can we make the "colonizer" insult a thing on the coli?

[goatmane]

im just trying to get under cacs skin we all know how they get antsy and angry with words like "colonizer"

You stay obsessed with white people. Every thread

 

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

nikka in here talking about calling whites crusaders

White Supremacy is so strong that some black people promote it even when they think they're going against it ,

 

[agpxknt]

You see it kinda worked for Shuri cuz she's Wakandian and Wakanda DIDN"T get colonized and if they
woulda tried they woulda got they asses whooped.
It dont really work for the rest of us as an insult, might as well call em master

 

[Rusty$hackleford]

Terroristcrusader
Keep insulting their skin tone brehs, I'm sure that cuts deep
Some of yal are so lost

 

[African Peasant]

This is the type of madness and narcissim you're reenforcing by calling them that.




In fact you better call them thieves. That's universal. When you call someone a thief, you're calling yourself an honest man. It's a virtue. A thief is seen as a coward.

But when you call someone a colonizer, you're calling yourself a colonized man. It's not something that will raise your pride and the pride of your kids. It's not seen as a virtue. It's just seen as weakness.

 

[Rusty$hackleford]

This is the type of madness and narcissim you're reenforcing by calling them that.




In fact you better call them thieves. That's universal. When you call someone a thief, you're calling yourself an honest man. It's a virtue. A thief is seen as a coward.

But when you call someone a colonizer, you're calling yourself a colonized man. It's not something that will raise your pride and the pride of your kids. It's not seen as a virtue. It's just seen as weakness.

But the way some these brothers tell it, a thief got over on the victim, and would relish in that fact.
By calling him a thief are you then calling yourself a victim? I see your point, but for the sake of argument, you could both call someone a thief or a colonizer without yourself being victimized or colonized.
I would also assert that the disadvantaged, marginalized and oppressed shouldn't feel personal shame in their condition. Their condition doesn't necessarily reflect a lacking or inadequacy in one's self but an evilness and inhumanity in the oppressor.

 

[African Peasant]

But the way some these brothers tell it, a thief got over on the victim, and would relish in that fact.
By calling him a thief are you then calling yourself a victim? I see your point, but for the sake of argument, you could both call someone a thief or a colonizer without yourself being victimized or colonized.
I would also assert that the disadvantaged, marginalized and oppressed shouldn't feel personal shame in their condition. Their condition doesn't necessarily reflect a lacking or inadequacy in one's self but an evilness and inhumanity in the oppressor.

The difference is in general perception: a thief taking something from you does not show weakness on your part and does not show strength in his part.

This is why historically, in most civilizations, warriors, generals, heroes, etc are celebrated and thieves are seen as parasites.

Conquerors are celebrated, not thieves, except when those thieves are masquerading as conquerors.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Thread backfire...

 

[Rusty$hackleford]

The difference is in general perception: a thief taking something from you does not show weakness on your part and does not show strength in his part.

This is why historically, in most civilizations, warriors, generals, heroes, etc are celebrated and thieves are seen as parasites.

Conquerors are celebrated, not thieves, except when those thieves are masquerading as conquerors.

Among the imperial nations yes. Until Chinas open door policy, i would say thats an example of a civilization that didn't celebrate conquest, but rather had their neighbors pay tribute. Conquest for the most part rose out of the west.
Thievery can show strength through physical force (robbery) or a lack of fear of retaliation/resistance for your prey, and I'd say a large part of conquest involves theft. To say it is strength, I don't know if that's the word I'd use for it , in most cases I'd attributed it to exploiting lesser developed people with technological advances.

Unless you mean the term military strength, I wouldn't say the scramble for Africa or colonization of the Americas was a result of Europeans being stronger than the natives. I don't see that as strength at all but expoiting a disadvantage.
I see your point, and respect your position, but the point I'm making is strength against a formidable adversary is respectable. Overpowering the disadvantaged (or developing/third world country) is not, similary to a man beating a woman or an invalid. That form of strength is not cause celebre.
Whether or not they feel remose for this is inconsequential.

 

[timothy_strickland]

calling a rapist a rapist or a murderer a murderer isn't a compliment you retards

calling a colonizer a colonizer damn sure isn't one either

exactly these kind of insults don't hurt the self-esteem of the person that receives it, it's actually the opposite- it makes the perceived victim group weak and looking for moral victories that look and sound good, but ultimately don't provide the victimized power. And to the aggressor. yeah they look bad but ultimately they feel powerful because in a struggle of power, a colonizer owns the colonized, the rapist holds power over the raped, the murderer took the life of the murdered, you just reaffirm his dominion/power/control/supremacy over you, you make him feel himself even more smh.

only power the perceived victim has is passing a victim wrongly wronged in the eyes of women and lobby groups....otherwise you look and sound weak to most people. I mean the aggressor don't care about obtaining approval and socially acceptance from purse-cluching offended women and media smh. He takes his power as he sees fit and enjoy the advantages and opportunities that comes from it. Winners don't care about no moral victories or being perceived as the bad guys. They care about taking power and maintaining it.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

I like cracker better. Pale, pasty, white, dull, boring, and salty



Colonizer suggest power over somewhere or someone. Sounds like you giving someone power over you

That's not what cracker means....

 

[Rusty$hackleford]

Let me restate that no, as an every day insult to cacs, no i dont agree with thread premise and don't think colonizer, crusader, or even imperialist make sense as an appropriate insult. To clarify I said that in the context of foreign policy, especially in areas we do not belong and hypocritical policy, I use that as a denigrating term against US/western agenda/hegemony.

 

[Rusty$hackleford]

I mean the aggressor don't care about obtaining approval and socially acceptance from purse-cluching offended women and media smh. He takes his power as he sees fit and enjoy the advantages and opportunities that comes from it. Winners don't care about no moral victories or being perceived as the bad guys. They care about taking power and maintaining it.

Agreed.
I would ask you all to reflect on what you are trying to accomplish by insulting someone. Is it too hurt the insulted's feelings? Or is it to disparage them amongst people you actually care about? suppose that could change depending on the scenario.

If I want to hurt someone, I find the physical approach much more effective as well as satisfying.

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Edit- you all have a pleasant day

 

[timothy_strickland]

@Rusty$hackleford
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@Malkoonxxx_23

they want to have moral/symbolic superiority over the supposed aggressor. They want to feel like the saint and the agressor feel like a savage sinner. Moral/Symbolic victories over real victories smh.

 

[Dzali OG]

The term Colonizer will bother them because it hurts the image of being the underdog they relish. That underdog image american blacks have and they so badly want to keep from us, because everyone roots for the underdog.

It places what they've done directly in their face.

It also implies negative energy.

It's a dry humor, something that cacs would utilize themselves. A type of politically correct dog whistle.