Brian Kemp supports bill that would end need for gun carry permit (Georgia Brehs)

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Georgia brehs...

Governor-elect Brian Kemp said he supports "constitutional carry."

A new bill allowing Georgians to carry guns without permits has been filed for the upcoming session of the legislature.

HB2 would enact “Constitutional Carry,” a concept supported by Governor-elect Brian Kemp.

In Georgia, you can carry a concealed handgun, but it requires a background check and a carry permit. Brian Kemp is among the Georgians with a carry permit.

"I hunt, I shoot and I carry," Kemp said repeatedly on the stump during his campaign.

Kemp also supports eliminating the need for the carry permit for those otherwise legally qualified to own guns. It’s called “constitutional carry” among second amendment enthusiasts, who helped Kemp narrowly win the governorship.

"I’m just really thrilled that we actually have a governor that has gotten behind constitutional carry," said state Rep. Matt Gurtler (R-Tiger), who introduced the bill to eliminate the gun permit requirement.

"I don’t believe it’s radical at all. I think it’s conservative. It’s constitutional," Gurtler told 11Alive News. "In the constitution it says (the right to keep and bear arms) 'shall not be infringed.' We believe that’s a no-compromise statement."

Gurtler says the bill wouldn't eliminate the permit completely. Georgia would still offer permits so that gun owners can carry them in other states with permit reciprocity agreements.

The bill wouldn't change legal restrictions on who can carry a gun. Convicted felons, for example, still couldn’t possess weapons legally. But it would remove the permit requirement – and remove the background check that comes with a permit.

And it’s controversial. When 11Alive polled gun questions this spring, Georgians supported more gun restrictions, not less:

  • 72% supported raising from 18 to 21 the minimum age to own a handgun.
  • 51% supported a ban on assault rifles.
  • 84% supported keeping the permit requirement to carry a handgun.
Supporters of gun restrictions think Constitutional Carry runs counter to what Georgians actually want.

"The polling data, the constituencies, the voting does not support more guns, more days, more places for any purpose. That is not what the will of Georgia is," said state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver (D-Decatur).

Gurtler introduced the bill last year and the Republican leadership shelved it. Oliver predicts it will stay there.
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"I don’t believe it’s radical at all. I think it’s conservative. It’s constitutional," Gurtler told 11Alive News. "In the constitution it says (the right to keep and bear arms) 'shall not be infringed.' We believe that’s a no-compromise statement."

The bill wouldn't change legal restrictions on who can carry a gun.
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Right to bear arms is outdated it was made to combat Indians and British people.

All legal guns should be tracked and locked in armories and checked out for hunting purposes or incase of an invasion.
 
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I see no correlation between lax gun laws and gun related death...maybe I missed it though:feedme:




The states with the least amount of restrictions on gun ownership are not the states with the most gun violence... nor are they the states with the most police shootings(that honor goes to CA) or school shootings(AR). The anti gun crowd will surely rage though...
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Strap up nikkas :myman:
 
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Tony_Bromo said:
Arm yourselves brehs if it's that easy
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Large portions of the Black populace are barred from carrying.

If something goes down and your life is threatened and you start to pull, it vastly increases the chances that one of you gonna die.

And if you ain't the one who dies, 7 times out of 10 the legal outcome is gonna go poorly and ya be locked up anyway.



DEAD7 said:
I see no correlation between lax gun laws and gun related death...maybe I missed it though:feedme:
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I'm sure you're gonna say you worded that wrong, because there's a pretty large, obvious correlation between lax gun laws and gun related death.

Gun-Laws-vs-Gun-Deaths--A05.png


It's not a one-to-one perfect relationship, but the correlation is pretty obvious. Most of the reddest states in the first pictures are white or gray in the second picture, and the white states in the first picture are looking pretty red in the second picture.




DEAD7 said:
The states with the least amount of restrictions on gun ownership are not the states with the most.... school shootings(AR).
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Did you post "school shootings (AR)" as a mistake? Because Arkansas has some of the least restrictive gun laws in the country.





DEAD7 said:
The states with the least amount of restrictions on gun ownership are not the states with the most gun violence... nor are they the states with the most police shootings(that honor goes to CA)
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You did a dumb thing with the police shootings claim, California has the most just because it has by far the biggest population. California does have a lot of police shootings but scaled by population it barely makes the top 10. You know which states actually have the highest police shooting rates? In order:

New Mexico
Oklahoma
Arizona
Nevada
Wyoming
Montana
Alaska
California
West Virginia

Every single one of those states is white or gray on the "least restrictive gun laws" list except for California.



Also, the more guns in households in an area, the more police shooting deaths:

Variation in Rates of Fatal Police Shootings across US States: the Role of Firearm Availability

Variation in Rates of Fatal Police Shootings across US States: the Role of Firearm Availability. - PubMed - NCBI

"We find that rates of police shooting deaths are significantly and positively correlated with levels of household gun ownership, even after accounting for the other explanatory variables. The association is stronger for the shooting of armed (with a gun) rather than unarmed victims."


Fatal police shootings 40% more likely in states with higher gun ownership

The study, from researchers at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and Northeastern University found that people were 3.6 times more likely to be involved in fatal police shootings if they lived in the 10 states with the most guns — Alaska, Georgia, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and West Virginia — than if they lived in the five states with the least — Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York.
 
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DEAD7 said:
I see no correlation between lax gun laws and gun related death...maybe I missed it though:feedme:




The states with the least amount of restrictions on gun ownership are not the states with the most gun violence... nor are they the states with the most police shootings(that honor goes to CA) or school shootings(AR). The anti gun crowd will surely rage though...
:yeshrug:

Strap up nikkas :myman:
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The majority of guns used in Chicago for example originate from the surrounding states with lax gun laws.
 
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