Caesaro: When you can't even make it onto the poster for the show in your home country...

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It makes plenty of sense.

Plenty of people on the roster are over but there's a hierarchy and wrestlers got a certain amount of time in the limelight.

Another thing, Daniel Bryan even when he was champ he wasn't drawing huge like that.


Bryan did better as champion than any reign over the last 3 years though and consistently got better ratings than Cena and Brock.

Daniel Bryan is the biggest superstar in pro wrestling..that's why they won't let him out of his contract. He's the difference maker..everyone else up and down are just sidekicks. U nyggas didn't care about Miz until he went off on Bryan because Bryan MATTERS and is the definition of credible.
 

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He was always like this on the mic as heel..u people were just clowning him for it. Just like u flip flopped on Charlotte and Sasha because they are different roles.

And no one has to lose their but AJ is nowhere near leaving Cesaro in the dust on any level. Cesaro can just as level, strikes harder, looks believable, and has had carried most of these tags matches with Sheamus, New Day, and practically anyone else. He's not a star yet him getting Cheated on Monday New Day booed out? Again..u all pick and choose when u think someone is elite. Instead of being legit or factual.
I said none of that, just that AJ is deserving, and better than Cesaro.
 

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That's cool but there is no proof of that and Cesaro has always brought it...apparently just under appreciated on this site. That whole way of thinking is like a female saying she likes Roman simply for his looks than for actually being talented and having merit and logical reasoning behind it.
 

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U don't know what star quality is. Not making a lick of sense.

Khali had personality? Cut the stupid shyt.

Khali is treated like a god in India, which WWE were trying to break into, and edited his segments to make him look like a face when airing there. And then they broke into India and made $$$ using Khali. So yes, he had star quality.
 

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U don't know what star quality is. Not making a lick of sense.

Khali had personality? Cut the stupid shyt.
khali was a shyt champion
so i dont see your point
vince loves giants
he atleast had the look

you guys just like rooting for the underdog lol
dean ambroise is way more over than caesoro has ever been and even him becoming champion seemed like a reach at the time. and you see how that ended up lmao

take him off tv for like 6 months,
send his ass to smackdown with new music and new ring attire and a new gimmick and give him the ic title and see what he can do with that

he has no business with either world title right now lmao
 
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Bryan did better as champion than any reign over the last 3 years though and consistently got better ratings than Cena and Brock.

Daniel Bryan is the biggest superstar in pro wrestling..that's why they won't let him out of his contract. He's the difference maker..everyone else up and down are just sidekicks. U nyggas didn't care about Miz until he went off on Bryan because Bryan MATTERS and is the definition of credible.

That doesn't mean that he was a huge draw. The wwe was still doing relatively the same numbers.

You're inflating his value a bit too much.

The miz is irrelevant to my point so:yeshrug:
 

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Khali is treated like a god in India, which WWE were trying to break into, and edited his segments to make him look like a face when airing there. And then they broke into India and made $$$ using Khali. So yes, he had star quality.

There is no legitimate proof of Khali breaking records as champion in India...never has been. There's these mystery stats on merchandise with Cena and odd justifications for a non draw like even a Blandy getting paid what he does when he means JACK shyt TO RATINGS and BUYRATES and that goes back to his biggest pushes in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, and the last couple of years.
khali was a shyt champion
so i dont see your point
vince loves giants
he atleast had the look

you guys just like rooting for the underdog lol
dean ambroise is way more over than caesoro has ever been and even him becoming champion seemed like a reach at the time. and you see how that ended up lmao

take him off tv for like 6 months,
send his ass to smackdown with new music and new ring attire and a new gimmick and give him the ic title and see what he can do with that

he has no business with either world title right now lmao

Khali was a shyt champion who they gave the belt to yet you guys in here crying and trying to tear down Cesaro to put over AJ Styles as this ALL TIME level talent..even though they were marking out for CM Punk when AJ was even crisper in the ring then compared to now. Only now that he's in the WWE are others trying to make it seem like he's now in the same bracket as Bret Hart:laugh:. Vince treates you kids like puppets every week. You're all sick of Ellsworth but he's over..you all act like Charlotte is GREAT but Sasha is who is in demand. You act like Cesaro is 10 levels below AJ but AJ hasn't outworked Cesaro to date. He just hits prettier and flashier shyt.

Dean Ambrose got booed against AJ and was getting kind of booed against Cena until he lit Cena up in that promo before the Triple Threat and now fans are cheering him again. Cesaro never had those problems. They chose Cesaro over Roman in those matches last year and damn sure was with him in those Cena matches. Yet Ambrose is "MORE OVER" than he is. lol.

Cesaro has no business being champion but the guy losing to Ellsworth every week is the $hit? WTF:laugh:
That doesn't mean that he was a huge draw. The wwe was still doing relatively the same numbers.

You're inflating his value a bit too much.

The miz is irrelevant to my point so:yeshrug:


Daniel Bryan crossed barriers into football and basketball and got ratings on both Smackdown and Raw competing with guys who got more wins and who was paid more money. Overpaid since he was outdrawing them. The WWE is still doing the same numbers? I haven't seen 3.2 or better in who the fukk knows how long. I'm seeing 1.8-2.1..CM Punk numbers and shyt. So it's definitely not the same thing...Owens, Rollins, Reigns,and Ambrose aren't getting the job done which is why they brought Bryan BACK as a key player on Smackdown.
 

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There is no legitimate proof of Khali breaking records as champion in India...never has been. There's these mystery stats on merchandise with Cena and odd justifications for a non draw like even a Blandy getting paid what he does when he means JACK shyt TO RATINGS and BUYRATES and that goes back to his biggest pushes in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, and the last couple of years.

I didn't say anything about him breaking records, so stop putting words into my mouth so you can argue something. I said he was instrumental in helping WWE break into India, which they successfully did with Khali's popularity and help in promoting (which he still does on the India tours), which means he had a clear value to WWE as champion. Getting a solid foothold in the second most populated area on the entire planet holds infinitely more value than anything Cesaro brings to the table. Workrate be damned.
 

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I didn't say anything about him breaking records, so stop putting words into my mouth so you can argue something. I said he was instrumental in helping WWE break into India, which they successfully did with Khali's popularity and help in promoting (which he still does on the India tours), which means he had a clear value to WWE as champion. Getting a solid foothold in the second most populated area on the entire planet holds infinitely more value than anything Cesaro brings to the table. Workrate be damned.
Argue something? I didn't ask you to reply in the first place. you're in here justifying the Khali push on some wordplay by the company to explain oddball pushes out of the woodwork from 9 years ago. And what the fukk has India brought to the WWE game? they don't even put their specials on the Network. If it meant to them what it meant to do business with China, believe me, they would be in everyone's face instead of being used as a joke.
 
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Daniel Bryan crossed barriers into football and basketball and got ratings on both Smackdown and Raw competing with guys who got more wins and who was paid more money. Overpaid since he was outdrawing them. The WWE is still doing the same numbers? I haven't seen 3.2 or better in who the fukk knows how long. I'm seeing 1.8-2.1..CM Punk numbers and shyt. So it's definitely not the same thing...Owens, Rollins, Reigns,and Ambrose aren't getting the job done which is why they brought Bryan BACK as a key player on Smackdown.

Him crossing over to other areas of entertainment is irrelevant to the actual numbers. Whatever difference he made was minimal.

He wasn't the savior of the wwe. When he was still wrestling people were still complaining about the ratings being too low.

Smackdown is consistently pulling lesser ratings than raw with less competition to deal with on Tuesdays. Daniel bryan`s presence wasn't strong enough when he was wrestling and it isn't strong enough to pull the company outta of it's runt now.
 

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Argue something? I didn't ask you to reply in the first place. you're in here justifying the Khali push on some wordplay by the company to explain oddball pushes out of the woodwork from 9 years ago. And what the fukk has India brought to the WWE game? they don't even put their specials on the Network. If it meant to them what it meant to do business with China, believe me, they would be in everyone's face instead of being used as a joke.

Quoted me, but expect me not to reply to you saying I said something I didn't say at all. India is a big market. Khali was a big star there. There's value in that, hence why Khali got the push he did. Switzerland is a small market. Nothing matters there. What part of this aren't you understanding? Sorry Khali couldn't do a shytty 619, breh.

It's not mental gymnastics. It's clear as day why Khali got the push he did, and why Cesaro gets the push he gets.
 
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