Can Black Women Transcend Racial Barriers by distancing themselves from the Vilified Black Man?

[ultraflexed]

what you seem not to understand is that white supremacy is still an issue, regardless of who is doing the child rearing.

until you address the root and not the symptom, these circular conversations will continue.

not everything can be blamed on white supremacy, I don't think anyone woman who came from a 2 parent home where the child distances themselves from black men or black people, in homes where both parents are black. it's how you raise your kids, the values you instill in them, the parents will have the majority of influence on there own kids

 

[SupremexKing]

not everything can be blamed on white supremacy, I don't think anyone woman who came from a 2 parent home where the child distances themselves from black men or black people, in homed where both parents are black. it's how you raise your kids, the values you instill in them, the parents will have the majority of influence on there own kids

you need to reformat this statement so i can understand what im responding to

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

do you know what would kill all of this?
it's very simple...

here is the answer= black men raise your kids.
if the single mother is left to raise the kids on her own she will raise them how she sees fit good or bad.

black men raise your kids.../thread

It would be that simple if it wasn’t for the prison industrial complex and these damn child support court cases now would it?

And negged

 

[Strapped]

No.

Lies

 

[Vice Queen]

Lies

 

[ezrathegreat]

Yes and they have been for a while. A large portion of black women see themselves as women first, black second. Not knocking them, but it is what it is. Every group and sub group except black men, look out for their own personal interests first and others second. The sooner black men as a whole realize this, the better off we will be.

 

[SupremexKing]

Yes and they have been for a while. A large portion of black women see themselves as women first, black second. Not knocking them but it is what it is. Every group and sub group execpt black men look out for their own personal interests first and others second. The sooner black men as a whole realize this, the better off we will be.

how will we create more black men without black women?

 

[ezrathegreat]

Can't. You can't help future generations of black men or black people with black women only looking out for themselves. What you can do is to network with and support black men and boys who are already here to live to the highest quality of they can attain.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

This seems like a bait and switch. It's one of the most irritating issues I see on this forum...this dizzying rate at which we easily blame black women for things their men are actually doing in far greater numbers.

Last time I checked, blk women weren't holding parties and banning blk men from them. Or marrying and cohabitating and fukking with non-blks at double the rate of the opposite sex of their counterparts, or anything in the like.

What do bwgtow movements look like? What do blk female red pillers look like?

Blk chicks are dippin their toes in waters that brothas been swimming in since the end of the Black is Beautiful era. But somehow, thru some strange mumbo jumbo bro magic...blk women are the scapegoats yet again.

Blk women aren't distancing themselves from blk men. Vocal blk men have made the stance that they don't want us or that we just need to compete with other women for them despite their unwillingness to work for their own women in return. Moreover the same men are also anti-marriage, anti-family and anti-blk ANYTHING positive about their women. Blk women aren't distancing themselves, they just aren't following men who have other preferences. In a sense, they aren't distancing themselves, they are letting go. Birth rates are going down.

And ironically, the very men who hate blk women and denigrate them, use racist stereotypes and weaponize community issues like OOW rates to demonized only blk females...are the same ones who also can't stand the idea of blk women going anywhere. Here's a novel idea. Instead of always worrying about what others are doing, how bout blk men worry about fixing themselves and blk women worry about fixing themselves as well.

I honestly don't know what chip is on either group's shoulder that makes them think they have the right to sneer or look down their noses at each other. shyt is baffling.

 

[Gravity]

So the only thing men have to do to stop this is having unprotected sex with irresponsible women. If that's the only thing men can do why not start there? Don't be careless with your seed then absolve your group of the issue of fatherlessness.

You’re the one trying to absolve women tho. You quoted me talking about the responsibility that women have, just to deflect back on to black men.

Y’all don’t take responsibility for anything because that’s how society has engineered it. Black men ALWAYS get blamed for the single mother trend. We’ve gotten so much blame that it’s a stereotype. Black women have been mostly painted as victims when they’re not. That’s my point here. You’re proof of how we’ve been framing this issue all wrong. Putting most/all of the blame for single mothers isn’t fair, accurate, nor is it conducive to solving the problem. We’ve got to be honest and start holding black women accountable. Black womwn have been choosing to be single mothers. That’s a fact.

 

[ultraflexed]

You’re the one trying to absolve women tho. You quoted me talking about the responsibility that women have, just to deflect back on to black men.

Y’all don’t take responsibility for anything because that’s how society has engineered it. Black men ALWAYS get blamed for the single mother trend. We’ve gotten so much blame that it’s a stereotype. Black women have been mostly painted as victims when they’re not. That’s my point here. You’re proof of how we’ve been framing this issue all wrong. Putting most/all of the blame for single mothers isn’t fair, accurate, nor is it conducive to solving the problem. We’ve got to be honest and start holding black women accountable. Black womwn have been choosing to be single mothers. That’s a fact.

The guy you qouted is correct, black women fault but so do black men.
if men know
1). white sempremacy structure
2). the court system always rule in favor of women regarding children regardless of color.

if you know these things and you still get a women pregnant that you
1). just wanna sex from
or
2). not ready have a kid but didn't want to use protection.

then you face the consequences that come with it, and there is No Excuse!!
how are black women absolved when they carry the burden of raising the child alone

excluding the men that are in jail, if the data says the black are not raising there kids and 80% of black women who have kids raise them alone then that's what it is, even if we removed 20% for men who can't help because there in jail that's 60%, that's a high number no matter how you slice it.

both sides are at fault, and black women look no better then the men do in this situation

 

[Lotsford]

You’re the one trying to absolve women tho. You quoted me talking about the responsibility that women have, just to deflect back on to black men.

Y’all don’t take responsibility for anything because that’s how society has engineered it. Black men ALWAYS get blamed for the single mother trend. We’ve gotten so much blame that it’s a stereotype. Black women have been mostly painted as victims when they’re not. That’s my point here. You’re proof of how we’ve been framing this issue all wrong. Putting most/all of the blame for single mothers isn’t fair, accurate, nor is it conducive to solving the problem. We’ve got to be honest and start holding black women accountable. Black womwn have been choosing to be single mothers. That’s a fact.

A woman would not get pregnant if a man doesn't nut in her. You have to go out of your way to penetrate her, unprotected, then not pull out. Why not just not do that and put an end to the whole thing? If you think welfare queens are so willing to be single moms and rely on the state instead of their man, which according to you is one of their 2 options if the man is unwilling to take care of the child, don't bust in welfare queens. They can't have a child without you doing that.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Then they have babies..think they can raise men by themselves,and end up not doing it..

I don't have any numbers but these so uncalled "crappy men" they're dealing with most likely raised by a single mom, or shytty parents in general. We are products of our environment...look at the young goons today.

Sick of putting the blame on men, when to keep it a buck most of them never really had great parenting. Break up the family unit, promote women's rights and independent women and this leads to what we have today. No fukking shyt you're not happy with the men right now...thank the government for helping contribute since pretty much the end of slavery,and society as a whole fukking getting worse. Take the man out of the picture and you don't get men..you get men influenced by society,mom and other outside influences. If there are no good role models to look up to then

All this shyt seems like a part of satan's plan.

 

[Y2Dre]

Yes, and the shyt is happening under our noses.

Their attitude is that they'd rather be pets than food (Black men).

 

[SNG]

ask those ladies what their relationship with there father is......i can almost guarantee you that either they have close to no relationship with there father or he wasn' t there at all

That's not always the case. A lot of c00ns and wencher are made from a two parent home and grew up middle class and sheltered from black people and the majority of people that surround them are white. My cousins grew up middle class had there father around them who is a great example of black excellence and still caught the wench bullet.
I remember her telling me that she would never date a black guy and that they were gross. She loved white boys though.