Can we take 30 minutes to acknowledge Steamboat/Rude as the GOAT US match?

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It's 1992 WCW. Bill Watts had recently come in and made a marked change to bring things back to old school, hard hitting wrestling from the 70s and 80s.

Rick Rude would make his name in Memphis and WCCW as a cocky heel who flaunted his body. It's an upper body business, god damn it!

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He then joined the WWF in 1987, being a key member of the Heenan family and feuding with the Ultimate Warrior over the IC and WWF Championships, as well as having a bitter feud with Jake Roberts.

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Ricky Steamboat, on the other hand, had previously made his name in JCP before jumping to the WWF during the expansion era. His feuds with Don Muraco and Randy Savage were legendary, but he would find himself back in JCP/WCW in 1989, defeating long time rival Ric Flair for the NWA Championship before a brief return to the WWF.

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In late 1991, both would appear in WCW. Rick Rude would debut as the masked Halloween Havoc Phantom, while Ricky Steamboat would return as a mystery partner for Dustin Rhodes. Shortly after, the two began feuding over the WCW US Championship. Due to multiple instances of outside interference from Paul E. Dangerously, the leader of the Dangerous Alliance of which Rick Rude was the center piece, a 30 minute iron man match was scheduled between the two for the Beach Blast 1992 PPV.


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The match happens. It is a 30 minute primer on everything that is pro wrestling. In my opinion, there has never been a wrestling match in the United States that so expertly explained the entirety of the sport in 30 minutes. A match that you could show to someone who has never seen a wrestling match, and they'd instantly understand the concept of heels, babyfaces, and wrestling psychology. Over the 30 minutes, Steamboat and Rude essentially wrote the book for what wrestling is, and it is a match that wrestlers and fans alike should study. No wasted movements, all moves mean something in the context of the match and feud (which you don't need to know to understand the match), incredible selling from both men, top notch commentary from JR and Jesse Ventura. It is an absolute masterpiece on all aspects of pro wrestling.


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In my opinion, it is the best match in the history of wrestling in the United States. Maybe there were matches that were bigger, or drew more, or were more "epic", but I don't think there is a single match to take place in the United States that has perfectly encapsulated pro wrestling like this match. It's an absolute masterclass from start to finish, and a match that should be THE primer on anyone that wants to understand wrestling psychology.
 
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beach blast 92 was a dope PPV with only really one bad match...that iron man match was dope...i feel that HHH-rock borrowed some stuff from it for their Iron match

It's one of if not the best WCW PPVs. The iron match match is GOAT level. Sting/Cactus is one if the best in both guys' careers. Dangerous Alliance 6 man is typical 3-4 star quality shyt. Then 30 minutes of MVC and Steiners beating the shyt out of each other. If the Raven/Pillman match had been 5-8 minutes shorter, the show would be a legit GOAT quality PPV. It ends with 4 very good to great matches in a row. Opening match with Pillman/Raven is decent, Taylor/Simmons is solid, Buff/Hammer should have been a Saturday Night show. The rest of the show is crazy high quality.

It's certainly a top 5 WCW PPV of all time.

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It's one of if not the best WCW PPVs. The iron match match is GOAT level. Sting/Cactus is one if the best in both guys' careers. Dangerous Alliance 6 man is typical 3-4 star quality shyt. Then 30 minutes of MVC and Steiners beating the shyt out of each other. If the Raven/Pillman match had been 5-8 minutes shorter, the show would be a legit GOAT quality PPV. It ends with 4 very good to great matches in a row. Opening match with Pillman/Raven is decent, Taylor/Simmons is solid, Buff/Hammer should have been a Saturday Night show. The rest of the show is crazy high quality.

It's certainly a top 5 WCW PPV of all time.

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the surprising thing was the match i considered bad was ron-taylor...buff vs hammer was actually pretty decent..i didnt think it sucked
 

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That whole Dangerous Alliance period in WCW was some of the best wrestling I ever watched in terms of storytelling and in-ring action.

As for that card in particular I consider the 6man tag with JYD/Tom Zenk/Doink the Clown vs The York FOundation/DDP was the worst match.

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ANd Terry Gordy is possibly the most underrated wrestler ever. Dude was a beast in the ring.
 

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That whole Dangerous Alliance period in WCW was some of the best wrestling I ever watched in terms of storytelling and in-ring action.

As for that card in particular I consider the 6man tag with JYD/Tom Zenk/Doink the Clown vs The York FOundation/DDP was the worst match.


ANd Terry Gordy is possibly the most underrated wrestler ever. Dude was a beast in the ring.

Man was a killer

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Man was a killer

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He was a beast. I was a huge Freebirds fan (no :mjpls:); and really liked him tagging with Dr. Death but I am a total stan of his solo run as UWF champ and I love him and Stan Hansen as a tag team. They were brutal together and even more when they wrestled one another.
 

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It's been a long ass time since I watched this, but I gotta throw in for two of the 1989 Steamboat/Flair matches: Their 3/18/89 House Show match (easily found on DailyMotion and probably one of my 10-15 favorite matches ever) and their 2 out of 3 falls match at Clash of the Champions VI. I'll have to rewatch this to compare though.

By the way, we could easily make the argument for Steamboat as the GOAT US worker, no? Like @stro said, you could show someone a Steamboat match and they'll probably immediately get what wrestling is about at a pretty high level. How many workers can we say that about?
 
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