but she’s a complete moron but I’m sure she’ll sellout like greenwald, Taibbi etc soon enough. I can completely understand why you’d think she’s a grifter tho

You had me super confused, but yeah most progressives stopped taking her seriously a min ago
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She's trash, but he's extremely different than Symone Sanders. Symone is lib/dem loyalist. She's no different than any other party machinery that you see on corporate media. She's just he female version of Bakari Sellers.

Brianna is the worst of the bernie or bust types. She's essentially a class reductionist that was leading the force the vote thing about medicare. I agree w her politics for the most part, but her execution and framing is just awful. She's also getting dangerously close to the JImmy Dore zone, but she actually has principles, so I dont think she'll cross that line.

Youre right about one thing. She is sexy.
Symone is also trash
I forgot what she said that rubbed me the wrong way

But the fact she went from Bernie to Biden shows she's a mercenary with no beliefs
 
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She's trash, but he's extremely different than Symone Sanders. Symone is lib/dem loyalist. She's no different than any other party machinery that you see on corporate media. She's just he female version of Bakari Sellers.

Brianna is the worst of the bernie or bust types. She's essentially a class reductionist that was leading the force the vote thing about medicare. I agree w her politics for the most part, but her execution and framing is just awful. She's also getting dangerously close to the JImmy Dore zone, but she actually has principles, so I dont think she'll cross that line.

Youre right about one thing. She is sexy.
I’m honestly embarrassed how attracted I am to Bri :mjlol::snoop:
 

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I lump her in with Kyle kulinsky’s school of well-meaning but woefully naive (possibly on purpose) lefties. That’s a notch above the Jimmy dore grifter class in my book. Both are unhelpful and sometimes harmful to the ideology they espouse, but I think the dore crew’s principles are purely decided by clicks and profit whereas bri and Kyle at least try to stick to principles but just wade way out of their depth with some topics and play themselves.
 

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I lump her in with Kyle kulinsky’s school of well-meaning but woefully naive (possibly on purpose) lefties. That’s a notch above the Jimmy dore grifter class in my book. Both are unhelpful and sometimes harmful to the ideology they espouse, but I think the dore crew’s principles are purely decided by clicks and profit whereas bri and Kyle at least try to stick to principles but just wade way out of their depth with some topics and play themselves.
I get where youre going w this. Kyle is legitimately dumb that sometimes stumbles onto the right take. I think Bri is pretty intelligent, but also too arrogant to understand how off the mark she is on some things.
 

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I lump her in with Kyle kulinsky’s school of well-meaning but woefully naive (possibly on purpose) lefties. That’s a notch above the Jimmy dore grifter class in my book. Both are unhelpful and sometimes harmful to the ideology they espouse, but I think the dore crew’s principles are purely decided by clicks and profit whereas bri and Kyle at least try to stick to principles but just wade way out of their depth with some topics and play themselves.
A big issue with progressive media is that these people have no connection with the working class, like Briahna.

I don't think most of these people are grifters tho. I think they believe everything they are saying.
 

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I watched the clip with the non Bree Newsome. I am not a fan of Brianna Grey Joy, but what exactly are you upset about in this clip?
A big issue with progressive media is that these people have no connection with the working class, like Briahna.

I don't think most of these people are grifters tho. I think they believe everything they are saying.

Spend 5 minutes with working class whites on a social topic and see you have to be an idiot to not see why they can't unite with Black people

That white lady has no point

Cool white dude at my job, but hes:mjpls: when talking about how DPS students have no respect for property when it comes to them breaking covid virtual computers

They dont have to say it, for you to get how they feel about Black people

And that's the average white working class white person

They feel no need to cover it up unlike the other classes of whites
 
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Spend 5 minutes with working class whites on a social topic and see you have to be am idiot to not see why they can't unite with Black people
You can spend 5 minutes with black working class people and realize they don't agree with you on social topics and it will be hard to unite them with other black people. This isn't saying much.
Cool white dude at my job, but hes:mjpls: when talking about how DPS students have no respect for property when it comes to them breaking covid virtual computers

They dont have to say it, for you to get how they feel about Black people

And that's the average white working class white person

They feel no need to cover it up unlike the other classes of whites
I think the issue is you don't rate class identity as anything. The problem with that thinking is you unite no one. The negros that are on MSNBC and CNN claiming to speak for the black community have no idea of the interests of black working class.

If you working class and poor in America, you want the same things, regardless of race, even down to policing.
 

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You can spend 5 minutes with black working class people and realize they don't agree with you on social topics and it will be hard to unite them with other black people. This isn't saying much.

I think the issue is you don't rate class identity as anything. The problem with that thinking is you unite no one. The negros that are on MSNBC and CNN claiming to speak for the black community have no idea of the interests of black working class.

If you working class and poor in America, you want the same things, regardless of race, even down to policing.
People on mainstream media don't speak for working class Black ppl, I agree

But whites aren't going to unite with working class Black ppl, because whiteness will trump all

Especially now

And you don't even know my view on social topics
 

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People on mainstream media don't speak for working class Black ppl, I agree

But whites aren't going to unite with working class Black ppl, because whiteness will trump all

Especially now

And you don't even know my view on social topics

The bolded is my point. Its not saying much and most of us have very different social topical beliefs.

But I bet you we will find more commonalities on saying "I want to visit the doctors and not pay an arm and a leg," "I want to earn more money at my job," "I want a good home to live," "I wish these utility bills weren't so high," "my boss is an a$$hole," and many other things that will materially benefit our lives.

We can't just write off people and think the world will get right by doing that. It doesn't work that way because none of us benefit.
 

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I get where youre going w this. Kyle is legitimately dumb that sometimes stumbles onto the right take. I think Bri is pretty intelligent, but also too arrogant to understand how off the mark she is on some things.

A big issue with progressive media is that these people have no connection with the working class, like Briahna.

I don't think most of these people are grifters tho. I think they believe everything they are saying.

I think all three of us are tapping into the same main thought which is that the types we're describing are detached. They're not having these conversations outside of pretty silo'ed channels and it ends up with them earnestly believing some pretty warped ish.

And then their inability to connect "radical" ideas with real-world experience gets conflated so that the radical ideas are dismissed as detached and unrealistic, when it's usually just the mechanism they're pushing...example: Medicare for All is a good idea, but Force the Vote seemed foolish and others used it to grift even though Bri really seemed sincere. That general strike twitch marathon a couple of weeks back is another example...some well-meaning folks and some grifters taking advantage of 'em.
 
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