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I Got Game
I woulda been feeling this thread in October.
But 29-5 is 29-5.
But 29-5 is 29-5.
Can We Keep It 100 About Kerr Right Quick?
- Thread starter onelastdeath
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Random Bums? Not saying that. The best player in the league, and the best 2 guard in the league, which became the best backcourt in the league? They damn sure weren't that. I didn't recall ANYONE saying in 2010 that Klay or Steph would become what they are now. You said that Steph would be better than CP3 back then and people would have laughed at you.
Jackson grew their chemistry. Taught them how to win. Taught them how to PLAY HARD and taught them how to believe in themselves, while the NBA in itself made them better players.
Kerr's not doing anything special
So how come Jackson couldn't get a record like this last season if he taught them all that and they learned everything from him and not from themselves?
GS had the worst bench scoring in the league last year and it was there fatal flaw @Blackthoughts
Mark had no clue how to adjusts lineups and constantly subbed 5 in at a time
All Kerr or anyone had to do was improve there bench scoring by getting creative with the lineups
Mark Jackson is an idiot btw
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thats a good point - their ball movement is substantially better this season too, there is just no denying that
onelastdeath
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So how come Jackson couldn't get a record like this last season if he taught them all that and they learned everything from him and not from themselves?
This would have been the season. Bogut is healthy all of a sudden. Steph playing MVP ball. Klay balling and improved his D. this would have been it.
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Klay was a rookie Jackson's first year and he was a total defensive liability. If that 2011 draft had a do-over Klay would go second or maybe even first. You have to give Jackson some credit for what he's become. Under D'Antoni he never would've become a defensive minded player.
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Every Alvin Gentry team is in the top 5 in the league offensively. The funny thing is Mike Malone got all the credit for our defense when he was here and no one is giving Alvin Gentry credit for our offense. You have to wonder why that is.
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What was wrong with Jermaine O' Neal post ups?
Agreed. The point is that you can never fully distinguish between what a coach develops in a player and what was inherent in someone's own ability that he develops through maturing. This applies equally for Jackson and Kerr. There is no reason to believe Kerr wouldn't have done as good a job in Jackson's position, just in the same way that you can wonder whether Jackson would have the same record as Kerr does now.
Jackson had Mike Malone, that had the Kings playing solid defense, Boogie playing under control and the team overachieving this year.
When people tried to give credit to Malone on here, they got bashed for trying to take away credit from Jackson.
Phil Jackson had Johnny Bach for defense and the creator of the triangle offense in Tex Winters.
onelastdeath
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So the coach's job is essentially pointless? It's just the players on the floor and how good they are and Mark Jackson basically took credit for Steph, Klay and Bogut's talents?
I keep hearing about this amazing job the Kerr is doing, and I agree that he's done a superb job with the dubs. But can we stop pretending like he didn't get a continuation of Mark Jackson's work?
He groomed Draymond. Curry, and Klay and Barnes. Those 3 years under him, they built trust, chemistry, and comradery.
Doesn't mean that Kerr is doing a great job, and obviously he knows the game. But man, could we not have seen, Curry, Klay, and Draymond having career years this year? Haven't people been saying that forever? Add to Barnes balling, and Iggy and Bogut already on the Roster, wasn't this team always gonna make the jump eventually?
Everytime I see ESPN, NBA TV, or something, they always talk about the job that Kerr has done. As if he brought this team up from the very bottom. This team was always going to be a contender eventually, because it always had the pieces. They improved EVERY YEAR under Mark Jackson, while they had aroster at times. While dealing with injuries all over the place.
They went from 23 wins to 47 wins to 53 wins. In the course of his 3 years there. All the while putting together the pieces to win, and building the character, trust, and belief in teammates that you need to be a champ in the NBA.
Once again, Im not saying Kerr isn't great. But he did get to have Curry, Klay, Draymond and so on, at the peak of their prowess, shedding all their NBA "babyfat" and has them with everything they built under Jackson.
He won 21 of his first 23 games and was the first rookie coach to do that. Not a coincidence when you have all that shyt already built for you. He didnt bring this team up from the bottom. Which is how the media tries to make it seem. :blackye:
Stop being a racist