Can Cody Zeller be an NBA star? Next year's draft is :garbage:

[#1 pick]

Where exactly are you getting your information from?

I did a lot of scouting back then. Rose came into that class as one of the highest rated prospects but DeAndre Jordan was highest rated before the season started as well. Rose had to earn his stripes.

im talking about the college season.


And Blake was seen as the number one pick throughout 2008-9 season.

I am too

Griffin's freshman year is what I am referring to. He was the consensus #1 pick the whole year his Soph year.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I did a lot of scouting back then. Rose came into that class as one of the highest rated prospects but DeAndre Jordan was highest rated before the season started as well. Rose had to earn his stripes.

No you didn't.

When was Rose projected to ever fall mid-to-late in the 1st round? And when was Rose not listed as a top prospect?

 

[#1 pick]

No you didn't.

When was Rose projected to ever fall mid-to-late in the 1st round? And when was Rose not listed as a top prospect?

smh, you are starting to waste my time. I mention numerous times that's where I had him as well as scouts I spoke to. You talk to the scouts I talk to son?

Look at the wages of wins.
An Early Look at the 2008 NBA Draft

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

smh, you are starting to waste my time. I mention numerous times that's where I had him as well as scouts I spoke to. You talk to the scouts I talk to son?

Look at the wages of wins.
An Early Look at the 2008 NBA Draft

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That article is inconsequential to your argument. Where is your proof Rose dropped off from being 'top 5' to not mentioned at all (mid-to-late)? And where is your proof Rose was never listed as a top prospect?

DraftExpress - NBA Draft, NCAA/International Basketball Website. - Rose avg #5 ranking through 7 main s-boards.

I remember clearly, Rose was NEVER EVER a mid-to-late projected pick at any point from leaving Simeon to actual draft day. The general consensus was Rose was always lotto-bound; you and your so-called 'scouts' (♫Life's like a hurricane, here in Duckburg♫) that shared the same opinion were in the minority.

 

[PHamm]

No he can't be a star and he will not be picked higher then 3. He is a 14pt 8rb guy on good percentages. High Floor/Low Ceiling

never doubt Brian Colangelo

 

[PTBG]

Top talent evaluators from around the NBA expressed pessimism about the 2013 draft in general and the No. 1 pick in particular.

"I'd trade the pick for sure," one NBA GM said. "No one wants to pick first this year -- and no one can live up to the No. 1 billing."

"It's the worst it's ever been," said another.

"I'm glad we won't be picking at the top," added one director of player personnel.

Cody Zeller is the consensus choice for the top spot, even though he possesses short arms and plays subpar defense.

"He'll never be a great NBA player," one NBA scouting director said.

 

[tremonthustler1]

"I'm glad we won't be picking at the top," added one director of player personnel.

Guaranteed this came from Golden State.

 

[PTBG]

Nerlens Noel is the early favorite to grab the No. 1 spot overall in the 2013 NBA draft.

“There just isn’t a player that’s out there that has his upside,” said Chad Ford, ESPN’s NBA draft analyst. “Nerlens isn’t like Anthony Davis last year where every person agreed … but to me he’s got the best shot of being the No. 1 pick. The majority of NBA guys that I speak to have him there.”

Noel is averaging 10.7 points, 9.0 rebounds, 3.9 blocks, 2.8 steals and 2.1 assists -- numbers reminiscent of Davis' effort over the first quarter of last season in Kentucky.

But despite his top prospect status, Noel will be one of the more debated 2013 picks because he has elite athleticism and a high motor for the game but lacks offensive versatility.

“The way that some made it sound coming in was that he was going to struggle, and I don’t really think he’s struggled," Ford said. "He clearly doesn’t have a polished offensive game, but he’s found ways to score the basketball.

“When you talk to the sabermetric (advanced stat) guys in the NBA, they will say that Noel, along with Cody Zeller, are the guys,” Ford added. “When you pick up blocks and steals at that rate together, that is the biggest statistical indicator of elite athleticism. And that’s probably what carries Noel to the No. 1 pick.”

 

[mastermind]

I want Shabazz

 

[Malta]

I like Alex Len's game, he's got an offensive game like Brook Lopez, just not as stiff.

 

[mastermind]

I like Alex Len's game, he's got an offensive game like Brook Lopez, just not as stiff.

he the best big man in this draft

and he is only getting bigger. He gained about 30 lbs this offseason

And his skillset


Selfishly I hope dude stays another year, but he has a chance to go either 1 or 2. He is going to shyt on Mason Plumlee and then there will be nothing to stop him.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

I want Shabazz

I dont see anytging that stands out about him..he might score some points in the nba while shooting around 40% from the field if that gets you off

A saw a quote where every scout at his game last week said hes a lefty version of Oj Mayo

I think Mclemore and Goodwin have higher uspides

 

[Loose]

len the gawd is the best big in the NCAA i hope scouts dont notice

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

I like Alex Len's game, he's got an offensive game like Brook Lopez, just not as stiff.

Does that mean he starts his post game by the 3 point line?

 

[Malta]

he the best big man in this draft

and he is only getting bigger. He gained about 30 lbs this offseason

And his skillset


Selfishly I hope dude stays another year, but he has a chance to go either 1 or 2. He is going to shyt on Mason Plumlee and then there will be nothing to stop him.

I been watching him and his moves in the post have me like


Nice polished post game, and he's not stiff like Brook, looks to be a good athlete for a 7 footer.

He's gone breh, dude is pretty much a lock for top 5.