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LOL, i would called them both pansy boys and tell them to cut that shyt out.

That's what I would do in general. If its only one guy and I feel I can take him on I would get involved physically otherwise I'd just be like "Hey, you! Knock it off, I'm calling the police." At least something. U can't just completely ignore it and go about ur business.
 

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Hard to say... everyone reacts different in situations. It's easy to say you would or wouldn't while we're sitting here talking about it in the comfort of our own homes safe & sound but to actually be IN that situation? I would think people's natural instinct to survive would kick in & they would keep it moving...

Me personally... I'd call the authorities & that might be it. Too many people got guns these days & I'm not one to intervene in a situation that I don't know the details...

Now as far as the "What if it was your mom or sister?" scenario... of course I'd be angered if someone or a few people ignored my mom getting attacked but at the end of the day am I really gonna blame someone for not interfering because they may fear that there own well being is at risk by getting into a situation they might know nothing about?

The system is fukked up too... people bytch about people not snitching to make the hood better yet if you report things to the cops they force you to fill out paperwork using your real name & address that anybody can get access to if they file a motion for it. So now not only have you risked your life by helping your community but they return the favor by making your information available to the people you're snitching on...

Remember that driver that uppercut that girl who was harassing people on the bus? How'd that work out for him being a good samaritan? He got fired & fined... and then society wonders why people mind their own business...
 

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Hard to say... everyone reacts different in situations. It's easy to say you would or wouldn't while we're sitting here talking about it in the comfort of our own homes safe & sound but to actually be IN that situation? I would think people's natural instinct to survive would kick in & they would keep it moving...

Me personally... I'd call the authorities & that might be it. Too many people got guns these days & I'm not one to intervene in a situation that I don't know the details...

Now as far as the "What if it was your mom or sister?" scenario... of course I'd be angered if someone or a few people ignored my mom getting attacked but at the end of the day am I really gonna blame someone for not interfering because they may fear that there own well being is at risk by getting into a situation they might know nothing about?

The system is fukked up too... people bytch about people not snitching to make the hood better yet if you report things to the cops they force you to fill out paperwork using your real name & address that anybody can get access to if they file a motion for it. So now not only have you risked your life by helping your community but they return the favor by making your information available to the people you're snitching on...

Remember that driver that uppercut that girl who was harassing people on the bus? How'd that work out for him being a good samaritan? He got fired & fined... and then society wonders why people mind their own business...

Society is messed up. its a two-sided coin at times. Sometimes we must take our own initiatives and step up. imo it isnt about being a good samartian. but understanding to a degree the element

of right and wrong.

In life as with anything else youre going to have to take risks
 

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Society is messed up. its a two-sided coin at times. Sometimes we must take our own initiatives and step up. imo it isnt about being a good samartian. but understanding to a degree the element

of right and wrong.

In life as with anything else youre going to have to take risks

That's what makes it so uncomfortable... not knowing...

For instance... my friend & his 2 cousins went to Vegas a few years ago & witnessed a guy attacking a girl... so it's 3 of them & 1 of him & naturally they go over there to whoop dudes ass. They all got arrested because the man pressed charges... they all have 5 years Supervision from a Misdemeanor & Battery Charge & got 1,000 hours of Community Service each. My friend got fired from his job despite explaining that he thought the guy was raping her... his company was contacted by his Social Worker about the matter.

And guess what? The police report stated that the guy was just some normal dude with money trying to enjoy his time & Vegas who had paid an Escort $1,500 to spend the entire week with him but on his last night she robbed him while he was sleep & stole nearly $5,000 from him. She was also notorious for robbing costumers & had been arrested before multiple times for petty crimes & even illegally prostituting in Los Angeles.

So my guy lost his job... had trouble finding another one because of his record & has 2 years left of reporting to his Social Worker once a month & had to serve 1,000 hours of his own personal time doing community service...

*ALL* because he was trying to do the right thing... over some smut who wasn't a good person...

The system is fukked...
 

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That's what makes it so uncomfortable... not knowing...

For instance... my friend & his 2 cousins went to Vegas a few years ago & witnessed a guy attacking a girl... so it's 3 of them & 1 of him & naturally they go over there to whoop dudes ass. They all got arrested because the man pressed charges... they all have 5 years Supervision from a Misdemeanor & Battery Charge & got 1,000 hours of Community Service each. My friend got fired from his job despite explaining that he thought the guy was raping her... his company was contacted by his Social Worker about the matter.

And guess what? The police report stated that the guy was just some normal dude with money trying to enjoy his time & Vegas who had paid an Escort $1,500 to spend the entire week with him but on his last night she robbed him while he was sleep & stole nearly $5,000 from him. She was also notorious for robbing costumers & had been arrested before multiple times for petty crimes & even illegally prostituting in Los Angeles.

So my guy lost his job... had trouble finding another one because of his record & has 2 years left of reporting to his Social Worker once a month & had to serve 1,000 hours of his own personal time doing community service...

*ALL* because he was trying to do the right thing... over some smut who wasn't a good person...

The system is fukked...


but isnt there like laws to insure shyt like this wont happen (wrongly persecuted).?
 

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but isnt there like laws to insure shyt like this wont happen (wrongly persecuted).?

Fukked up part is the judge saluted them for being good samaritans but said that 3 men attacking 1 was unnecessary & that his injuries were well beyond "being restrained" so he "did them a favor" & dropped the charges from Class C Aggravated Assault down to Misdemeanor Battery. :smh:

What's even worse is at the end of the 5 years of Supervision they still have to go through more paperwork, court & money to have the charges Expunged...

The system makes it very difficult to do the right thing sometimes. That's why I can't blame anyone for either side they choose when it comes to the bystander effect... it could go right & you could be a hero or it could go wrong & you can be a victim of your own kindness...
 
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