Buddens is the best lyrical emcee out in present time

[Billy Ocean]

but real nikkas care about a 40+ year old inspectah deck who hasnt released any noteable verse in almost 20 years

Yep. N!ggas don't give a fvck about what either Deck or Budden are doing on the music side but at least they know and respect Deck's role in hip hop history. Also, they rightfully think Budden is a clown. Just dap me, pos rep me and be on your way, breh. You know I'm right

 

[Silver Surfer]

dude gonna proof reading his tweets now...laffL

 

[The Dust King]

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your old ass is still in every budden thread just like you was on


brush your teeth and take your meds first gramps before posting on here

and stack bundles would be the face of the trash nyc rap scene if he was alive you cant even dispute that.

don't believe everything you read breh. I ain't 40 yrs old and even if I was that ain't old.

you were one of the most salty cats on sohh cuz I single handedly would turn a stan party into a observational booth

I never post jokes in Budden threads. If I do come into a Budden thread, I just state facts: Dude been overrated. He is a "skilled" rapper but he has not accomplished ANYTHING that would place him as some hip hop great. He has NO CLASSIC ALBUMS (just a couple dope mixtapes under his belt), a few average - below average albums and he usually has the least memorable verse on tracks he has with his group. And he NEVER definitively beat ANY of the rappers he prods into a rap battle. What makes him "the best lyricist"? or "the best MC" like alot of Budden stans like to claim? I know ya'll connected with him heavy during the mid 00's with his emo, depression raps but I think it's about time ya'll snap back into reality.

back in 2002 i heard joe on stretch n he rhymed over verbal intercourse. verse was ass and that was my first sign of how not hip-hop he is. nikka is a fraud.

Breh, being a "skilled" rapper is not some type of rare commodity. There's millions of skilled rappers out there. What makes Budden better than say...a Pharaoh Monche?

And "real n!ggas" don't give a fvck about Budden. Most "real" cats think he's a cornball, don't even like the dude and don't fvck with his music.

I kno someone who told me a story bout they mans (hood cat) bein a real big buttons fan then bumpin into homey in a strip club and the ngga was dumb shook when homey approached him to give props, smh.

ngga was obviously fearing for his life

At the end of the day, being a skilled emcee is all that matters.

What I love about Pharaoh Monch, isn't the same thing I love about Joe's skill. It's okay to like more than one artist for different reasons breh.

It's okay to have your own opinion too.

Truth is, cats say he's corny for his, off the mic antics. Not his lyrics. I'm into it for the lyrics, not these artist personal lives.

...But that's just me.

joe is known for his personal lyrics most of all.

depressed, drug addicted, lonely, disfunctional relationship, immature behavior.

because he has five songs where he speaks about his baby momma issues don't make him a graduate of the top flight academy of MCs

I never have to refer to any personal aspect of him to detract from his supposed skillset. my ammo originates from his music , stint on hot97s morning show and his interviews

its cool if people want to call him a lyricist but he is a joke. that isn't an opinion, that's a fact.

if you disrespect legends (wu-tang,melle mel, big L etc.) your a joke.

I will not lambast people for relating to joe, but I will for championing him aloud.

some things should be unsaid and kept to yallselves.

 

[Billy Ocean]

I kno someone who told me a story bout they mans (hood cat) bein a real big buttons fan then bumpin into homey in a strip club and the ngga was dumb shook when homey approached him to give props, smh.

ngga was obviously fearing for his life

Guess Jump Off Budden ain't wanna jump off at that time

 

[No1]

Nas is the best lyricist

His music isn't good anymore to me, but he's still the best lyricist

Define lyricist. I always tell people to say this because at one point people like Lupe and others have been called the best and none of them rap like Nas. Like when people called Budden the best around like 05-06, I knew why. But no really raps like Nas so I don't know what we're comparing. That used to be my justification when stanning Nas in middle school "no one raps like this" and of course his content.

 

[Truality]

Lyrically Joe Budden is extremely dope but honestly he's not even the best lyricist in his group now. I give that to Ortiz

i disagree i think ortiz is the worst

especially when he does that fast flow

LOL

gay ass voice

corny as fukk

Ortiz solo stuff is good but with slaughterhouse he's corny

 

[Truality]

no buddens from escape route and mm4 and after lyrically is the best

his flow is good and his delivery is great

clean your ears

also, inspektah deck sucks now too, just like nas

his verse on the new wu tracks wu block and the czarface are weak as fukk

lame

 

[FreshAIG]

Define lyricist. I always tell people to say this because at one point people like Lupe and others have been called the best and none of them rap like Nas. Like when people called Budden the best around like 05-06, I knew why. But no really raps like Nas so I don't know what we're comparing. That used to be my justification when stanning Nas in middle school "no one raps like this" and of course his content.

To me it's the ability to convey yourself in a way that is creative and technically superior. Nas isn't great with punchlines but he's great with compound rhyming, rhyme patterns, syllable style but he actually says something with it. It's not just one of these rappers like Apathy that just rhyme for the sake of rhyming. Nas actually paints a vivid description with his rhymes while still being able to display a high skill level of rhyming proficiency. For example, Pac was just as descriptive as Nas and can make you feel what he's saying but he wasn't nearly as skillful when he did it, his was very straight forward and basic.

 

[SubLyminalz]

Yep. N!ggas don't give a fvck about what either Deck or Budden are doing on the music side but at least they know and respect Deck's role in hip hop history. Also, they rightfully think Budden is a clown. Just dap me, pos rep me and be on your way, breh. You know I'm right

naw breh i just turned 26 a few weeks ago and absolutly nobody in my age bracket cares about nobody else in the wu outside of rae ghost and meth.

now older heads i can see having this argument, i was 8-9 years old when wu tang forever dropped which was one of the biggest album releases in the history of hip hop, deck isnt really known for anything memorable since that album while rae and ghost has released classic albums and are still killing verses currently, u cant put him on the same level as them nikkas breh.

 

[Billy Ocean]

naw breh i just turned 26 a few weeks ago and absolutly nobody in my age bracket cares about nobody else in the wu outside of rae ghost and meth.

now older heads i can see having this argument, i was 8-9 years old when wu tang forever dropped which was one of the biggest album releases in the history of hip hop, deck isnt really known for anything memorable since that album while rae and ghost has released classic albums and are still killing verses currently, u cant put him on the same level as them nikkas breh.

I'm 30. Mostly everyone I have significant dialogue with are in the age range of 24-35. Don't NOBODY give a fvck about Joe Budden. None of them n!ggas. You keep bringing up how no young cats care about Wu. So fvcking what. Bet they all know Wu legends tho. Young n!ggas don't give a fvck about Budden AND know he's not some legend. Plus they know he's a clown. What point you trying to make? Every post you got just saying..."Ohhh the Wu are old"...."Ohhh young n!ggas don't bump Wu music". No sh!t

 

[The Ruler 09]

Inspectah Deck is dope and a legend.

 

[SubLyminalz]

I'm 30. Mostly everyone I have significant dialogue with are in the age range of 24-35. Don't NOBODY give a fvck about Joe Budden. None of them n!ggas. You keep bringing up how no young cats care about Wu. So fvcking what. Bet they all know Wu legends tho. Young n!ggas don't give a fvck about Budden AND know he's not some legend. Plus they know he's a clown. What point you trying to make? Every post you got just saying..hh the Wu are old"...."Ohhh young n!ggas don't bump Wu music". No sh!t

while i agree about budden that has nothing to do with deck, budden is on one of the highest rated reality shows among black people in the country not to mention his stupid ass twitter antics so he is pretty well known based on those 2 examples, he isnt really known for his music that much but that show has gotten him a few fans, i know a few hoes who like his music now even though he is at this point he is still relavent on social media and off of lahh.

I'm not a budden Stan at all hell I clown on him like anybody else does but that doesn't take away from the fact he dropped some very dope which some IMO was classic material from 05-09.

deck on the other hand as far as relavency goes

thats your opinion if he is a goat emcee canidate but quit trying to make it as a fact when in reality it isnt.

 

[Billy Ocean]

while i agree about budden that has nothing to do with deck, budden is on one of the highest rated reality shows among black people in the country not to mention his stupid ass twitter antics so he is pretty well known based on those 2 examples, he isnt really known for his music that much but that show has gotten him a few fans, i know a few hoes who like his music now even though he is at this point he is still relavent on social media and off of lahh.

I'm not a budden Stan at all hell I clown on him like anybody else does but that doesn't take away from the fact he dropped some very dope which some IMO was classic material from 05-09.

deck on the other hand

So basically you agreeing that Budden ain't relevant musically. Okay, cool. Young n!ggas, old n!ggas, and in between n!ggas don't listen to Budden. Just his stans. He's basically known by the general tv and internet going public for being a clown. All that love and hip hop sh!t is just sh!t bytches give a fvck about. Why you mentioning it?

And you're full of sh!t with this Deck thing. Deck 94-98 was better than Budden at any point in Budden career. Classic verses on top of classic verses and he has one of the GREATEST hip hop verses of all time (Triumph). And clearly you're unfamiliar with his new work. Both his recent mixtape and Czarface projects were very well received and much, much better than ANYTHING Budden has done in over half a decade. PLUS...HE'S A LEGEND. AGAIN...what's your point?

 

[dem bath salts]

I fukk with Joey when he's at his best but he's real hit or miss.
And his twitter antics annoy me so

 

[SubLyminalz]

So basically you agreeing that Budden ain't relevant musically. Okay, cool. Young n!ggas, old n!ggas, and in between n!ggas don't listen to Budden. Just his stans. He's basically known by the general tv and internet going public for being a clown.

And you're full of sh!t with this Deck thing. Deck 94-98 was better than Budden at any point in Budden career. Classic verses on top of classic verses and he has one of the GREATEST hip hop verses of all time (Triumph). And clearly you're unfamiliar with his new work. Both his recent mixtape and Czarface projects were very well received and much, much better than ANYTHING Budden has done in over half a decade. PLUS...HE'S A LEGEND. AGAIN...what's your point?

your speaking from a stanboy perspective, you can't even debate correct because everything is on some "deck dropped better verses then budden or deck is better" lil kid shyt with no facts to back it up and keep stating your flawed ass opinion as a fact when its your opinion, you just hate budden like he took your high school crush from you so there isn't any reasoning with you so I'm done with this argument.

verses from 20 years ago that nobody outside of Asians and wu heads don't care about don't hold any weight now.

take your off then we can discuss this.