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And he has the one of the best WRs to throw to.
Cam Explains Why He Left Jalen Hurts Off His Top 10 QBs List
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Im sorry but Herbert has done NOTHING to even be mentioned in the top 10. If he was black, he would be under so much criticism for his lack of making the playoffs like they did to Lamar who actually performed, made the playoffs and win MVP. The fukk has Herbert done? He get the same pass that ol' lemon head ass Philip Rivers got while being a Charger. At least Rivers made the playoffs and has won while doing so.
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It's possibly because his usually shytty O-Line couldn't block the most devastating interior pass rusher of this era when it mattered most.
Did the Eagles get to the Super Bowl without Saquon? Yes. They still had a top level OL, a top level WR duo, and a top 10 defense that was historically great at rushing the passer. They also had a Pro Bowl running back. Hurts was exceptional that season, too.
Miles Sanders ain't Saquon, but people seem to forget that in Philadelphia, Sanders consistently averaged 5 yards or more a carry and crossed 1300 scrimmage yards twice in four years as part of a RB committee. He went from Philly to CAROLINA and suddenly he's ass. Meanwhile, Saquon, when healthy, was producing despite what was around him in New York.
Folks think that not calling Jalen Hurts elite suddenly means he's ass. I think he has to be considered top 10. But the list is flawed outside of the top 3, TBH. He's an objectively good quarterback who has had his best games during the Super Bowl, and he also happens to have the best situation of his peers.
Does he still have to make it work? Yes.
Does he have his moments of greatness? Yes.
Does he have to do as much as other QBs regularly for his team to win/be effective? No. And that's not his fault.
However, people on this board know that the bolded matters, though. Otherwise, Jalen Hurts should be considered the best QB in the league without question when you take wins, big-game moments, and record against fellow top QBs into account, and I don't see anyone willing to jump out there on this ledge.
Herbert shouldn't be considered top 10 by any metric except talent. And that's not enough.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Jalen Hurts was a late season injury away from winning MVP when they didn't have Saquon Barkley.
in your babble about miles sanders, you didnt possibly think that a major part of sanders success could have been because of jalen? the "he went from philly to carolina" excuse doesnt fly when hubbard has looked SUBSTANTIALLY better than sanders did in that offense.
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
Thread is a good example of nba ring culture infecting football discourse. How much are yall actually watching any of his top 10 playing in these games? But because you watched a few playoff games casually you will jump off the top rope talking about this is disrespectful. If you casual say you casual and stop puffing your chest out like you know what your actually watching out there.
I tend to agree with most of his takes. He's extremely logical and isn't a hot take artist.
Did he have some issues during his career? Yes, but a lot of them were blown out of proportion and he was often made a scapegoat. What Antonio Brown ACTUALLY is, is what people used to try to make Owens out to be and he was nothing like that.
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KANG LIFE
Cam aint gonna rate no Bama QB that high
7 + pages and this all boils down to a College football rivalry
7 + pages and this all boils down to a College football rivalry
O.iatlhawksfan
Devoted Joel Embiid hater
Exactly what I been saying
Jalen Hurts had something to do with it, sure. But the main thing that changed for Sanders was that he stayed healthy and ultimately got 250 carries the year they went to the Super Bowl, as they had transitioned into a run-first team by then.
Go look at Sanders' numbers in Philly. Outside of scoring TDs, he had always been an efficient/productive back regardless of who was the QB. His usage went up in his contract year, and he showed out.
He goes to Carolina, and falls off the rails. Carolina's OL was garbage his first year there, and they had a rookie QB. The Panthers got the OL in better shape for last season but it was too late for Sanders, as Hubbard had already outperformed him. Perhaps Hubbard's always been good and just needed unquestioned starter reps to show it, as he was behind CMC and randomly D'Onta Foreman for the first couple of years.
Sanders' situation is not much different from any other player who does well in one situation and then sucks ass or takes a step back when he leaves said situation via trade or for more money, only for the new situation to not fit what he does well or not work out for whatever reason.
Le'Veon Bell, same thing. D'Andre Swift was a 1,000 yard rusher for Philly, went to Chicago, took a step back. Jordan Howard was a decent back for Chicago, got traded and never approached the success he had in Chicago again. That happens.
Yeah but Lamar and Allen are top 3 and elite. No one is saying he’s in that conversation. After those two and Mahomes/Burrow.. the next six sports are interchangeable depending on preference.
Hurts has a argument for being better than Dak Stafford Goff Herbert etc
VegetaKakashi24
Pro
All I know is if it was so easy to “game manage” this “Super Team” Kenny Pickett and Gardner Minshew would have more W‘s under their belts as starters when Hurts was injured. Jalen Hurts is crucial to the Eagles success in all facets. shyt we were up big in the 2nd Commanders game last season and the offense sputtered and we took an L with Jalen out.