Businesses in Greece move to other countries due to tax increases (58% tax rate)

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Greece is broke. Instead of cutting public aid and make their expenses more efficient, they just raised taxes (58%) on businesses because many of their supporters are on the public teet. As a result, busineses are moving out of Greece, exacerbating the Greek unemployement problem (25% and rising)

In Greece, business people see some improvement


When Marketplace visited the Dioptra publishing house in Athens a year ago, Greece seemed on the brink of economic collapse.

Businesses were grinding to a halt. Dioptra’s boss, Costas Papadopoulos, was unsure whether his company would survive.

One year later, things are a bit better — but only a bit.

“We still don’t know what we’re doing or where we’re going. We feel that here in Greece, it’s a crime to be a businessman,” he said. Greece’s left-wing government is making businesses bear the brunt of deficit reduction through higher taxes, claims Papadopoulos. He now pays a 58 percent levy on his profits, and more tax hikes are on their way.

“Things are bad now, but they’re going to be extremely bad a year from now,” he said.

Hundreds of Greek businesses have, reportedly, shifted their headquarters to Bulgaria or Romania to escape Greece’s soaring taxes.

An online travel firm called Tripsta already has an office in the Romanian capital Bucharest, and although the owner Philipp Brinkmann says he has no plans to pull out of his Athens base, he is more likely to create any new jobs in Romania because of the “more beneficial taxation."

That’s very bad news for Greece with its unemployment rate of 25 percent. Brinkmann claims it’s counterproductive for the Greek government to try to cut its budget deficit by mainly pushing up taxes.

“What they should do is cut public spending; make the public sector more efficient, more productive; and shed unnecessary labor,” Brinkmann said.

But the government has many supporters working in the public sector. Making businesses do the heavy lifting is, politically, an easier option.
 

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I frankly doubt there is anything left for Greece to cut after watching several documentaries....


Seems like whatever the tax rate is the people there refuse to pay. It's the same way in Italy.
 

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I frankly doubt there is anything left for Greece to cut after watching several documentaries....


Seems like whatever the tax rate is the people there refuse to pay. It's the same way in Italy.

Just saddle up all these people in a boat and make them pledge allegiance to GoldMan Sachs already
 

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I frankly doubt there is anything left for Greece to cut after watching several documentaries....


Seems like whatever the tax rate is the people there refuse to pay. It's the same way in Italy.

This is the problem. The Greeks and Italians especially business owners simple don't believe in paying taxes. Their version of the IRS is a complete joke.
 

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This is the problem. The Greeks and Italians especially business owners simple don't believe in paying taxes. Their version of the IRS is a complete joke.
The problem with these countries is far deeper than a shopkeeper not paying his taxes...

There is heavy corruption everywhere you look within their governments...

Can you really blame that shopkeeper for refusing to donate to insert politicians Swiss banking account? That's exactly where those taxes were going and now they're going to Goldman Sachs...
 

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The problem with these countries is far deeper than a shopkeeper not paying his taxes...

There is heavy corruption everywhere you look within their governments...

Can you really blame that shopkeeper for refusing to donate to insert politicians Swiss banking account? That's exactly where those taxes were going and now they're going to Goldman Sachs...

I'm not disputing the heavy political corruption, but you can't argue that tax avoidance was not a deeply rooted issue in Greece. Ron Suskind lays it out pretty well in his book 'Confidence Men'.
 

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.. is there anything actually keeping this country afloat besides the fact that it still exist? :dwillhuh:

It's been fukkery for 10 straight years now, i'm surprised there's even a government at all
 

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I'm not disputing the heavy political corruption, but you can't argue that tax avoidance was not a deeply rooted issue in Greece. Ron Suskind lays it out pretty well in his book 'Confidence Men'.
It is a deeply rooted issue, no denying that...

A big part of that issue is the people don't trust their government and they have good reason not to...
 

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how does greece fix this or is it simply too late?

58%?

geeeeeeeeez
 

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how does greece fix this or is it simply too late?

58%?

geeeeeeeeez
There is no end in sight to their misery through austerity without debt forgiveness...

The way to fix this was go back to the drachma...

They chose EU debt slavery...

That said if yall wanna travel there now is the time...

I just got back from Crete last week...
 

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The reason they are broke is because the majority of people there are lazy, "retire" young, and don't want to pay shyt. Literally the laziest people in the entire world, and they continually get bailed out by other European cuck countries.
 
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