Brittney Griner pleaded guilty in a Russian court to drugs charges that could see her face 10 years in prison; Update: SHE IS FREE

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knew it was trouble when US showed their hand and Russia said “not in public :scust:

I have hope a deal will be worked out soon enough though.

And I agree with whoever said “their country, their laws” is stupid ass logic. Nobody with a loved one in that position would be saying that, but that’s why it’s only for the stupid.
 

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Yeah people need to get that stupid logic out of here. Lots of laws are human rights violations
bro, nobody denying this.

Since ancient civilizations this has been the case. The thing is what are you willing to risk your freedom for? if WEED is one of them, you got serious issues.

I can understand something like tax evasion before weed.
 

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knew it was trouble when US showed their hand and Russia said “not in public :scust:

I have hope a deal will be worked out soon enough though.

And I agree with whoever said “their country, their laws” is stupid ass logic. Nobody with a loved one in that position would be saying that, but that’s why it’s only for the stupid.

That's when the emotions of people are speaking and not logic. Of course we would want our loved ones home. That does not remove them from their responsibility for their actions. So, based on the words of many, because we, myself included thinks their law is stupid,, can just do whatever we want, whenever we want. That's why many people from various countries look at Americans sideways, just thinking we run shyt in other countries.

Was this law on the Russian books when she entered the country? Yes
Did she bring her stuff into Russia under her own agency? Yes?
Did they rule in accordance with that law? Yes.

What else is there to discuss about it? All the hand ringing is for naught. She could have not taken that stuff into Russia. She could have taken the time to learn the laws to know what is permissible and what isn't. A lot of people seemingly want to resolve her of all responsibility here. If anyone were visiting Saudi Arabia, I am pretty sure they should not to not have a book that, in their eyes, not yours, that desecrates Islam or Muhammad, wear anything supporting Pride colors. Damn sure if I'm ever in China, I would not be trying to use Twitter there because it's banned there. Your way of life here does not transcend your boundaries.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?
 

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I honestly wish that Lebron and Jordan and some other HIGH PROFILE athletes go over there and try to have a sitdown with some of Russian leaders on her behalf. Im not saying they could get her out of there, but I do think celebrity status is a great option.

Ali would have done something like that. Athletes with these half ass support statements.. put a team together and try to go help her. stop waiting for these white men who created a beef with Russia to do the job.
 

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I honestly wish that Lebron and Jordan and some other HIGH PROFILE athletes go over there and try to have a sitdown with some of Russian leaders on her behalf. Im not saying they could get her out of there, but I do think celebrity status is a great option.

Ali would have done something like that. Athletes with these half ass support statements.. put a team together and try to go help her. stop waiting for these white men who created a beef with Russia to do the job.
They’d have to put a strap to my head to get me to go to Russia willingly. And I ain’t worth shyt

They’d tie that man Jordan up and use him as a damn bargaining chip
 

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They’d have to put a strap to my head to get me to go to Russia willingly. And I ain’t worth shyt

They’d tie that man Jordan up and use him as a damn bargaining chip
lol.. naw

they wouldnt do no shyt like that.
 

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That's when the emotions of people are speaking and not logic. Of course we would want our loved ones home. That does not remove them from their responsibility for their actions. So, based on the words of many, because we, myself included thinks their law is stupid,, can just do whatever we want, whenever we want. That's why many people from various countries look at Americans sideways, just thinking we run shyt in other countries.

Was this law on the Russian books when she entered the country? Yes
Did she bring her stuff into Russia under her own agency? Yes?
Did they rule in accordance with that law? Yes.

What else is there to discuss about it? All the hand ringing is for naught. She could have not taken that stuff into Russia. She could have taken the time to learn the laws to know what is permissible and what isn't. A lot of people seemingly want to resolve her of all responsibility here. If anyone were visiting Saudi Arabia, I am pretty sure they should not to not have a book that, in their eyes, not yours, that desecrates Islam or Muhammad, wear anything supporting Pride colors. Damn sure if I'm ever in China, I would not be trying to use Twitter there because it's banned there. Your way of life here does not transcend your boundaries.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

So in other words, you believe she is being rightfully detained?

I’m not arguing from the stance of “dumb law, she should do what she wants”. White Russians arent doing ten years in a penal colony for vape residue.

What is being done to her is so outrageous that, you needed to equate knowingly wearing the gay rainbow in Saudi Arabia to bringing a smidge of medical marijuana into Russia in order to justify her imprisonment.
 
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Brehs rightfully complain about pigs and the whole system here hemming black folks up on trumped up charges all the time. It's no different when the system is Russian as opposed to American.
 

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So in other words, you believe she is being rightfully detained?
Yes, I do. Based on their law. I don't agree with it but it is their law. Legal people see it the same way. They didn't give her a bullshyt charge because she was American. She was treated and charged like every other person. They haven't done anything foul here. Brittney is an a very unfortunate situation here but they didn't do anything out of the ordinary with her sentencing.


Brittney Griner's sentence is in line with Russia's strict drug penalties – but how long she serves will be decided outside the courtroom​


But as longtime scholar of Russian law, I can say the sentence announced in the Khimki District Court outside Moscow on Aug. 4, 2022, is more or less in line with what was expected. Moreover, I believe the sentence itself does little to change the equation when it comes to any quid pro quo with Russia regarding the potential exchange of detained nationals – any negotiation over her fate will now take place outside the courtroom.

The facts of the case​

Griner was detained at Sheremetyevo Airport on Feb. 17, 2022, after a sniffer dog detected vaping cartridges containing hashish oil in her luggage. The Russian Criminal procedure code provided that Griner, as a foreigner with no permanent residence in Russia, was ineligible for bail.


The length of time Griner spent in detention after her arrest – nearly six months – is not unusual in drug cases of this nature in Russia and will be counted toward her sentence. And aside from the heightened international interest, the trial seemingly played out in line with Russian criminal procedure.

Under the Russian criminal procedure code, there are no “pleas”; prosecutors have to prove guilt regardless of any confession. And the evidence was there in the shape of the vape cartridges seized by customs officials along with witness statements.

In court, Griner acknowledged guilt and apologized for what she described as a mistake when packing her luggage. Her lawyers said that Griner’s cannabis oil was for medical purposes, to deal with chronic pain resulting from injuries sustained during her playing career. Griner, meanwhile, testified that she had no intention to break the law.

But in line with other jurisdictions, including the U.S., ignorance of the laws is no defense in Russia.
 

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One of the few times I will ever agree with something you've said.

Laws are based on societal norms of that time. Not even 200 years ago, anyone with my complexion, lips and nose would be picking cotton and getting terrorized and whipped by massa, and it was LEGAL to do so.

Not even 20 years ago, nikkas was getting locked up for possession of weed, and in some places still are.

Brittney is being held as a political hostage. The Russians are hiding behind the law here.


Law is law

Regardless of what you think or say, all governments can HIDE behind it.

She Choose to go over and this is the result

I Choose to sell drugs and did time. I'm not crying about it
 

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Law is law

Regardless of what you think or say, all governments can HIDE behind it.

She Choose to go over and this is the result

I Choose to sell drugs and did time. I'm not crying about it
Comparing her traveling with vape pens to you selling drugs may be one of the most idiotic things i read in here, and I've read alot :dead:
 

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I honestly wish that Lebron and Jordan and some other HIGH PROFILE athletes go over there and try to have a sitdown with some of Russian leaders on her behalf. Im not saying they could get her out of there, but I do think celebrity status is a great option.

Ali would have done something like that. Athletes with these half ass support statements.. put a team together and try to go help her. stop waiting for these white men who created a beef with Russia to do the job.
That's a stupid ass idea no offense. The last thing the US needs is non-political people going and making matters worse.
 

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Making it worse? So, leave your fate ONLY to so called experienced white politicians? Oh ok...
Her fate is at the mercy of the Russian government :mjlol:

They could care less about what those celebrities have to say and offer as they’re looking at the bigger picture on their terms. Do you actually think a celebrity can successfully negotiate a prisoner swap and the potential ramifications of that?

Be realistic breh. This situation is out of their jurisdiction.
 
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