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The Dankster said:
That lineup would have been so dope if Wade/Bosh were healthy. But Wade was already looking like he was on a pretty serious decline, and Lebron couldn't have had any idea that Miami would land Dragic and Whiteside after they had FOUR YEARS and still hadn't done what was necessary to get a point guard or center on that team.
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Pat upgraded the roster Evey year LeBron was down in Miami, except for year 4. Surround LeBron with shooters and versatile defenders and two all stars. Pat and the organization hadnt done LeBron wrong in the 4yrs since he's been in Miami. There was no indication that Pat wouldn't have upgraded the roster. The McRoberts thing was because Pat wasn't getting concise signs in what LeBrons next move was gonna be. And to be fair, of the two finals losses Miami had in the 4yr stretch, at least one of them was LeBron's own doing(2011) as opposed to virtually all of his finals losses in Cleveland being due to Cleveland's rosters not suiting all of LeBron's needs.
 
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Pat upgraded the roster Evey year LeBron was down in Miami, except for year 4. Surround LeBron with shooters and versatile defenders and two all stars. Pat and the organization hadnt done LeBron wrong in the 4yrs since he's been in Miami. There was no indication that Pat wouldn't have upgraded the roster.
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The "surround Lebron with shooters and versatile defenders" roster was literally ONE year, 2013.

In 2011 the Heat had almost no shooters and started a PG who couldn't shoot OR play defense.
In 2012 the Heat brought Battier in, which was huge, but they still had unreliable shooting at both guard positions and had no clue what they were doing at center.
In 2013 the Heat added Ray and Birdman and finally had a bench that could shoot and defend, though it was one of the oldest in the league. Moving Bosh to center finally fixed that issue though the Bosh/Battier frontcourt could sometimes lead to some rebounding issues.
In 2014 it was like the whole team got :flabbynsick: at the same time, with Ray, Rashard, Birdman, Battier, Miller, JJ, Haslem, and Wade ALL looking aged at 33-38 years old or battling major injuries.
And the solution by the front office was...Greg Oden and Michael Beasley. :lolbron:

They regressed so much that there was one Finals game where they STARTED 38yo Ray and 34yo Rashard at the same time. :mjlol:


What do you think at that point if you're Lebron? In 4 years the team hasn't added a single decent point guard, their best center acquisition was a 35yo Birdman that nobody else wanted, Wade is only playing 50 games and looking like his career is well onto the downhill, and half the team is in their mid-to-late 30s.

Landing a gem like Whiteside was unpredictable luck, and it would have been offset by Bosh's issues anyway. Landing Dragic wouldn't have happened if Lebron hadn't left. In what way could he really have expected the team to get better, when they had just spent the entire summer of 2013 and 2013-14 season looking incapable of making a helpful move?
 
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That squad was done. He needed to rebuild his rep and win one for the land. He needs to go to NO, SA, HOU, or OKC.

Wade was about to be in a wheelchair if Miami makes one more Finals run, Bosh had the clots, and their vets were all about to retire and did. Bron made the best decision. If Bosh was fully healthy, Bron would still be in Miami.
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trash ass city of Cleveland better ration that 2016 chip until the end of time like the Cubs are gonna have to do with theirs because ITS OVER. and those fukkers better not even try and win game 4 because it's pointless. They better body themselves so we can be done with this predictable ass NBA season and focus on the Yankees/Astros/Red Sox swag out this summer and then the racist ass NFL in the early fall and not to mention the World Cup next week.
 
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That squad was done. He needed to rebuild his rep and win one for the land. He needs to go to NO, SA, HOU, or OKC.

Wade was about to be in a wheelchair if Miami makes one more Finals run, Bosh had the clots, and their vets were all about to retire and did. Bron made the best decision. If Bosh was fully healthy, Bron would still be in Miami.
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:gucci: It is literally impossible for him to go to any of those teams, salary cap wise.
 
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The "surround Lebron with shooters and versatile defenders" roster was literally ONE year, 2013.

In 2011 the Heat had almost no shooters and started a PG who couldn't shoot OR play defense.
In 2012 the Heat brought Battier in, which was huge, but they still had unreliable shooting at both guard positions and had no clue what they were doing at center.
In 2013 the Heat added Ray and Birdman and finally had a bench that could shoot and defend, though it was one of the oldest in the league. Moving Bosh to center finally fixed that issue though the Bosh/Battier frontcourt could sometimes lead to some rebounding issues.
In 2014 it was like the whole team got :flabbynsick: at the same time, with Ray, Rashard, Birdman, Battier, Miller, JJ, Haslem, and Wade ALL looking aged at 33-38 years old or battling major injuries.
And the solution by the front office was...Greg Oden and Michael Beasley. :lolbron:

They regressed so much that there was one Finals game where they STARTED 38yo Ray and 34yo Rashard at the same time. :mjlol:


What do you think at that point if you're Lebron? In 4 years the team hasn't added a single decent point guard, their best center acquisition was a 35yo Birdman that nobody else wanted, Wade is only playing 50 games and looking like his career is well onto the downhill, and half the team is in their mid-to-late 30s.

Landing a gem like Whiteside was unpredictable luck, and it would have been offset by Bosh's issues anyway. Landing Dragic wouldn't have happened if Lebron hadn't left. In what way could he really have expected the team to get better, when they had just spent the entire summer of 2013 and 2013-14 season looking incapable of making a helpful move?
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Mike Miller was also on that 2012 team and he shot lights out in game 5 against OKC. Chalmers also developed into a solid 3 point shooter and defender at the point. That 2012 team was solid, and that 2013 team was probably the best supporting cast he's had in his career. They added what was considered at the time to he the best 3 point shooter in NBA history just so he could spread the floor and shoot open 3's. All those heat teams save for 2011 were constructed towards LeBron's game. And even in 2011, the deficiencies Miami had were offset by having a prime Wade and Bosh going off from series to series. That 2011 Heat team only lost 3 games on their way to the finals. At that point they already spent money on getting the 3 of them together and then added more shooting and defensive depth to a team with 3 all stars. By 2014, Andy Elisburg and the heat staff did about as well as anyone else could've in surrounding a superstar with what he wanted. We speak of Greg Oden as Miami wasn't also actively going after Pau and as if Pau wasn't considering Miami as a potential destination. Hell, if we wanna talk about whisperings, remember it was rumored Miami would even try to go after Melo.

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Bron made the best decision going back to Cleveland. It all worked out in the end, but those Miami were constructed about as best as one could construct a LeBron-led team..

LeBron just didn't trust the process.

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But make no mistake, LeBron won in the end, but it wasn't because of Miami's deficiencies as an organization nor was it due to them not doing enough.

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