Cac Media Lynching of Michael Jackson Begins. Hit Piece Mokumentary at Sundance with proven liars

[NobodyReally]

I think he did it. Predators always pick messy victims. They're less likely to believed. Why did MJ have an alarm to single who's approaching his bedroom? You don't need an alarm telling you when people are getting close unless you're doing something in there.



The director, Dan Reed, in the LA Times:

"When Wade told me that he loved Michael, then everything suddenly crystallized and made sense. This is difficult to say, but he had a fulfilling sexual and emotional relationship at the age of 7 with a 30-year-old man who happened to be the King of Pop. And because he enjoyed it, he loved Michael, and the sex was pleasant. I’m sorry, that’s just the reality.

Most people imagine the kid kind of being forced — that’s not what happened, and Wade makes that very, very clear. If you’re really going to understand what oftentimes child sexual abuse is like, you have to understand that the abuser creates an authentic relationship that if the person was aged 18 or older would be completely normal. The problem is that the child is 7, and a 7-year-old can’t make those decisions.

We have to face the fact that child sexual abuse isn’t a guy grabbing you in the dark and you scream and he runs off and you tell your mom. If this film can make certain ideas about sexual abuse current — if that can become part of the culture — then we’ve done a good job, because then people will be able to recognize symptoms and understand why Mark or Joe or whoever started drinking heavily in his early 30s and it turned out he had been abused by his schoolteacher.

The central thing you have to understand is that these children fell in love with Michael Jackson. Jackson wasn’t a kind of grab-and-grope pedophile — he was a romance, relationship pedophile. Wade started telling me how he had fallen in love with Jackson and how that love lasted for years — decades — and how that love motivated his loyalty to Jackson. And how that loyalty ended up requiring him to lie about what happened.

And also because the sexual abuse happened in the context of a loving relationship, it didn’t seem like abuse. It seemed like love."



This shyt sounds too much like real CSA stuff. Anyone who has been an advocate in court for child sex victims or worked with them knows this is the kind of stuff that happens.

 

[Azul]

That "alarm" shyt has been debunked. Do yourself a favor and watch the videos and files that have been posted. His room was a duplex, by the way.

@NobodyReally

 

[Dynamite James]

I think he did it. Predators always pick messy victims. They're less likely to believed. Why did MJ have an alarm to single who's approaching his bedroom? You don't need an alarm telling you when people are getting close unless you're doing something in there.



The director, Dan Reed, in the LA Times:

"When Wade told me that he loved Michael, then everything suddenly crystallized and made sense. This is difficult to say, but he had a fulfilling sexual and emotional relationship at the age of 7 with a 30-year-old man who happened to be the King of Pop. And because he enjoyed it, he loved Michael, and the sex was pleasant. I’m sorry, that’s just the reality.

Most people imagine the kid kind of being forced — that’s not what happened, and Wade makes that very, very clear. If you’re really going to understand what oftentimes child sexual abuse is like, you have to understand that the abuser creates an authentic relationship that if the person was aged 18 or older would be completely normal. The problem is that the child is 7, and a 7-year-old can’t make those decisions.

We have to face the fact that child sexual abuse isn’t a guy grabbing you in the dark and you scream and he runs off and you tell your mom. If this film can make certain ideas about sexual abuse current — if that can become part of the culture — then we’ve done a good job, because then people will be able to recognize symptoms and understand why Mark or Joe or whoever started drinking heavily in his early 30s and it turned out he had been abused by his schoolteacher.

The central thing you have to understand is that these children fell in love with Michael Jackson. Jackson wasn’t a kind of grab-and-grope pedophile — he was a romance, relationship pedophile. Wade started telling me how he had fallen in love with Jackson and how that love lasted for years — decades — and how that love motivated his loyalty to Jackson. And how that loyalty ended up requiring him to lie about what happened.

And also because the sexual abuse happened in the context of a loving relationship, it didn’t seem like abuse. It seemed like love."



This shyt sounds too much like real CSA stuff. Anyone who has been an advocate in court for child sex victims or worked with them knows this is the kind of stuff that happens.

I hate people like you... You think because you heard soundbite or read a little artice that you think you know everything.
I doubt you have read the court documents and Transcripts.
Unfortunately, you represent the majority of people. Sheep.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Anybody saying “I believe he was” instantly destroys their own argument..what are we, kids at camp telling ghost stories by the camp fire?

Rational adults go by evidence, we read up on things, we use logic and common sense - stop squeezing your eyes shut and hugging yourself rocking back n forth “believing” mike was a pedo, grow your asses up

 

[NobodyReally]

That "alarm" shyt has been debunked. Do yourself a favor and watch the videos and files that have been posted. His room was a duplex, by the way.

@NobodyReally

I hate people like you... because you here a sound bite or read a little artice and think you know everything.
I doubt you have read the court documents and Transcripts.
Unfortunately, you represent the majority of people. Sheep.

Anybody saying “I believe he was” instantly destroys their own argument..what are we, kids at camp telling ghost stories by the camp fire?

Rational adults go by evidence, we read up on things, we use logic and common sense - stop squeezing your eyes shut and hugging yourself rocking back n forth “believing” mike was a pedo, grow your asses up

Interesting you guys are talking about common sense and proof because common sense would dictate that if you're going to do a crime like molest kids, you'd not leave any physical marks or proof. Thousands of people do it every year. Read some transcripts from childhood abuse victims who were not penetrated and tell me how you would go about establishing "proof" of that. You can't. People don't abuse children in front of crowds of people. If they're smart about it, they don't leave stains or abrasions. I don't expect anyone who hasn't worked with childhood sexual victims to understand. Fact is, what is the evidence of sexual abuse? How do you prove someone touched you? A touch doesn't leave a mark. Unless you were violently raped, you can't prove sexual abuse. The system is set up for hard proof, which childhood sexual abuse rarely provides. Sorry, I'm always in the corner of the victims. Seen and heard too much shyt that sounds just like this and a lot of it doesn't count as "proof" by the general public's standards.

You believe what you want to believe, but I think a grown man who sleeps with kids and has multiple accusations is "proof" enough.

 

[Azul]

Interesting you guys are talking about common sense and proof because common sense would dictate that if you're going to do a crime like molest kids, you'd not leave any physical marks or proof. Thousands of people do it every year. Read some transcripts from childhood abuse victims who were not penetrated and tell me how you would go about establishing "proof" of that. You can't. People don't abuse children in front of crowds of people. If they're smart about it, they don't leave stains or abrasions. I don't expect anyone who hasn't worked with childhood sexual victims to understand. Fact is, what is the evidence of sexual abuse? How do you prove someone touched you? A touch doesn't leave a mark. Unless you were violently raped, you can't prove sexual abuse. The system is set up for hard proof, which childhood sexual abuse rarely provides. Sorry, I'm always in the corner of the victims. Seen and heard too much shyt that sounds just like this and a lot of it doesn't count as "proof" by the general public's standards.

You believe what you want to believe, but I think a grown man who sleeps with kids and has multiple accusations is "proof" enough.

First off, for over a decade I've worked in education (I've had to call in cases many times) for almost 11 years now. I've tutored and mentored kids since the 7th grade so dont preach to me like you're the only champion for kids.

What you may know and seem to ignore is that the FBI investigated his ass for a decade and concluded they had nothing. Either MJ was the most sinister and smartest motherfukker alive to come out of that clean or they had real dumbasses on his case over the years.

 

[Dynamite James]

Interesting you guys are talking about common sense and proof because common sense would dictate that if you're going to do a crime like molest kids, you'd not leave any physical marks or proof. Thousands of people do it every year. Read some transcripts from childhood abuse victims who were not penetrated and tell me how you would go about establishing "proof" of that. You can't. People don't abuse children in front of crowds of people. If they're smart about it, they don't leave stains or abrasions. I don't expect anyone who hasn't worked with childhood sexual victims to understand. Fact is, what is the evidence of sexual abuse? How do you prove someone touched you? A touch doesn't leave a mark. Unless you were violently raped, you can't prove sexual abuse. The system is set up for hard proof, which childhood sexual abuse rarely provides. Sorry, I'm always in the corner of the victims. Seen and heard too much shyt that sounds just like this and a lot of it doesn't count as "proof" by the general public's standards.

You believe what you want to believe, but I think a grown man who sleeps with kids and has multiple accusations is "proof" enough.

There is proof that the accusers were liars!







You're just going to ignore all the bullshyt his accusers have done?

 

[NobodyReally]

First off, for over a decade I've worked in education (I've had to call in cases many times) for almost 11 years now. I've tutored and mentored kids since the 7th grade so dont preach to me like you're the only champion for kids.

What you may know and seem to ignore is that the FBI investigated his ass for a decade and concluded they had nothing. Either MJ was the most sinister and smartest motherfukker alive to come out of that clean or they had real dumbasses on his case over the years.

Huh? I didn't preach to you like I was the only champion of kids. You're projecting now. There are tons of teachers who ignore students who tell them they've been molested because they want proof. The Catholic Church has been ignoring victims for decades because they didn't have enough proof. Hell, even the U.S. Olympics dynamistic team couldn't find enough "proof" to make a case for anyone in charge of them to listen. You working in education really doesn't mean anything. There's tons of people in our school systems who need to see a mark or actual video footage before they believe a child.

 

[Tenchi Ryu]

Michael Jackson is no normal ass nikka, so I don't put him under the same scope as other people who would be in this situation.

Normal nikkas get busted for sleeping with kids if they had FBI on they ass for 20 years, normal nikkas don't have their whole life history on broadcast to the point we know every damn detail on why he was as weird as he was. Normal dudes ain't got a fortune worth going after which is easy as fukk to do due to his naive nature.

So comparing a kid sleeping at some random joe's house compared to fukking neverland amusement park knowing everything I know about the evidence, MJ's history and his troubled upbringing is not really comparable to me.

 

[Azul]

Huh? I didn't preach to you like I was the only champion of kids. You're projecting now. There are tons of teachers who ignore students who tell them they've been molested because they want proof. The Catholic Church has been ignoring victims for decades because they didn't have enough proof. Hell, even the U.S. Olympics dynamistic team couldn't find enough "proof" to make a case for anyone in charge of them to listen. You working in education really doesn't mean anything. There's tons of people in our school systems who need to see a mark or actual video footage before they believe a child.

Got it

 

[NobodyReally]

Michael Jackson is no normal ass nikka, so I don't put him under the same scope as other people who would be in this situation.

Normal nikkas get busted for sleeping with kids if they had FBI on they ass for 20 years, normal nikkas don't have their whole life history on broadcast to the point we know every damn detail on why he was as weird as he was. Normal dudes ain't got a fortune worth going after which is easy as fukk to do due to his naive nature.

So comparing a kid sleeping at some random joe's house compared to fukking neverland amusement park knowing everything I know about the evidence, MJ's history and his troubled upbringing is not really comparable to me.

That works both ways. He's not a normal dude and he has a lot of power and wealth. I think it's amazing how people bend over backwards to protect rich and talented people accused of crimes vs. normal Joes. Any other dude sleeping with kids in the beds, dudes would be ready to shoot this weirdo. You said it yourself, he's a weirdo. Why is pedophilia outside the scope of possibility. Anyway, you guys can return your MJ pep rally. I'm out.

 

[Dynamite James]

That works both ways. He's not a normal dude and he has a lot of power and wealth. I think it's amazing how people bend over backwards to protect rich and talented people accused of crimes vs. normal Joes. Any other dude sleeping with kids in the beds, dudes would be ready to shoot this weirdo. You said it yourself, he's a weirdo. Why is pedophilia outside the scope of possibility. Anyway, you guys can return your MJ pep rally. I'm out.

Have you read actual court documents and trial transcripts involving Michael Jackson?

 

[Tenchi Ryu]

Any other dude sleeping with kids in the beds, dudes would be ready to shoot this weirdo.

Sure but if those kids came to me and in detail told me he didn't do shyt to them and it was a friendly non sexual interaction, which every other person involved who was not trying to get a check has done, I'd let the shyt go. Think the shyt was weird, but let it go.

Corey Haim, who has basically told us plain as day Charlie sheen touched him, is on record saying MJ never did a thing to the kids he had at neverland.

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Interesting you guys are talking about common sense and proof because common sense would dictate that if you're going to do a crime like molest kids, you'd not leave any physical marks or proof. Thousands of people do it every ye

hold up...let's just cut through to the heart of this

YOU BELIEVE MJ TRICKED AND FOOLED THE FBI?

just a yes or a no please.