OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
The Bulls have one of the worst front offices of any team over the last 20 years.
Bulls determined to fill all three jobs then let thibs go.
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cornercommission2k12
so this were u dudes went
We better damn well be sure hoiberg is the truth and he is locked in on coming here
Because if he is not, this front office has to go to another coaching search and thibs was a surprise , but Vinny and skiles were mediocre hires. We run a huge risk of that happening again. And at this point no coach with pedigree and prestigious rep will come here. That is why I said maybe it's best we keep thibs and hire a offensive coordinator. Add some quality players who can bring life to the roster (what they should have done at the trade deadline) and give it another go next season because going to that other alternate route might lead to a huge step backward going forward.
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god shamgod
Veteran
Stop lyin.Eddie Jones didn't want to play here cuz the bulls sucked.Jordan got the highest salaried contracts in nba history TWICE 30 and 33 million before the lockout prevented those contracts the bulls were offering eddie jones and tmac the max.Pippen dumb ass signed a terrible contract in 91 for security then complained about it for 7 years, then the bulls signed n traded him for 88 mil when he was pretty much done
You stay re writing history
Doc got traded for a future first rounder.
Skiles was a great hire at the time.
Great defensive coach that had our guys going 100% every night that was
offensively.Skiles first full year with the Bulls we were 27th offensively, 2nd defensively.
The year we won 49 games we were 21st offensively, 1st defensively.
His 2nd year with the Bucks they were ranked 23/2.
How would Skiles have done with the teams Thibs had
Like Thibs, he eventually lost the team.
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The Jerrys even told him,
salaries are going up in a few years, sign a short term deal so you can get the big contract, he wanted the long term deal, they told him you sign this long term contract, we're not re-negotiating once salaries go up 
tkislive
Rookie
Enough. The Bulls are soft. We've always been soft. We're not mentally ready ever to pursue championships, with/without thibs. Quite frankly thibs isn't an elite coach that the level of leading teams.
The nba is about balance. Offense/defense and great observation of detail. Able to strategize and take players out of comfort zones. If thibs is so great defensively, than why hasn't he found a way to contain lebron James by a little bit! Or rally his troops to play at a great level in the playoffs..yeah I know Derrick rose had injuries and the team has obstacles. But what team hasn't fought with injuries/age??? No excuses...
He doesn't have an offensive mind to make great plays for his team. He just barks and sounds like a poor man doc rivers, with all that yelling!! After all that he still hasn't reached the conference finals or finals...let that sink in. I'm just not impressed..
The nba is about balance. Offense/defense and great observation of detail. Able to strategize and take players out of comfort zones. If thibs is so great defensively, than why hasn't he found a way to contain lebron James by a little bit! Or rally his troops to play at a great level in the playoffs..yeah I know Derrick rose had injuries and the team has obstacles. But what team hasn't fought with injuries/age??? No excuses...
He doesn't have an offensive mind to make great plays for his team. He just barks and sounds like a poor man doc rivers, with all that yelling!! After all that he still hasn't reached the conference finals or finals...let that sink in. I'm just not impressed..
beenz
Rap Guerilla
jesus christ, you are gonna make me have to go here.
1st off, they hooked jay williams up. no one would have said shyt if they would have voided his deal after that accident. and they were well within their rights to do such a thing.
as for pip and mj being fukked over, that's complete
pip chose to sign a long term deal against the advice of the bulls management (while coming off back surgery) and then was mad a couple years later when he exceeded his contract. you think a business is gonna just tear up your deal so they can give you a raise when you're already locked in???
this is the EXACT same situation the warriors are in with steph curry, cuz they got him on a bargain deal, and he exceeded his contract expectations. sometimes you win like with pip and steph. sometimes you loose. like brandon roy.mj didn't get jerked either. he was the best player in the NBA for almost his entire career. there was no deal that would pay him what he's worth in theory. similar to lebron. and once
deal ended, he raped the bulls his last two years. I mean he deserved it, but whatever.as for summer 2000 debacle with the free agent strike out. I do agree, that the perception around the league was that jerry and jerry forced MJ, pip, and phil out, and that left a bad taste in the mouth of all free agents in the subsequent years following that. I doubt that's really valid now. it's 2015, and potential free agents these days were children when that shyt happened. but they didn't strike out in free agency for being cheap. they were ready to offer all those dudes a max.
also how are the bulls cheap when they:
extended
extended deng for 7 years, then tried to extend him prior to getting traded for 3 yrs $30M only for him to command $10M less in the open market???
maxed out rose
will max out butler
gave their boy toy hinrich deal after deal after deal and overpaid every time
offered ben gordon $50M (which he refused)
maxed out
ben wallacemaxed out carlos boozer
overpaid eddie robininson
beenz
Rap Guerilla
EXACTLY.
like I said, all that bulls being cheap bullshyt is nonsense. on top of hooking pip up with that sign and trade max deal to the rockets (bulls received NOTHING of value in return), they hooked up pip on the way out (after portland), with another 2 year deal of which he played like 30 total games and was beyond
and THEN brought him back into the organization AGAIN when he was thirsty again after retirement.
the next guy
Superstar
can't reinsdorf fine garpax and make thibs gm?
god shamgod
Veteran
The perception that the bulls got rid of jordan,pip and phil hurt them along with the bulls being utter trash for like 5 years after mj retired
It was really jerry krause ego cuz he beefed with mike,scottie and phil and the owner stayed out of it like he's doing now.Skiles kirk,bg,and deng era brought back the bulls credibility.
It was really jerry krause ego cuz he beefed with mike,scottie and phil and the owner stayed out of it like he's doing now.Skiles kirk,bg,and deng era brought back the bulls credibility.
The whole cheap thing is completely overblown and pretty baseless
Paid Deng and then offered him the same deal he took from Miami
Offered Ben Gordon a reasonable deal
Paid Noah, Rose
About to pay Butler
Gave a huge deal to Ben Wallace
Signed Boozer to a huge deal, made plays to pay the max to Wade, Bosh, Bron and most recently Melo.
When it comes to spending the money to push this team over the top, I have full confidence they will shell out the $$$
Paid Deng and then offered him the same deal he took from Miami
Offered Ben Gordon a reasonable deal
Paid Noah, Rose
About to pay Butler
Gave a huge deal to Ben Wallace
Signed Boozer to a huge deal, made plays to pay the max to Wade, Bosh, Bron and most recently Melo.
When it comes to spending the money to push this team over the top, I have full confidence they will shell out the $$$
James shot under 40% this past series, you're not gonna do much better than that against a guy at his level.
Amare's Right Hook
Southeast World Champion
Blackrogue
Superstar
I think what they're are trying is this..and I've felt they were going to do it for a while.
It's the equivalent of an employer knowing you want to go work for someone else. But he wants to fire you. If he fires you he has to pay severance, but if you quit he doesn't have to.
If they fire him they owe him money then he goes to some other org happy and feels he won. But if he quits you don't owe him money. The other organisation pays him. But if he chooses to prolong the standoff. You chill till there's no coaching job he's desperate to get then be like ok fine. We'll pay you. But you sitting out the year. Or they tough it out and stick with him.
He's basically hoping to be amnestied and the Bulls aren't with that. I'm a wiz fan, I have no horse in the race.
Alvin gentry is a good pick up. He's responsible for golden states offense
It's the equivalent of an employer knowing you want to go work for someone else. But he wants to fire you. If he fires you he has to pay severance, but if you quit he doesn't have to.
If they fire him they owe him money then he goes to some other org happy and feels he won. But if he quits you don't owe him money. The other organisation pays him. But if he chooses to prolong the standoff. You chill till there's no coaching job he's desperate to get then be like ok fine. We'll pay you. But you sitting out the year. Or they tough it out and stick with him.
He's basically hoping to be amnestied and the Bulls aren't with that. I'm a wiz fan, I have no horse in the race.
Alvin gentry is a good pick up. He's responsible for golden states offense
nomoreneveragain
Superstar
Idk ... Thibs had the Cavs on the Ropes with a Gimpy PG