Can we talk about Assad for a minute?

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And yet





Something's up

Daesh is fighting Turkish backed Free Syrian Army near Al Bab.

Russian Air Force bombed Raqqa today though it's not confirmed


This war is confusing
 

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Syria's Assad: Trump can be our natural ally

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said in an interview with Russian state television that U.S. President-elect Donald Trump could become a natural ally to Damascus if he shows he is sincere about fighting terrorism.

"If Trump can genuinely fight against terrorism, he can be our natural ally," Assad, speaking through an interpreter, said in the interview which was broadcast on Wednesday.

Assad said he was encouraged by Trump's declarations during the election campaign about fighting violent Islamists and not interfering in the internal affairs of other countries. But it was unclear if Trump would carry through on those promises once in office, Assad said.



(Reporting by Christian Lowe; Editing by Jack Stubbs)
 

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Sure.... Old tactics reused....

March 1949 Syrian coup d'état - Wikipedia


Macmillan backed Syria assassination plot

The plan called for funding of a “Free Syria Committee” [hmmm … sounds vaguely familiar], and the arming of “political factions with paramilitary or other actionist capabilities” within Syria. The CIA and MI6 would instigate internal uprisings, for instance by the Druze [a Shia Muslim sect] in the south, help to free political prisoners held in the Mezze prison, and stir up the Muslim Brotherhood in Damascus.

The "preferred plan"adds: "Once a political decision is reached to proceed with internal disturbances in Syria, CIA is prepared, and SIS [MI6] will attempt, to mount minor sabotage and coup de main incidents within Syria, working through contacts with individuals.

The planners envisaged replacing the Ba'ath/Communist regime with one that was firmly anti-Soviet, but they conceded that this would not be popular and "would probably need to rely first upon repressive measures and arbitrary exercise of power".



Why the Arabs Don’t Want Us in Syria

Syria: Another Pipeline War


2007

The Redirection

To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.


2007 West Point Counter-Terrorism Center...


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Hmmmm I wonder where these so called "crackdowns" began...:jbhmm:


U.S. supports Opposition groups in Syria
US 'funded Syria opposition groups'


2012 FOIA Report....

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http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...12-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf



Your Move.....:sas1::sas2:



Forgot about this post. So essentially all the protesters were CIA agitators? Why did the CIA wait until 2011 to do regime change? Perhaps Arabs were tired of dictators ruling for decades on end :ehh:?

Coups in 1949 are proof of. . .?


Also I see that you haven't attempted to defend Assad's use of Barrel bombs.
 
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Some of yall fell for that Assad okie doke so bad

:heh:

Unleash Shabiha goons to rape and kill civilians and claim youre defending your country bruhs


Fears are spreading of a genocide in Aleppo after reports of children being burned alive and civilians executed on the spot.

The rebel-held city fell to the Syrian Army last night as President Bashar al-Assad's forces moved in.

Early reports suggested that at least one child was burned alive as violent clashes played out.

News service Aleppo24, which describes itself as an independent news source, claimed that the child was burned alive.

There were also reports of civilians being executed by firing squad by the Russian-backed forces.

According to the United Nations, 82 civilians were shot on sight by regime forces.

Spokesman Rupert Colville said: "We're filled with the deepest foreboding for those who remain in this last hellish corner."

He added: "Yesterday evening, we received further deeply disturbing reports that numerous bodies were lying on the streets.

"The residents were unable to retrieve them due to the intense bombardment and their fear of being shot on sight."

British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said that continued shelling and targeting by the regime is happening across Aleppo.

There are also unverified reports of mass detentions and arrests, according to the Guardian.

Turkish press agency Anadolu quoted an eyewitness who said that 67 men were killed in two neighbourhoods.


But I guess this is fake news because it's not reported by RT :francis:


Posters fell for the okie doke for real. Both sides are brutal but one side has an 'islamic'' flavour while the other claims to be secular. Both kill civilians indiscriminately and carry out human rights abuses.
 
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Forgot about this post. So essentially all the protesters were CIA agitators? Why did the CIA wait until 2011 to do regime change? Perhaps Arabs were tired of dictators ruling for decades on end :ehh:?

Coups in 1949 are proof of. . .?


Also I see that you haven't attempted to defend Assad's use of Barrel bombs.
Hmmmm when did the Arab Spring begin? Bombs are bombs.... Them being certain types dont make them anymore worse.

Take the L homie.
 

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Hmmmm when did the Arab Spring begin? Bombs are bombs.... Them being certain types dont make them anymore worse.

Take the L homie.

Late 2010. What does that have to do with anything?

There is actually a difference between precision bombs taking out military targets and dumping barrels filled with explosives in civilian neighbourhoods.

What L would that be? Your argument thus far is those protesters were CIA agents...barrel bombs are the same as any other bombs :skip:
 

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But I guess this is fake news because it's not reported by RT :francis:


Posters fell for the okie doke for real. Both sides are brutal but one side has an 'islamic'' flavour while the other claims to be secular. Both kill civilians indiscriminately and carry out human rights abuses.
:yeshrug: This is the most accurate depiction of the entire crisis
 

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I have to give Assad his props tho. He played a hell of a game not to get Gadaffi'ed.

It helped that the Russians were there to keep his military affloat when there were defectors in droves in the early stages.
 

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It helped that the Russians were there to keep his military affloat when there were defectors in droves in the early stages.

He had allies. :yeshrug:

He's Shia in a land of Sunnis so the Iranians were going to ride out to keep him afloat. He's also a regional asset for Russia in a strongly pro-American area. Whereas Gadaffi was an international pariah with no Western...Arab..Muslim...Russian ...no one backing him.

Assad then entered into a pact with the devil and let jihadis run amok to make his position more palatable to the international community.

He played his hand well :yeshrug:
 

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When you determine with so much certainty that the people he has attacked are 'innocent civilians' and not 'hired mercenaries' then you're doing the bidding of our war hawk neocons. Fact.
OK, so prove that the hundreds of thousands of people he killed are hired mercenaries and not innocent civilians. You castigate him for "speaking with certainty" but then present an alternative reality with zero proof.
 
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