"Thats not a diss thats just the truth" Thats gonna be my new shyt 
Cam'ron going on IG live @ 9PM ET to address Jimmy "Just cause you cry, doesn't make it true"
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prince_peoples
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keepitrealprk
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wow, this history and all these stories are incredible. i'm like halfway through part 3 of 7 and can't turn it off. 
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talk to Chubbie Baby or Big Joe they would knowSomeone get these dudes on my podcast@The HONORABLE SKJ you know anything about these stories?
About his intentions. There's two ways to snake a nikka in your crew out of money, one way is to give him a shytty contract, he did that with Juelz, another way is to not give him a contract at all. That way you can shrug it off and say just be happy that I'm even giving you these crumbs out the goodness of my heart nikka coz we don't have paperwork.
Nobody can tell me Jimmy wasn't front and centre with the Dips.
Secondly, Cam tryna play off the issue of copywriting the Byrdgang shyt, if that ain't some petty ass snake shyt I don't know what is. Only reason he would even do that shyt is to son that nikka like he did with the t-shirt shyt. You know this nikka trying to eat, let him eat.
At the end of the dayyou can tell this nikka Cam prefers to boss these nikkas around and when they push back he tries to belittle them.
fukk all them nikkas though, I never rocked with that whole crew anyway. All cornballs if you ask me
He has been setting Jim up to eat since '98. I can't buy bs "hating on Jim's success" narratives. Cam wouldn't be saying anything if Jim didn't make the Flex interview about him. Everyone under the core Dipset umbrella put projects out, and had a chance to eat. Cam didn't use all their creative energy for his projects.
Everyone under the Byrdgang umbrella.........................................................................
That "boss people around and belittle them when they push back" pretty much applies to the leader of every crew. What did Jim do when he had his "Byrdgang" crew?
Shameonyou
All Star
We ain't grow up together tho.
just cuz u in a pic with a nikka from your childhood dont mean shyt...its just a picture...they could have been in two different lanes until their 20s hit
DontEemTry
Superstar
I don't know what Jim did for them Byrdgang nikkas because like I said, all them dipset nikkas is some corny nikkas, Cam and Jimmy included.
They both telling their side of the story and they both twisting the truth
Cam was pretty understated for the first half and the second half just decided to put Jim through the tables
can't front, it felt weird watching that Mandecees part as it was happening.
saw someone on twitter say Jim has to snuff Cam just to get that respect back. got to say i agree with that to an extent.
i do feel like theres more to the Chrissy shyt than just a t-shirt and some jokes.
Jim mighta found out she tried to snag Killa..either way, she's caused him to have problems with people in his life.
the copywriting Byrdgang shyt was strategic planning and grimey at the same time.
you can tell he's annoyed he never saw Max potential and that his mans rotting in jail. especially with Max asking him to get him away from Jim.
i wonder what Stacks people think of that comment about "maybe if you put one of his projects out then..." and alluding he might still be living.
Cam says he had no paperwork with any of them apart from Juelz so they could all eat.
but didn't he exec produce most of their albums ? you need paperwork for that do you not ?
sounds like the only person he wasn't eating off was his day one and that was Duke Da God.
Jim didn't go OT and get money with em. Zeke was out in Ohio and other places running the club (wink, wink) lovely for Cam
thats why he wasn't on the cover of Diploamts Vol.1
seemed like everybody that was affiliated with Dipset from that time that was on there commenting were all co-siging Cam.
i do agree Jim went and put all his cards on the table on Flex to justify making the surprise move to Roc Nation.
as much as Jim was a rebel and all that he loves being in the industry mix, Roc Nation will bring him back in.
Cam don't care about that shyt.
i like what he said about being 40 now...times for him to kick back and do some cool, fun things and the rap stuff as extra.
"he emotional...he cries. i'd be watching it saying don't let that tear fall"
and then when he was finishing and said he was going to try and shed a tear ahaha
and to finish it off with "i still love you" after shytting on him for a couple of hours is pure Harlem/Cam
everytime he did an impression of somebody it was funny and close to the mark.
Jim, Jay, Max ("Killa i rap now, we gonna get shyt clicking like Dorothys Heels"), Alan Grumblat, DJ Envy, 50
regardless of what people thought about what he was saying...this was a good look for Cam.
it showed he still has that spark of some classic moments in him.
50K + viewers..with people having fun in the comments. he didn't let any radio station get his views, the radio people were all watching enjoying it, Cam is already in negotiations about a tv show and this could hep him.
can't front, it felt weird watching that Mandecees part as it was happening.
saw someone on twitter say Jim has to snuff Cam just to get that respect back. got to say i agree with that to an extent.
i do feel like theres more to the Chrissy shyt than just a t-shirt and some jokes.
Jim mighta found out she tried to snag Killa..either way, she's caused him to have problems with people in his life.
the copywriting Byrdgang shyt was strategic planning and grimey at the same time.
you can tell he's annoyed he never saw Max potential and that his mans rotting in jail. especially with Max asking him to get him away from Jim.
i wonder what Stacks people think of that comment about "maybe if you put one of his projects out then..." and alluding he might still be living.
Cam says he had no paperwork with any of them apart from Juelz so they could all eat.
but didn't he exec produce most of their albums ? you need paperwork for that do you not ?
sounds like the only person he wasn't eating off was his day one and that was Duke Da God.
Jim didn't go OT and get money with em. Zeke was out in Ohio and other places running the club (wink, wink) lovely for Cam
thats why he wasn't on the cover of Diploamts Vol.1
seemed like everybody that was affiliated with Dipset from that time that was on there commenting were all co-siging Cam.
i do agree Jim went and put all his cards on the table on Flex to justify making the surprise move to Roc Nation.
as much as Jim was a rebel and all that he loves being in the industry mix, Roc Nation will bring him back in.
Cam don't care about that shyt.
i like what he said about being 40 now...times for him to kick back and do some cool, fun things and the rap stuff as extra.
"he emotional...he cries. i'd be watching it saying don't let that tear fall"
and then when he was finishing and said he was going to try and shed a tear ahaha
and to finish it off with "i still love you" after shytting on him for a couple of hours is pure Harlem/Cam
everytime he did an impression of somebody it was funny and close to the mark.
Jim, Jay, Max ("Killa i rap now, we gonna get shyt clicking like Dorothys Heels"), Alan Grumblat, DJ Envy, 50
regardless of what people thought about what he was saying...this was a good look for Cam.
it showed he still has that spark of some classic moments in him.
50K + viewers..with people having fun in the comments. he didn't let any radio station get his views, the radio people were all watching enjoying it, Cam is already in negotiations about a tv show and this could hep him.
oh and Jay-Z comes out of this ordeal looking teflon again.
Jim is now on his team and giving him respect and playing down any wrong doing Jay might have had in what kicked off the beef
Cam gave him respect and reaffirmed he was getting that money before rap.
Dame had Cam and Duke doing gopher shyt as teens dropping things off at Jay cirb.
how the hell couldn't two of my favorite NY getting money OT hustlers turned legendary rappers get along
no wonder Dame looks at Jay like
now.
Dame was talking about having record labels and sport agencies at 15 and Jay his old partner is the one thats doing it lovely.
Jim is now on his team and giving him respect and playing down any wrong doing Jay might have had in what kicked off the beef
Cam gave him respect and reaffirmed he was getting that money before rap.
Dame had Cam and Duke doing gopher shyt as teens dropping things off at Jay cirb.
how the hell couldn't two of my favorite NY getting money OT hustlers turned legendary rappers get along
no wonder Dame looks at Jay like
now.Dame was talking about having record labels and sport agencies at 15 and Jay his old partner is the one thats doing it lovely.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
I'm sure I'm not the only one trying to figure out how Cam finna get up from that table, let alone how he sat down
I swear cam / dipset fans are some of the most delusional rap fans around, and this coming from a former gunit fan. Lol dudes gonna act like every rapper now that goes on instagram live bit it from cam
and unless you was like 5 when dipset was popping or from the burbs you already heard 95% of these stories that cam and Jim shared This scenario played itself out a bunch of years ago right before that failed dipset reunion, cam and Jimmy beef flared up they went on radio shared a bunch of old stories etc
Cam is done too, no one outside the small dipset minority is checking for him, Cam is a hustler and imo music doesn't seem to be his main concern these days
End of the day though, Cam is in the hiphop Hall of fame, Jim isn't.
Facts I picked up on that too..he basically said max stayed in his same building so he knew max way better than Jim knew him which kinda hindered him from taking Max serious as a rapper since all cam know max for is being on the block doing block shyt....
On a side note i had no idea rappers was getting that kind of money off the jump.10 Mill for Ma$e out the gate? 
I know his album did well but damn.For all the talk about Puffys snaking his peoples this is a head scratcher.
If Ma$e got 10 Milly.Think about how much bread B.I.G. must have been getting.
I know his album did well but damn.For all the talk about Puffys snaking his peoples this is a head scratcher.
If Ma$e got 10 Milly.Think about how much bread B.I.G. must have been getting
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