Can we be real? Hip Hop artist are less talented than Jazz, Funk, and Soul musicians

[jilla82]

Ive been a hip hop head my whole life...with my formative years being during the golden years of hip hop.

But when I watch stuff like this Bootsy performance...it reminds me how much talent the folks pre hip hop had/have.
It takes years of practice to do this type of shyt.
Imagine all the Jazz musicians that dedicated their life to their craft.

Hip Hop artist? "im a hustler, not a rapper, its just rap is my hustle".
Pretty much 99% of rap performances are cats just lip syncing off of a track

 

[Yoda]

No shyt, but u just in your "im a soul / jazz/ funk head" phase right now.


dont post here till u back on that real shyt brah.

 

[thewiseman]

fukk U nikka I'D DONKEY fukk UR MOM U p*ssy ASS bytch DON'T SAY shyt BOUT LIL UZI OR CHIEF KEEF NOT BEING MORE TALENTED bytch SLY AND THE FAMILY STONES SOME MAJOR GARBAGE, fukk JIMI HENDRIX FUTURE HENDRXXX BETTER U p*ssy ASS HOE c*nt

 

[PhonZhi]

Less talented at what? Performing or in general?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

so are dancehall, reggaeton and many other simpler genres are less talented than soul/funk and especially jazz musicians. This isn't exactly earth breaking news

 

[jilla82]

No shyt, but u just in your "im a soul / jazz/ funk head" phase right now.


dont post here till u back on that real shyt brah.

no phase...im 35.
I have never seen a hip hop act touch that performance of "i'd rather be with you".

When you think that these dudes had to learn an instrument, write the music, and know how to put a band together....
...thats a whole different level than writing a hot 16 and having a good ear for beats.

With that said...I could just be all in my feelings right now.
That performance just blew me away.

Im someone that has always hated live shows...maybe its because I just dont like hip hop shows.

 

[who killin it?]

 

[Yoda]

no phase...im 35.
I have never seen a hip hop act touch that performance of "i'd rather be with you".

When you think that these dudes had to learn an instrument, write the music, and know how to put a band together....
...thats a whole different level than writing a hot 16 and having a good ear for beats.

With that said...I could just be all in my feelings right now.
That performance just blew me away.

Im someone that has always hated live shows...maybe its because I just dont like hip hop shows.

That performance has NOTHING on this

 

[Big Brown Areola]

There's a lot of talented rap artists out there but you can't compare jazz artists with the average rap nikka. When black people start playing instruments again we will listen a new genre.

 

[jilla82]

That performance has NOTHING on this

haha...not sure if youre joking or not...
..but I forgot, Kanye is one of the few hip hop acts ill go out of my way to see.

Dude for sure has a point of view...and puts effort into his shyt.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

If talking about jazz with only instruments no.
The saxophone & trumpet are musical instruments.
The artist is limited by the instrument whereas a rapper is limited by his imagination.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Wait..

So we are comparing people who play and master instruments to rappers now?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

There's a lot of talented rap artists out there but you can't compare jazz artists with the average rap nikka.

jazz musicians have no equals in pure talent when compared to any non-art music genre

When black people start playing instruments again we will listen a new genre.

when did they stop? within hiphop alone











go to a random black church and you will we a ton of younger kids playing instruments

Zaytoven comes from the black church school of music

The Close Ties Between Zaytoven & The Church

HipHopDX: Let's discuss your introduction to music, when you were a child. Your father was a preacher and your mom was a choir director. Did you start on the piano because you wanted to or because your parents wanted you to be a part of the church as well?

Zaytoven: Nah, it was something I wanted to do. I was at church so much — choir rehearsals because my mom was the choir director and my dad was preaching. So typically when you're at church so much at that age, you're looking for something to do to keep you entertained. I started off playing the drums. That's what I really wanted to do at first. But that was the same instrument all the other little boys wanted to go play. It was a line to try and play the drums. So Sunday morning service, you might get to play one song. Looking over at the keyboard and the organs, nobody really wanted to play them. So I said, "Let me learn how to play the organ or the keyboard."

DX: Are you still involved with the church?

Zaytoven: Yeah, most definitely. I'm still the main musician at the church I play at. I'm there every Sunday — two services a Sunday, sometimes three. Choir rehearsals on Tuesday and any other event that they have, I make myself available.

DX: Have you had a chance to compose any music for the church?

Zaytoven: Most definitely. Me and the choir director, we come up with songs all the time.

DX: Has it been difficult to separate church life from studio life?

Zaytoven: No, not really. I grew up in church. Things that I value and believe in haven't changed at all. It doesn't matter who I'm around. That's one thing about being a producer: I'm there to help produce a song but I don't have to be involved in everything that goes on.

Zaytoven Balances His Christian Faith With Making Trap Music For Migos & Gucci Mane | HipHopDX


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(piano and bass)

Okay. Well, talk to me about growing up in a musical household. Your dad was in a funk band. What influence did that have on you?
Yeah, my dad was in Lakeside and one of my uncles played with The Isleys and all their friends did music and I met all the old '70s and '80s dudes. I’m cool with Teddy Riley, one of the greats. It was cool, definitely a lot of knowledge got picked up from them, wisdom, or whatever you wanna call it—you know, this music shyt. I know how to play all instruments, anything but brass basically, and I’m sure if I bought a horn I could figure that out.

How many instruments can you play?
Everyone one of them except any that has to do with lips. Horns, I don’t know how to do that, but anything with the figures or beating on some shyt—I do that.

Do you have a favorite instrument?
Bass, probably because it was the easiest to learn because it's like one note at a time.

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[Straw Hat Luffy]

I feel like when we do this comparison its just trying to disregard hip hop as a genre. I mean most of these kids rapping now a days ain't shyt.
But rap legends like ice cube, nas, jay, biggie or even people from today like kendrick may not be talented in the aspect of actually performing instruments they have way with words that takes actual talent.

 

[Ron Fox]

Humanity has never seen poetry on the level of what Hip Hop has done. Kool G Rap, Canibus, Rakim, Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, Big Pun. GZA, Nas, Twista, Kendrick Lamar a good portion of battle rappers and others I havent mentioned have taken poetry on levels of superiority that no other genre has ever been able to take it


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