A healthy or unhealthy Atlanta is elite? An unhealthy Chicago is elite?
Bron asked how to stop curry "Same way you stop me... you cant"
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Chicago had won 50 games and was healthier than they'd been all season - Rose was peaking. Cleveland, on the other hand, had no Love, no Smith for two games, and Shump and Irving were limping.
Atlanta had won 60 games and dominated West playoff teams 13-3, and they were still one of the healthiest teams in the playoffs when the Cavs swept them off their own home court. Cleveland didn't even have Love or really Irving for those games either.
Yes, Chicago/Atlanta were elite teams this year.
And yes, Lebron has not been stopped in the playoffs so far in 2015, even with his poor outside shooting.
wasn't fair how good The Spurs were fukking shooting that seriesLebron averaged 28 in the finals last year, which is, ironically, roughly the same average number of points they lost each game by.
Btw, when you're team is losing by 30, 28 ppg is either garbage time and/or ineffective buckets. If Kobe put up 30 in a finals series and lost im sure his average would be ignored or frowned upon.
yes I'm sure Lebron could have just pressed start on the controller and edit his team mate sliders and took the player lock option off
The Heat bailed on him, almost every possession was stagnant and they ended up giving Lebron the ball at the top of the key basically saying
wasn't fair how good The Spurs were fukking shooting that series
Parker: 18ppg on 48%, 42% from three
Kawhi: 18ppg on 61%, 58% from three
Duncan: 16ppg on 57% shooting
Ginobli: 15ppg on 50% shooting, 42% from three
Patty: 10ppg on 54% shooting, 57% from three
Danny Green: 9ppg on 53% shooting, 45% from three
Splitter: 6ppg on 71% shooting
Belineli: 5ppg on 47% shooting, 44% from three
team: 106ppg on 53% shooting, 47% from three
Holy fukking shyt.
Only guy who couldn't hit a bucket that series was Diaw.
The Heat bailed on him, almost every possession was stagnant and they ended up giving Lebron the ball at the top of the key basically saying
Lebron: 28ppg on 57% shooting, 52% from three
Miami not named Lebron: 63ppg on 44% shooting, 36% from three
Damn, entire team only had 15 assists/game, 4.0 for Lebron and no one else over 2.8.
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A healthy Atlanta at the end of the day massacred the West
They were never 100% this off-season so it is what it is
Thanks...I now know to ignore anything basketball you ever say. Clearly you are not a fan!
I am fan, ask Kidd
I have never understood the Lebron hate. The majority of you are a bunch of Kobe stans. You root for a guy who fukked/raped a random hotel worker in the ass with no condom and snitched on his teammates lol 
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http://www.nba.com/2015/news/05/29/lebron-james-on-stephen-curry-cant-stop-him.ap/
Bron talking that shyt while complementing his enemy
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Lebron: Same way you stop me....
You can't
Game 1 He scored 25points before he left the game with cramps. They were only down 2points when he left the game. They ended losing by 15 without him.
Game 2 He scored 35 in a W
Game 3 Spurs begin the game hitting 19/21 shots. Lebron scored 16 of the heats first 20points. He scores 16points of his 22points in the first half while the Spurs shoot 77% in the first half
Game 4 He scored 15 of his 28points in the 3Q. I wouldn't call trying to make a comeback, garbage time scoring.
Game 5 He scored 16points in the first Quarter and 21 of his 31points in the first half.
Honestly Kwahi scored more of his points in garbage time than Bron.
http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400559376
http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400559376
http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400559377
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I have never understood the Lebron hate. The majority of you are a bunch of Kobe stans. You root for a guy who fukked/raped a random hotel worker in the ass with no condom and snitched on his teammates lol
Lebron was top-5 in the league in scoring efficiency from the post every season since 2011. He was #1 in the league by 2013.
The only thing you got right was that he'd get exhausted - that stuff is hard to do exclusively...but if you single-covered him for half the game like you say, the damage he'd do would already be enough to screw you
Not sure the first sentence is true. It was 2013 when LBJ really became a consistent, dominant force in the post but prior to that he wasn't top five. Guys like Durant & Melo were more productive believe it or not
This season he also hasn't been near the top 5 in efficiency
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yea but in the playoffs, his nerves kick in. More is on the line. The lights are brighter, and players play better defense too.
The game is mental. All perimeter nba players probably shoot like 90% when theyre relaxed and theres no pressure like when in practice. Not saying Lebron isnt a good shooter, hes just not great or reliable. Thats his weakness, if anything. If he had a "pure" or "automatic" shot then he wouldn't be struggling like he is now.
This site shows that he was #4 in 2011, #5 in 2012, #4 in 2013, and #1 in 2014.
This story mentions Lebron already becoming the #1 guy in the post back in the first half of 2011-2012.
This site shows Lebron as top-5 in playoff postup PPP in 2015 among guys with at least 25 postup points, and #3 in FG% among guys who have made at least 10 buckets from the post. Blake, Gasol, and Randolph are the only players who hit more postup FGs in the playoffs than Lebron.
He did drop off in the regular season this year though.
His nerves kick in or players play better defense?
Until this recent slump, his career 3pt% was 34%....and his career playoff 3pt% was 34%.
Career 16+ jumper% is 39%....and career playoff 16+ jumper% was 38%
So yeah, your narrative is wrong there too.
His first huge outside-shooting game I remember was Game 5 of the ECF in 2007...scored the last 25 points of the 4th and overtime in a huge playoff game, and a lot of those shots were long jumpers.
Or the entire ECF against Orlando, including that deep game-winning three. Shot an incredible 49% on 16+ jumpers that playoffs.
Or Game 6 and Game 7 in the Finals against San Antonio in 2013.
Or going 52% on threes in the Finals against San Anotino in 2014....41% for the whole playoffs.
Or even in the current streak, hitting the game-winning jumper against Chicago and hitting the huge three to take the lead in overtime with 36 seconds left against Atlanta..
"nerves" don't appear to be the problem.
So Kobe doesn't have a pure or "automatic" shot since he went 1-35 over 15 games? No one with a "pure" shot ever has a slump for several weeks?
I have data that contradicts that first link below, him ranking that highly in the 2013 season shouldn't be accurate and I have my doubts about the previous. If a defender was able to take away his initial move and he wasn't able to overpower them with brute force he lacked the counters to beat people 1on1 with consistency. Actually meant 2014 was the season where he assumed his dominance in the post, here's a spreadsheet of the post up leaders in 2013
Second link seems to describe his play over the first nine games of the season. I don't think he sustained that, was a synergy subscriber with access for players ppp in the post & didn't notice LBJ becoming one of the games top 5 over the course of an entire season until '14 where he was nothing short of absurd. That was the season where I thought to myself is there any limit to how much LBJ can grow because his post skill was night and day from the previous year. He'd gone from above average to undeniably elite.
Third link while it makes LBJ look elite based on those filters, he actually ranks only in the 63rd percentile scoring on just 44% of his post up attempts and there's a huge distance between he and the four in front of him. His raw FG% is fine but the thing that's killing him is turnovers (18.5% TO rate), he's been really sloppy with the basketball in the post mainly in that Bulls series before he started post fading Jimmy Butler to death.
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