Cac Kills Multiple people and immediately runs into police after and nothing happens in Kenosha, WI
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get rid of these bums
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Somewhere in Wisconsin's wack laws apparently makes it not ok to have a handgun but you can have a rifle as long as it's not a sawed off or if you hunt or some shyt from what i've seen in breakdowns of this.
It seems really stupid like they need to redo or update these laws but bottomline this dude did a wrongful act and should get the book thrown at him. I'm no lawyer but im sure we all know with laws like stand your ground and shyt that there's loopholes all over these written statutes.
I hope justice gets served.
Kenosha Shooting Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse Criminal Complaint
Prosecutors Released A Timeline Of 17-Year-Old Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting Three People At A Kenosha Protest
The criminal complaint, released Thursday, details the shootings that sent Kenosha reeling from a night of deadly violence.
Posted on August 28, 2020, at 5:46 p.m. ET
Adam Rogan / AP Kyle Rittenhouse, left in the backward cap, walks along Sheridan Road in Kenosha on Aug. 25, 2020, with another armed civilian.
The timeline of 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse's movements the night he allegedly killed two people and injured another at a protest over the police shooting of Jacob Blake was laid out in detail by prosecutors in a criminal complaint filed Thursday.
Weaving together events on Aug. 25 that were partly captured by witness videos, the complaint obtained by BuzzFeed News paints a clearer picture of the shootings that sent Kenosha, Wisconsin, reeling — and people around the nation wondering what had happened — during a night of deadly violence.
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Rittenhouse's lawyers have previously called his actions "classic self-defense."
Authorities reviewed several cellphone recordings, including one that showed Rittenhouse running with a long gun, later identified as a Smith & Wesson AR-15-style .223 rifle with a magazine that held 30 rounds of ammunition. One of the shooting victims, Joseph Rosenbaum, followed Rittenhouse. A Daily Caller reporter, Richard McGinnis, followed behind.
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"The video shows that as they cross the parking lot, Rosenbaum appears to throw an object at the defendant. The object does not hit the defendant and a second video shows, based on where the object landed, that it was a plastic bag. Rosenbaum appears to be unarmed for the duration of this video," according to the criminal complaint.
Investigators pointed to another video that captured the first shooting in which several loud gunshots are heard, and Rosenbaum was seen falling to the ground. A man, whom investigators identified as McGinnis, ran up to Rosenbaum, took his shirt off, and attempted to help him.
Rittenhouse was seen looking at Rosenbaum on the ground, then running away with a cellphone to his ear saying, "I just killed somebody." Investigators later spoke to Dominic Black, who was identified as the friend Rittenhouse had called, according to the complaint. Black said that Rittenhouse called him at around 11:46 p.m.
An autopsy conducted by the Milwaukee Medical Examiner’s Office found that Rosenbaum was shot in the back, the right groin, left hand, and left thigh. His lung and liver were perforated, and his pelvis fractured. He also sustained a graze gunshot wound on his right forehead.
Prior to the shooting, McGinnis had interviewed Rittenhouse on video, asking him what he was doing out there and acknowledging his firearm.
"People are getting injured and our job is to protect this business, and part of my job is also to help people," Rittenhouse says. "If there's somebody hurt, I'm running into harm's way. That's why my rifle, so I can protect myself, obviously. I also have my med kit."
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When interviewed by a detective later, McGinnis said that Rittenhouse told him he was a trained medic. The reporter said he had experience with ARs and that the 17-year-old "was not handling the weapon very well." He also told the detective that an armed man who looked to be in his thirties walked south with them at one point, and the man said he was there to protect Rittenhouse.
It's unclear who the armed man is and where he was when Rosenbaum was shot. The complaint does not name him.
McGinnis told the detective that Rosenbaum was trying to grab Rittenhouse's gun, and Rittenhouse raised the weapon and shot Rosenbaum. McGinnis said he stayed to help Rosenbaum and heard gunshots soon after.
A third video from the night captured two other protesters, Anthony Huber and Gaige Grosskreutz, being shot.
The video shows Rittenhouse running along an open road with his rifle as bystanders follow him, shouting that he shot someone and trying to confront him.
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Rittenhouse trips and falls, and while on the ground, a man "jumps at and over the defendant" and Rittenhouse appears to shoot at him, but misses.
Huber then approaches him with a skateboard, seemingly trying to wrestle the rifle away. According to the complaint, Rittenhouse, who was still on the ground, then fired at Huber, who staggered away and collapsed.
Huber later died from the gunshot wound, and an autopsy found that he was shot in the chest, and the bullet perforated his heart, aorta, pulmonary artery, and right lung.
After shooting Huber, the complaint says, Rittenhouse sat up and pointed his weapon at Grosskreutz.
"Grosskreutz freezes and ducks and takes a step back. Grosskreutz puts his hands in the air. Grosskreutz then moves towards the defendant who aims his gun at Grosskreutz and shoots him, firing 1 shot. Grosskreutz was shot in the right arm. Grosskreutz appears to be holding a handgun in his right hand when he was shot," the complaint says.
Rittenhouse then got up and continued walking, then turned to walk backward as he pointed his rifle at people on the road, according to the complaint.
Cellphone video shows him still armed, walking with his hands raised, toward police vehicles. The police drove past him.
Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth could not explain in a press conference Wednesday why police did not detain Rittenhouse then, saying officers have "incredible tunnel vision" in those situations because of the noise.
On Friday, Beth told reporters that there was nothing to suggest that Rittenhouse "was involved in any criminal behavior" even though he was armed and walking toward police with his hands up.
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"Someone walking away with hands up, that wasn't out of the ordinary," Beth said. "Officers [were] telling him to get out of the way. They didn't see him as a suspect ... no idea [in that moment] he was involved."
Brandon Bell / Getty Images Demonstrators revisit the site where a protester was killed in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Rittenhouse has been charged with two counts of first-degree homicide, one count of attempted homicide, two counts of recklessly endangering safety, and possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18. Neither of his lawyers, John Pierce or L. Lin Wood, responded to multiple requests for comment on the allegations and timeline that investigators outlined in the criminal complaint.
Rittenhouse, who BuzzFeed News reported was a teen who supported "Blue Lives Matter" and was in the front row of a Trump campaign rally in January, remains in custody in Illinois, his home state. The state of Wisconsin has filed for his extradition, but a hearing set for Friday was delayed until Sept. 25.
His legal team has said Rittenhouse was trying to defend himself. "This was classic self-defense and we are going to prove it," Pierce said in a statement to NBC News. "We will obtain justice for Kyle no matter how hard the fight or how long it takes."
A newly created organization called the Fight Back Foundation, cofounded by Rittenhouse's attorneys Wood and Pierce, is currently raising money for Rittenhouse's defense.
Prosecutors Released A Timeline Of 17-Year-Old Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting Three People At A Kenosha Protest
The criminal complaint, released Thursday, details the shootings that sent Kenosha reeling from a night of deadly violence.
Posted on August 28, 2020, at 5:46 p.m. ET
Adam Rogan / AP Kyle Rittenhouse, left in the backward cap, walks along Sheridan Road in Kenosha on Aug. 25, 2020, with another armed civilian.
The timeline of 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse's movements the night he allegedly killed two people and injured another at a protest over the police shooting of Jacob Blake was laid out in detail by prosecutors in a criminal complaint filed Thursday.
Weaving together events on Aug. 25 that were partly captured by witness videos, the complaint obtained by BuzzFeed News paints a clearer picture of the shootings that sent Kenosha, Wisconsin, reeling — and people around the nation wondering what had happened — during a night of deadly violence.
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Rittenhouse's lawyers have previously called his actions "classic self-defense."
Authorities reviewed several cellphone recordings, including one that showed Rittenhouse running with a long gun, later identified as a Smith & Wesson AR-15-style .223 rifle with a magazine that held 30 rounds of ammunition. One of the shooting victims, Joseph Rosenbaum, followed Rittenhouse. A Daily Caller reporter, Richard McGinnis, followed behind.
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"The video shows that as they cross the parking lot, Rosenbaum appears to throw an object at the defendant. The object does not hit the defendant and a second video shows, based on where the object landed, that it was a plastic bag. Rosenbaum appears to be unarmed for the duration of this video," according to the criminal complaint.
Investigators pointed to another video that captured the first shooting in which several loud gunshots are heard, and Rosenbaum was seen falling to the ground. A man, whom investigators identified as McGinnis, ran up to Rosenbaum, took his shirt off, and attempted to help him.
Rittenhouse was seen looking at Rosenbaum on the ground, then running away with a cellphone to his ear saying, "I just killed somebody." Investigators later spoke to Dominic Black, who was identified as the friend Rittenhouse had called, according to the complaint. Black said that Rittenhouse called him at around 11:46 p.m.
An autopsy conducted by the Milwaukee Medical Examiner’s Office found that Rosenbaum was shot in the back, the right groin, left hand, and left thigh. His lung and liver were perforated, and his pelvis fractured. He also sustained a graze gunshot wound on his right forehead.
Prior to the shooting, McGinnis had interviewed Rittenhouse on video, asking him what he was doing out there and acknowledging his firearm.
"People are getting injured and our job is to protect this business, and part of my job is also to help people," Rittenhouse says. "If there's somebody hurt, I'm running into harm's way. That's why my rifle, so I can protect myself, obviously. I also have my med kit."
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When interviewed by a detective later, McGinnis said that Rittenhouse told him he was a trained medic. The reporter said he had experience with ARs and that the 17-year-old "was not handling the weapon very well." He also told the detective that an armed man who looked to be in his thirties walked south with them at one point, and the man said he was there to protect Rittenhouse.
It's unclear who the armed man is and where he was when Rosenbaum was shot. The complaint does not name him.
McGinnis told the detective that Rosenbaum was trying to grab Rittenhouse's gun, and Rittenhouse raised the weapon and shot Rosenbaum. McGinnis said he stayed to help Rosenbaum and heard gunshots soon after.
A third video from the night captured two other protesters, Anthony Huber and Gaige Grosskreutz, being shot.
The video shows Rittenhouse running along an open road with his rifle as bystanders follow him, shouting that he shot someone and trying to confront him.
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Rittenhouse trips and falls, and while on the ground, a man "jumps at and over the defendant" and Rittenhouse appears to shoot at him, but misses.
Huber then approaches him with a skateboard, seemingly trying to wrestle the rifle away. According to the complaint, Rittenhouse, who was still on the ground, then fired at Huber, who staggered away and collapsed.
Huber later died from the gunshot wound, and an autopsy found that he was shot in the chest, and the bullet perforated his heart, aorta, pulmonary artery, and right lung.
After shooting Huber, the complaint says, Rittenhouse sat up and pointed his weapon at Grosskreutz.
"Grosskreutz freezes and ducks and takes a step back. Grosskreutz puts his hands in the air. Grosskreutz then moves towards the defendant who aims his gun at Grosskreutz and shoots him, firing 1 shot. Grosskreutz was shot in the right arm. Grosskreutz appears to be holding a handgun in his right hand when he was shot," the complaint says.
Rittenhouse then got up and continued walking, then turned to walk backward as he pointed his rifle at people on the road, according to the complaint.
Cellphone video shows him still armed, walking with his hands raised, toward police vehicles. The police drove past him.
Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth could not explain in a press conference Wednesday why police did not detain Rittenhouse then, saying officers have "incredible tunnel vision" in those situations because of the noise.
On Friday, Beth told reporters that there was nothing to suggest that Rittenhouse "was involved in any criminal behavior" even though he was armed and walking toward police with his hands up.
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"Someone walking away with hands up, that wasn't out of the ordinary," Beth said. "Officers [were] telling him to get out of the way. They didn't see him as a suspect ... no idea [in that moment] he was involved."
Brandon Bell / Getty Images Demonstrators revisit the site where a protester was killed in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Rittenhouse has been charged with two counts of first-degree homicide, one count of attempted homicide, two counts of recklessly endangering safety, and possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18. Neither of his lawyers, John Pierce or L. Lin Wood, responded to multiple requests for comment on the allegations and timeline that investigators outlined in the criminal complaint.
Rittenhouse, who BuzzFeed News reported was a teen who supported "Blue Lives Matter" and was in the front row of a Trump campaign rally in January, remains in custody in Illinois, his home state. The state of Wisconsin has filed for his extradition, but a hearing set for Friday was delayed until Sept. 25.
His legal team has said Rittenhouse was trying to defend himself. "This was classic self-defense and we are going to prove it," Pierce said in a statement to NBC News. "We will obtain justice for Kyle no matter how hard the fight or how long it takes."
A newly created organization called the Fight Back Foundation, cofounded by Rittenhouse's attorneys Wood and Pierce, is currently raising money for Rittenhouse's defense.
- Clarissa-Jan Lim is a reporter and editor at BuzzFeed News. She is based in New York.
shot the first dude fukking 5x...including once in the back
he’s fukking done
I seen what one bullet did to that last dude’s arm
but he laced first dude up 5x smh
I heard all the shots in the video...didn’t know they all hit tho
thought dude just only got shot in the head
A Civil war? Ain't gone be no civil war when all them racist cacs got guns. The left ain't about that.
You (like most people) don't seem to know the difference between the left, and liberals. People lump those two groups together just because of the dem/republican divide but there is a distinction, there are no "leftist" cities keeping black folks from purchasing firearms.
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It’s amazing how everyone with common sense knew Donald trump would be a disaster. There were signs. At his rallies in 2016, black protester was being escorted out and was struck by a trump supporter. They arrested the black guy.
all sorts of fucckery was there but those fuccking emails though. Damn emails. Fuccking idiots.
all sorts of fucckery was there but those fuccking emails though. Damn emails. Fuccking idiots.
Wrong thread.
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NRA c00n Colion Nior explains the defense white supremacist will use to get Kyle Whateverhouse off.
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illegally using the gun
the self defense argument is null because its being used in commission of a crime because he is a minor
He should not have the gun in the first place
The police should not be allowing this people to walk around with guns
The protesters hear he shot someone and assume he is targeting protesters. The two people he killed did not have firearms
The first dude threw a plastic bag at him and even if he reached for his gun he fired 5 shots
That's an open and shut homicide conviction if he fired on shot to deter the man he would have an argument but he was busting off
Second dude came at him with a skateboard after he fell. Fired one shot at him. This killed him but he could legally claim he was not trying to kill him but defend himself
Last dude had a gun and he fired once
Arguably the fact that he killed the people who did not have lethal weapons is a mark on him but the difference between overwhelming force and self defense is going to be what gets him 20 to life
the self defense argument is null because its being used in commission of a crime because he is a minor
He should not have the gun in the first place
The police should not be allowing this people to walk around with guns
The protesters hear he shot someone and assume he is targeting protesters. The two people he killed did not have firearms
The first dude threw a plastic bag at him and even if he reached for his gun he fired 5 shots
That's an open and shut homicide conviction if he fired on shot to deter the man he would have an argument but he was busting off
Second dude came at him with a skateboard after he fell. Fired one shot at him. This killed him but he could legally claim he was not trying to kill him but defend himself
Last dude had a gun and he fired once
Arguably the fact that he killed the people who did not have lethal weapons is a mark on him but the difference between overwhelming force and self defense is going to be what gets him 20 to life
I get the strong impression a lot of decisions on these police officers who are currently charged, will be made right before the election.
And when riots starts happening again and the streets begin to burn, loser ass trump will flood the airwaves trying to portray himself as the law and order candidate.
And when riots starts happening again and the streets begin to burn, loser ass trump will flood the airwaves trying to portray himself as the law and order candidate.
