Cam - "Jay aint fukk with Kanye till he blew, Dame is the only one that believed in him"

[YakSpiller]

Coli reruns.

 

[RennisDeynolds]

All this is common knowledge from the people mentioned themselves but bc Killa said it we gotta act like it's new info

 

[Grizzly]

This gotta be from an old ass interview if DJ Whoo Kidd is doing it

 

[Chris Cool]

Yet this exists:



^^^ this was the biggest look Kanye had as a rapper at this point. NOBODY was featuring Kanye at this point even on the songs he produced. Here is Jay featuring Kanye on a Timbo track. "Bu, bu, this was after Kanye was producing hit records". Kanye didn't have hit records before Jay's "Izzo".

Kanye ain't even get a feature credit for that.

 

[JustCKing]

Kanye ain't even get a feature credit for that.

People knew that was Kanye though. He even references "Takeover" in his verse.

 

[Chris Cool]

People knew that was Kanye though. He even references "Takeover" in his verse.

Nobody knew who Kanye was. It was 02, not 04. He was a nobody as a rapper.

 

[JustCKing]

Nobody knew who Kanye was. It was 02, not 04. He was a nobody as a rapper.

This was his first feature. This was people's introduction to him, yes. Still, people figured this was Kanye after hearing the verse. Late 2002, early 2003, Kanye had a tape out. Kanye was definitely known as a rapper before 2004. Some of what became College Dropout was on those early mixtapes.

 

[Chris Cool]

This was his first feature. This was people's introduction to him, yes. Still, people figured this was Kanye after hearing the verse. Late 2002, early 2003, Kanye had a tape out. Kanye was definitely known as a rapper before 2004. Some of what became College Dropout was on those early mixtapes.

Unless you're reading album credits, you have no idea who that is.

 

[JustCKing]

Unless you're reading album credits, you have no idea who that is.

What are you even arguing at this point? "The Bounce" was Kanye's debut as a rapper.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Nobody knew who Kanye was. It was 02, not 04. He was a nobody as a rapper.

He was featured on Clue mixtapes before this, and Dame also had him on the Paid In Full soundtrack on "Champions". That's when he introduced Kanye as "his" producer that could rap better than most rappers. So a year later, by the time he popped up on Jay's album, people knew who he was. He had a whole 30 minute MTV News interview talking about how he was rapping and working on his album.

All of this was before he was on Blueprint 2. Dude was out there grinding forever.

 

[Chris Cool]

What are you even arguing at this point? "The Bounce" was Kanye's debut as a rapper.

Yeah, and it was an uncredited debut that did absolutely nothing. You're making it seem like Jay was bending over backwards for him.

 

[JustCKing]

Yeah, and it was an uncredited debut that did absolutely nothing. You're making it seem like Jay was bending over backwards for him.

It was a feature. He didn't have to do that. Again, producers weren't getting looks like that. Jay may have done Kanye a solid by not putting "featuring Kanye" on it. Why? People would just skip the verse after Jay raps. Why? People had low expectations of the MC skills of producers who rapped. Without putting the feature on it. You listen to the song not knowing he has a verse. If you liked the verse, you wanted to hear more. If not, oh well. It also creates the mystique of "who's this"

 

[JustCKing]

Unless you're reading album credits, you have no idea who that is.

Album credits are there to be read, are they not?

 

[Chris Cool]

He was featured on Clue mixtapes before this, and Dame also had him on the Paid In Full soundtrack on "Champions". That's when he introduced Kanye as "his" producer that could rap better than most rappers. So a year later, by the time he popped up on Jay's album, people knew who he was. He had a whole 30 minute MTV News interview talking about how he was rapping and working on his album.

All of this was before he was on Blueprint 2. Dude was out there grinding forever.

wasn't no year later between paid in full and blueprint 2.

 

[Chris Cool]

It was a feature. He didn't have to do that. Again, producers weren't getting looks like that. Jay may have done Kanye a solid by not putting "featuring Kanye" on it. Why? People would just skip the verse after Jay raps. Why? People had low expectations of the MC skills of producers who rapped. Without putting the feature on it. You listen to the song not knowing he has a verse. If you liked the verse, you wanted to hear more. If not, oh well. It also creates the mystique of "who's this"