Can bucks and wenches be reformed?

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How can you tell someone else that they hate themselves?

This whole 'self-hate' nonsense seems to be nothing more than a shaming tactic mixed with a bit of projection.
 

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Ir? Oh interracial dating. No. Ok so to clarify bucks and wenches only date out and constantly complain about or disparage other black people as their reason for doing so. If you date IR I don't consider you a buck or wench. Just when you bash and use that as a reasoning to date out.

okay, I see where you're coming from and agree. Still, that begs another question, what were the circumstances that lead up to and created the wench/buck? I mean, to find a cure, or to reform, one still has to determine where it all went wrong. We're a damaged people hate to say. We damage ourselves often enough, and that's bound to create some folks among our own who at a certain point just say, "fukk it, I'm out."
 

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How can you tell someone else that they hate themselves?

This whole 'self-hate' nonsense seems to be nothing more than a shaming tactic mixed with a bit of projection.
What you just said doesn't track. How can I be projecting or any of us? How can you tell someone they hate themselves? You can't tell me I'm projecting something you can't confirm.
 

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And you can confirm someone else hates themselves, how?
If they bleach their skin or say black people *insert negative comment here* I've actually witnessed some one say this in undergrad. The funny thing is when you're black and say black people *insert negative comment here* You are also lumping yourself in there too something I had to remind said person of.
 

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okay, I see where you're coming from and agree. Still, that begs another question, what were the circumstances that lead up to and created the wench/buck? I mean, to find a cure, or to reform, one still has to determine where it all went wrong. We're a damaged people hate to say. We damage ourselves often enough, and that's bound to create some folks among our own who at a certain point just say, "fukk it, I'm out."
Thank you. This is where I want this to go. What happened? How'd we get here? How do we fix it?
 

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If they bleach their skin or say black people *insert negative comment here* I've actually witnessed some one say this in undergrad. The funny thing is when you're black and say black people *insert negative comment here* You are also lumping yourself in there too something I had to remind said person of.
There's nothing wrong with critiquing or criticizing one's own race. People are not above reproach.

This, again, goes back to what I was saying about shaming tactics.. That's what seems to be at the core of all of this.
 

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They made there choice. Why must we try to reform them anyway. Let em find out the hard way or let them live there lie. We got to get that out our collective mind of saving people. Especially those that don't deserve saving
 

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There's nothing wrong with critiquing or criticizing one's own race. People are not above reproach.

This, again, goes back to what I was saying about shaming tactics.. That's what seems to be at the core of all of this.
Let me clarify. Using blanket statements regarding criminal activity for all black people isn't a critique. I've never committed a crime in my life nor had she but she felt compelled to make a blanket statement regarding said issue. But you tell it though. You were there so you know what went down.
 
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