Brock Lesnars Strength then and now

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Seeing him get hit and :whoa: like a turtle on the floor . shyt was ridiculous I wonder how you learn to take a punch and not react like that. He didn't have weak chin just seemed scared or shocked everytime

He was probably never in an actual fight in his life until he started MMA. He's been a beast all his life, who the fukk would start shyt with a guy like him?
 

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if he started doing mma in his early 20s i wonder if he goes down as the goat

I always told people that if Ultimate Fighter 1 had happened in 1999 instead of 2005, or if he had went to Pride and trained in MMA from the start instead of going to WWE, he would've been the greatest heavyweight ever. EVER. As a matter of fact, he would've been the greatest super heavyweight ever if he had stayed in wrestling.

Never have I seen someone with such aptitude for combat sport, real or worked. Then consider his strength (Built from farm work, of course. Gym guys just don't seem to get strong like this ever...) and speed, and I don't know of any Mixed Martial Artist that could've beaten him. Not to mention any super heavy in wrestling that was a better worker than him short of Jumbo Tsuruta.

Even now, after he's had to completely change his diet and workout regimen post-diverticulitis, he's still one of the 5 or so strongest guys I've ever seen in a ring, and is probably 2 or 3 overall (The other 4 are, in order, Mark Henry, Big Show, Cena and Goldberg. Lesnar either slots equal to or below Big Show. Henry is a freak all in his own stratum). The guy is quite simply amazing.
 

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He could prolly still F5 show but as far as overhead belly's and german suplexes I doubt it. Show was in shape then after he got demoted to OVW. He is now a fukking 500lb slob
 

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How the fukk didnt spike dudley die after that? :merchant:

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wasnt he losing to small dudes when he was on his way out of mma? He never should have lost that match to super cena at extreme rules, that beating was godly
 

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I don't care what anyone says. Brock may have no promo skills. He may be an a$$hole in rl I don't care. I've always marked out for him every time because he was just a beast in the ring.
 

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wasnt he losing to small dudes when he was on his way out of mma? He never should have lost that match to super cena at extreme rules, that beating was godly

It was fine until Cena no sold it with a post-match promo :why:
 

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He's no Mark Henry in terms of brute force/strength but in straight functional strength I dunno if I've ever seen anything more humbling than watching Brock workout in person. shyt was scary


Damn an angry Brock vs Angry Mean Mark would be dope. They could just not get along and that be that, no reason needed to feud. Just do it.




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Man it's a shame what happened to the Deathclutch team. MMA really needs a lot more HWs. I know you got to roll with Brock sometimes (I'm sorry :-( ) but do you still keep in touch with a lot of the heads from that team? I heard Pat Barry said a lot of cats like Madsen retired and moved on with their lives...
 

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He's no Mark Henry in terms of brute force/strength but in straight functional strength I dunno if I've ever seen anything more humbling than watching Brock workout in person. shyt was scary


Damn an angry Brock vs Angry Mean Mark would be dope. They could just not get along and that be that, no reason needed to feud. Just do it.




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Hold up, you got to work out / roll with Brock?

Wow. Please, do tell. I'm interested.
 
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Man it's a shame what happened to the Deathclutch team. MMA really needs a lot more HWs. I know you got to roll with Brock sometimes (I'm sorry :-( ) but do you still keep in touch with a lot of the heads from that team? I heard Pat Barry said a lot of cats like Madsen retired and moved on with their lives...

Yeah the gym pretty much ceased to exist when Brock retired. Pat Barry tried keeping it going but ultimately he even had to start moving around gym wise. I'm not in contact with really any of them from Clutch anymore. Finally started getting back into it at the Academy again over the summer now that I'm 100%.



Hold up, you got to work out / roll with Brock?

Wow. Please, do tell. I'm interested.



I was training at Minnesota martial Arts academy at the time he started seriously training seriously for mma. They liked throwing heavyweights at him who were decent at jits. I didn't volunteer to help out ill say that much. I got volunteered :laugh: tore my ACL (not with him) and was out of any kind of rolling for a long while but I'd go and watch because it was cool to see cats getting after it.

I'm a "big guy" and decent-ish jits wise but I remember telling folks if nothing else Brock would NEVER get submitted on any part of his upper body, it wasnt possible, especially before he started getting sick. Dude would yank his way out of full sunk in armbars and chokes, straight brute force no technique, no proper escape, just pick your ass up or pull away easily. I wish he'd have trained more getting hit and reacting, he had the people around for it, rather than so much on submission defense because his power woulda generally kept him out of most subs.


Didn't see him putting up unreal weights much, just watching him do reps with your "max" was humbling as fukk because you knew it wasn't near his. Front squatting 225 like it was slight work. Yea MMA HW's are lucky dude didn't go straight to training/ the amateurs etc from college. They'd have been food for real. Brock is actually a nice guy, just not when he's training/nearing a fight. He's got a dry sense of humor





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Yeah the gym pretty much ceased to exist when Brock retired. Pat Barry tried keeping it going but ultimately he even had to start moving around gym wise. I'm not in contact with really any of them from Clutch anymore. Finally started getting back into it at the Academy again over the summer now that I'm 100%.







I was training at Minnesota martial Arts academy at the time he started seriously training seriously for mma. They liked throwing heavyweights at him who were decent at jits. I didn't volunteer to help out ill say that much. I got volunteered :laugh: tore my ACL (not with him) and was out of any kind of rolling for a long while but I'd go and watch because it was cool to see cats getting after it.

I'm a "big guy" and decent-ish jits wise but I remember telling folks if nothing else Brock would NEVER get submitted on any part of his upper body, it wasnt possible, especially before he started getting sick. Dude would yank his way out of full sunk in armbars and chokes, straight brute force no technique, no proper escape, just pick your ass up or pull away easily. I wish he'd have trained more getting hit and reacting, he had the people around for it, rather than so much on submission defense because his power woulda generally kept him out of most subs.


Didn't see him putting up unreal weights much, just watching him do reps with your "max" was humbling as fukk because you knew it wasn't near his. Front squatting 225 like it was slight work. Yea MMA HW's are lucky dude didn't go straight to training/ the amateurs etc from college. They'd have been food for real. Brock is actually a nice guy, just not when he's training/nearing a fight. He's got a dry sense of humor





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Really cool experience man. Seemed like there was some big monsters in that gym. Cole Konrad was there too, wasn't he?

I think Brock's last three fights made people forget about the things he *was* good at. He got into trouble in the stand up, but the way he dissected Frank Mir on the ground in their second fight after only 4 pro fights was unreal, since Frank's BJJ is obviously no joke. Even in a zombie state, he broke Nog's arm.

I think even after MMA, if Brock would've competed in ADCC, he could of made some real noise. Just a rare combination of a brute who actually seemed to develop some pretty good technique to go with it.
 
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Really cool experience man. Seemed like there was some big monsters in that gym. Cole Konrad was there too, wasn't he?

I think Brock's last three fights made people forget about the things he *was* good at. He got into trouble in the stand up, but the way he dissected Frank Mir on the ground in their second fight after only 4 pro fights was unreal, since Frank's BJJ is obviously no joke. Even in a zombie state, he broke Nog's arm.

I think even after MMA, if Brock would've competed in ADCC, he could of made some real noise. Just a rare combination of a brute who actually seemed to develop some pretty good technique to go with it.



Yep. Cole was there too. Straight up monsters man.

He systematically snuffed Mir on the ground, even crazier when you consider he was getting quite ill by the time they fought. Brock really doesn't get the credit he deserves for what he did. Carwin was proof he can take a beating, Cain was just a bad style matchup and Overeem got ahold of him when he was pretty much a shell

Healthy I do think Brock woulda gotten to Reem first, put him on his back and kept him there like he did Herring.

I agree on ADCC, he'd have been interesting. just seemed like he was ready to be done with combat sports since he's been basically at it since childhood.




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Yeah, Brock vs Reem was really disheartening to watch. Watching it live, I kept wondering why it seemed like he was phoning it in and fighting so timid. Then the retirement speech came and I knew why. Two bouts of diverticulitis is going to take a huge toll mentally and change your priorities.

He did have way too many haters who were blinded to any talent he did have. That's the price you pay for playing the heel though... which certainly helped his bank account quite a bit.
 
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