Can someone point to me just ONE year where Jay was hands down the hottest rapper?

[NSSVO]

@ y'all ability to make the same thread every week with different wording.

 

[Da King]

It's been around 24 hrs since this thread topic was made so I'm glad @BrothaZay made it

 

[Ziggiy]

It's been around 24 hrs since this thread topic was made so I'm glad @BrothaZay made it

Maybe we'll get a "Nas Lost" thread going to make the cypher complete

 

[FlyRy]

Dmx was opening for Jay-z on Jays tour, Jay had 1 album selling as much as 2(!) Dmx albums and Jay had hit singles + the fact that his second album dropped in the last week of 98.

Eminem didn't release anything in 2001, MMLP came out in like the beginning of 2000.

50 cent didn't release anything in 2006 except the g-unit movie album which was ass and dropped in November 2005.

2009, the fukk did Wayne do?


If you 3 year old nikkas wanna come with arguments at least know your damn history.
2009 was Jay vs Em, 2001 was Jay vs Ja and 2006 Jay vs Tip. Now you Nas Stans might wanna tell yourselves that just cause never was close to being the hottest, Jay wasn't either.. Sorry.

all of THIS.. its easy to see who was actually old enough at that time and who is using google (and failing at it).

 

[really]

That's only because he's almost in every damn song on the radio.

Ok... Ok... sorry.... I aint mean to laugh...... Let me try and break something down to you cus I don't know if you 18, 13 or 30.... ( I pray to GOD you not above 16)...



You see..... This thing called the "radio", is all pretty much controlled by ONE conglomerate.... CLEAR CHANNEL

Clear Channel, is in business for ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY..... to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Clear Channel makes money, by having advertisers pay for advertising spots....


THE MORE PEOPLE LISTENING TO THE RADIO.... THE MORE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ CLEAR CHANNEL CAN CHARGE THESE ADVERTISERS FOR ADVERTISING SPOTS......


You following me???


IF WAYNE IS ON EVERY SONG ON THE RADIO.... THAT MEANS IT'S CUS PEOPLE WANT TO LISTEN TO HIM.... EVERY ARTIST WANTS HIM ON THEIR SONG.... BECAUSE HE'S BRINGING THEM INTEREST AND CLEAR CHANNEL IS GOING TO PLAY ALL HIS SONGS BECAUSE ITS BRINGING IN THE MOST LISTENERS WHICH MEANS WAYNE IS BRINGING IN THE MOST MONEY$$$$$$$$..............


Short version?: IF there is EVER an indication of how HOT a Rapper is, it's how much they are on RADIO..... I don't give a fukk if NONE OF THEM is his songs.... This may be an even bigger indicator than ALBUM SALES...

Again, I pray to GOD you 16 or younger, just a lil naive..... If you 19+... I'll pray for you bruh... it's gonna be a rough road ahead...


#FactsOnly

 

[the rhyme king]

2001 and 1998 probably.

DMX apex of popularity was 1999-2000

1998 in terms of qaulity music and sales dmx was biggier in terms of popularity.

 

[RajWatts]

mtv.com/news/articles/1622982/jay-z-hottest-mc-game.jhtml

Jay-Z Is The Hottest MC In The Game!
Hov's new music, business acumen and vast influence lift him above all others in 2009.

2009 Rank: #1
Previous rankings: 2007 (#7); 2008 (#2)

Why He's Hot: He's had the most acclaimed career in rap history. But even with all that lore, all that respect, all that prestige and all that money, Jay-Z continues to add luster to his legacy with time-transcending music, multiple successful business ventures and his dominant influence over the game.

MTV News' Greatest MC of All Time is 2009's Hottest MC in the Game. Hov isn't just an elite MC that pushes the culture, the Brooklyn native is the standard-bearer, the leader, a source of inspiration and aspirations — Hov's the guy we all look to see how far hip-hop can go. And what a ride Shawn Carter has taken us on this year, from Presidential inaugural balls back his Brooklyn 'hood (where he was accompanied by Oprah Winfrey) ,and he even found time to take us to the world's most famous arena — Madison Square Garden — for a charity concert featuring historic gathering of musical guests. He also surpassed Elvis Presley to become the solo act with the most #1 albums in Billboard history with 11.

Being authentic with your raps and having credibility is as precious as legal tender in hip-hop. Jay is money in the bank. Lyrically he says what no other truth-speaking MC can; his experiences are that great and unique. No wonder his swagga is never at less than level 10.

"Meanwhile, I had Oprah chillin' in the projects," he raps on "On to the Next One," from his highly touted latest LP, Blueprint 3."Had her out in Bed-Stuy, chillin' on the steps/ Drinkin' quarter waters, gotta be the best/ MJ [Michael Jackson] at Summer Jam, Obama on the text/ Y'all should be afraid of what I'm gon' do next."

On "Already Home," he separates himself from the pack again. "I'm in the Hall [of fame] already, on the wall already/ I'm a work of art, I'm a Warhol already/ On another level, on another plane already/ H-O-V, I got my own lane already/ I done cooked up the rock already/ So why the f--- can't ya'll get hot already/ Put your name in the pot already, n---as compare me to Biggie and Pac already."

Blueprint 3 is another Hov tour de force -- and it destroys the myth that there's an age limit on being a dope MC. At 39 years old, Jay is arguably still better than anybody on the mic today, rhyming with precision and grace. He throws buzzsaws right from the gate on the intro "What We Talking About," where he raps about what he deems to be nonsense, like dwelling on rap beef.

"D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune)"was this year's ultimate statement record, with General Jay once again rallying the troops in rap to be more forward-thinking, not follow trends and be more original. Producer No I.D.'s bassline and now-signature guitar licks were almost as brutal as the Jiggaman's honesty. And the rhymes were so hardcore yet provocative that the record, which came out in June, caused immediate controversy that is still being debated months later. "D.O.A." fostered conversation with the entire hip-hop community, and if you notice, the usage of Auto-Tune by singers and rappers has slowed down.

B3 could have been another Blueprint part one, but Jay prides himself on evolving both sonically and lyrically. The album is a reflection of Jay's world right now: "Off That," with its Euro/ techno feel, vanquishes current trends and looks toward the future, while "Empire State of Mind" --performed at the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards -- is a Bentley cruise down memory lane, where he and Alicia Keys sing a love song to their hometown.

The promo campaign surrounding Blueprint 3 has been unprecedented, even for Jay-Z. He's done interviews with just about every media outlet — from Funkmaster Flex to Oprah Winfrey (and really, who else could get Oprah to walk through the projects in Brooklyn with a bright smile?) from "Le Grand Journal" in France to "TVTotal" in Germany. In between, he's toured and made high-profile TV appearances on the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards and his historic 9/11 charity concert at Madison Square Garden, which featured Beyoncé, Diddy, Rihanna, Kanye West and others, and raised money for the families of police and firefighters killed in the 2001 terrorist attacks.

It all worked. Jay's LP -- which was released three days early due to being leaked -- debuted at #1 on the Billboard albums chart, selling close to a half million copies in its first week, and held down the top spot in its second week, moving another 200,000 copies. Meanwhile both "Run This Town" and "Empire State of Mind" are both top 10 Billboard Hot 100 singles.

Jay-Z is also the epitome of an entertainment mogul. His Roc Nation company doesn't just put out records, it also has a music-publishing division and markets and manages artists such as up-and-coming rapper Wale. He owns or co-owns a successful clothing line (Rocawear), a basketball team (the New Jersey Nets), a nightclub (the 40/40 Club), a restaurant and much more. Add to that, he was the #1 Hip-Hop Cash King on Forbes magazine's annual list, having earned an estimated $35 million -- down a reported 57 percent from last year!

Hov is the Hottest MC right now not just because of his talent -- he tells everyone the sky is the limit and proves it time and time again.

Co-Signer: Mary J. Blige "My favorite MC right now: Jay-Z. Forever more it will be Jay-Z. Jay-Z's raised all these kids: the Drakes, the Lil Waynes. I love and respect them because they respect him for giving that gift. Jay-Z is definitely at the top of my list. That's why we love him, he keeps going and elevating and blessing the new generation. You can't lose like that."

Ignitable Incitement: "All my music and emotions is based off real truth," Jay said recently. "I believe that's why I'm here and still competing for VMA nominations and Grammys every year. [Eleven] #1 albums in a row -- that's not something you can doctor. I can make the greatest marketing plan in the world ... but I can't make that happen unless that's some truth under there."

Blistering Ballistics: "A hundred million to the good and I'm still talkin' yayo/ At a snail's pace I won this race that y'all trail/ Uh, uh, Blueprint's for sale/ Followin' my footprints, you can't fail/ Set sail, I used to duck shots but now I eat quail/ I'll probably never see jail/ Each tale contains more of the truth/ Of the statue allows me to go into detail/ Uh, close your eyes you can smell/ Hov's the audio equivalent of Braille/ That's why they feel me in the favelas in Brazil/ And Waterhouse, 'cause real recognize real." (from "Real As It Gets")

Hot Streak:

Album: The Blueprint 3

Selected Mixtapes: N/A

Singles: "Run This Town" (featuring Kanye West and Rihanna), "D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune)," "Empire State of Mind" (featuring Alicia Keys), "Swagga Like Us" (with T.I., featuring Kanye West and Lil Wayne)

Street Bangers: "Brooklyn Go Hard," "On to the Next One," "Off That" (featuring Drake), "Hate" (featuring Kanye West)

Key Guest Appearances: Lil Wayne's "Mr. Carter," Young Jeezy's "My President" remix, Fabolous' "Money Goes, Honey Stay," DJ Khaled's "Go Hard" remix (also featuring T-Pain), Coldplay's "Lost+."

Meteoric Metrics: 11: the number of Billboard #1 albums Jay-Z has had during his career -- more than Elvis Presley, second only to the Beatles
1: Jay's position on Forbes magazine's Rap Cash Kings List (with $35 million)

Business Ventures: Roc Nation label/ management/ music publishing (including Young Chris, Wale and J. Cole), Rocawear clothing line, owner of 40/40 Club in New York, co-owner of Spotted Pig restaurant, partial owner of Carol's Daughter beauty line, partial of owner of New Jersey Nets, endorsement deal with Hewlett Packard.

Tours: Summer dates with Ciara, Lupe Fiasco and Fabolous; 9/11 charity show at Madison Square Garden (with guests Diddy, Beyoncé, Kanye West, Rihanna, Kid Cudi, John Mayer and others); six-week tour with N.E.R.D., Wale and J. Cole begins October 9

Monumental Moment: Performing at President Obama's Inaugural Ball, which once again proved hip-hop has no boundaries

 

[FlyRy]

Ok... Ok... sorry.... I aint mean to laugh...... Let me try and break something down to you cus I don't know if you 18, 13 or 30.... ( I pray to GOD you not above 16)...



You see..... This thing called the "radio", is all pretty much controlled by ONE conglomerate.... CLEAR CHANNEL

Clear Channel, is in business for ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY..... to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Clear Channel makes money, by having advertisers pay for advertising spots....


THE MORE PEOPLE LISTENING TO THE RADIO.... THE MORE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ CLEAR CHANNEL CAN CHARGE THESE ADVERTISERS FOR ADVERTISING SPOTS......


You following me???


IF WAYNE IS ON EVERY SONG ON THE RADIO.... THAT MEANS IT'S CUS PEOPLE WANT TO LISTEN TO HIM.... EVERY ARTIST WANTS HIM ON THEIR SONG.... BECAUSE HE'S BRINGING THEM INTEREST AND CLEAR CHANNEL IS GOING TO PLAY ALL HIS SONGS BECAUSE ITS BRINGING IN THE MOST LISTENERS WHICH MEANS WAYNE IS BRINGING IN THE MOST MONEY$$$$$$$$..............


Short version?: IF there is EVER an indication of how HOT a Rapper is, it's how much they are on RADIO..... I don't give a fukk if NONE OF THEM is his songs.... This may be an even bigger indicator than ALBUM SALES...

Again, I pray to GOD you 16 or younger, just a lil naive..... If you 19+... I'll pray for you bruh... it's gonna be a rough road ahead...


#FactsOnly

wayne stans can throw all the BS stats out they want.. he has thousands of songs and not one classic SINGLE.. ZERO. your biggest song ever is lollipop?

whose gonna wanna hear that 10 years from now?

#factsonly

 

[DontEemTry]

Ayo, first I snatched the streets then I snatched the charts
First I had they ear, now I have their heart
Rappers came and went, I've been here from the start
I seen them put it together, watched them take it apart
Seen the rovers roll up with ribbons
I seen them re-po'd, re-sold, then re-driven
So when I reload, he holds #1 position
When you hot I'm hot
And when your feet cold, mines is sizzling
It's plain to see, nikkas can't fukk with me
Cause I'm a be that nikka for life
This is not an image, this is God given
This is hard livin', mixed with Cristal sippin'
It's the most consistent, Hov
Give you the most hits you can fit inside a whole disc and
nikka I'm home on these charts, y'all nikkas visitin'
It's Hov tradition, Jeff Gordon of rap
I'm back to claim pole position, holla at ya boy


Realest shyt he ever spit.

 

[Digga38]

Let me go ahead and throw this out there for the cats that run to the "longevity / consistency" argument (their last ditch ever to construct a decent argument for Jay)..



------------------------------------------------
TOTAL RUSHING YARDS CAREER:
------------------------------------------------
Emmit Smith - 18,355
Barry Sanders - 15,269
Jim Brown - 12,312



YARDS PER CARRY FOR CAREER:
-------------------------------------------------
Jim Brown - 5.2
Barry Sanders - 5.0
Emmit Smith - 4.2



Barry Sanders = Retired early, 10 years in the league
Jim Brown = Retired Early, 9 years in the league
Emmit Smith = Stayed passed his prime, 15 years in the league.




100000% of the world recognizes both Jim Brown and Barry Sanders as greater than Emmitt Smith



----------------------------------------

TOTAL CAREER ASSISTS:
-------------------------------------
.1John Stockton 15806
2.Jason Kidd 12091
3.Mark Jackson 10334
4.Steve Nash 10249
5.Magic Johnson*10141


ASSISTS PER GAME HISTORY:
-------------------------------------------
1.Magic Johnson 11.19
2.John Stockton 10.51
3.Chris Paul 9.82
4.Oscar Robertson 9.51
5.Isiah Thomas 9.26



10000000% of the world recognizes Magic Johnson as the best passer in NBA history


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TOTAL CAREER POINTS
-------------------
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 38387
2. Karl Malone 36928
3. Michael Jordan 32292
4. Kobe Bryant 31617
5. Wilt Chamberlain 31419

CAREER SCORING AVERAGE
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1. Michael Jordan 30.12 (including garbage, no chance at title, in it for the passion years with Wizards)
2. Wilt Chamberlain 30.07
3. LeBron James 27.53
4. Elgin Baylor 27.36
5. Jerry West 27.03




10000000000000% of the world Recognizes Jordan as the best scorer in NBA history...



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When we apply the SAME logic / facts to Jigga stans, it's "hating".... and they bring up his "longevity" ....


By the way... Jordan also lead the league in scoring 10 times.... (yea, 10..) Thats something we are saying Jay NEVER DID, but, he's "Mike jordan of Mic recording"? ..... More like AC Green?

ps...... #FactsOnly

 

[really]

1 more fun fact about 1998 (Jay-Zs MOST "debatable" year)


Can I Get A... = Released on Sept 1st 1998 ... So, this was Jay's official first single... It was hot, definitely.... So lets say Jay was cooking for 4 months that year (Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec)

Get At Me Dog = Released on Feb 10th of 1998 = So that's 10 and 1/2 months he was hot that year... (1/2 Feb, March, April, May, June, July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec)


Since when does 10 1/2 months + 2 #1 albums + 1 UNIVERSAL CLASSIC album lose to 4 months and 1 #1 album??



Only in JiggaWarriors Minds..... 1998 was UNDISPUTABLY X's year....


#FactsOnly




EDIT:


GODDAMN @ DMX also releasing the Belly soundtrack in 1998



When you REALLY look at it, DMX's 1998 might be the craziest year for a rapper in HISTORY.... fukk 1998 itself


Dark and Hell is hot + Flesh of My Flesh + Belly Soundtrack + countless classic features (Money power respect, We Be Clubbin etc)



Rivals for the best year in hiphop history...

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

If I remember correctly, DMX was the hottest the late 90s for a few years.

Nelly was the hottest for the early 2000s a few years.

50 cent was the hottest for 2003-2005

06 I dont remember too much, but i know in 2007 das when wayne started taking over. not to mention Crank That came out that year.

After wayne came Drake.

what year was jay the hottest rapper in the game?

This is the only point I can give you for this thread. He aint never been the hottest anything.

 

[really]

Only real shyt brother.... ONLY real shyt...



Not a Hater... Jay is still hands down top 5.... It's just so big a difference between "Top 5" and #1 in my book...



Mario = #1 .... Crash Bandicoot = top 5 (Video game system mascots)

McDonalds = #1... Wendys = Top 5

Jordan = #1 ... Bird = Top 5....



There is HUGE discrepencies between #1 and top 5 in all those categories... Which is why, I have to bring facts to the conversation and prove Jay's top 5.... But that's a hell of a lot different from goat.....



#noHater.... #FactsOnly

 

[wire28]

If it wasn't for Reasonable Doubt, I'd have zero respect for Jay as a rapper.

"Can I live" is one of my favorite songs of all time.


nikka actually had a soul back then, but it's been a steady decline since


How y'all allow this man to dumb down his music and still have the audacity to call him the GOAT?

he just did it to double his dollars

 

[really]

Uh Oh



Yo BrothaZay.... nikkas messed up when they wanted to start talking about "So and so album was released in december, so we can't count it for that year" and all that shyt....

Stankonia = Sold 4 million
Blueprint = Sold 2.7 million...



Look when those outkast singles were released......





REAL shyt, I remember So fresh and so clean + Ms Jackson more than I remember Girls Girls Girls + Izzo




That Ms Jackson was the biggest shyt in the WORLD when it dropped.......... (Ms Jackson Reached #1 on Billboard... Izzo peaked at #8)


shyt even got better ratings from the Critics ACROSS THE BOARD... So there goes the "Classic" argument...

So when you factor In Outkast's 2 biggest singles where released in 2001...... AND they sold 4 million to Blueprints 2.7.... AND they got better ratings across the board from ALL major publications....









2001 = Outkasts year.......... UNDISPUTABLY .... (and U.O.E.N.O it)



#FactsOnly