Can we talk about Bradley Beal being a bum?

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I don't get these teams

we've never won with this player, he's now nearing 30 years old and will only get worse

Lets give him a big azz deal

In hockey and football they get rid of those players with quickness :mjlol:

NBA players get the bag. The Wiz are gonna be fukked for the next 5-6 years even if they do manage to trade him.
 

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He’s making 44 million dollars this season.

Team is in 12th place in the East.

He’s playing third option to Kyle Kuzma and KP currently.

Dude is averaging 22 / 5 / 3 :huhldup:

Basically got Wall shipped out of Washington and the team hasn’t been shyt since. Oh he did get to average 30 points two seasons in a row to get a massive bag but now he chilling I guess. Dude don’t give a fukk :mjlol: would hate to have him as a teammate.

Bradley Beal has never been that good. Stop looking at numbers. I dont care if Beal is averaging 30 or 20 ppg, the eye test tells me hes not elite.
 

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I'm gonna wait for @FAH1223's opinion first :jbhmm:
He’s making 44 million dollars this season.

Team is in 12th place in the East.

He’s playing third option to Kyle Kuzma and KP currently.

Dude is averaging 22 / 5 / 3 :huhldup:

Basically got Wall shipped out of Washington and the team hasn’t been shyt since. Oh he did get to average 30 points two seasons in a row to get a massive bag but now he chilling I guess. Dude don’t give a fukk :mjlol: would hate to have him as a teammate.

The reason he's averaging only 22 PPG is because Kuzma and Porzingis are taking up more usage. He actually isn't playing third option because the team isn't better without him. Wes Unseld Jr. needs him on the floor if he wants an efficient offense.

With the lower usage, Brad is posting one of his better seasons if you look at the advanced numbers. TS% is 62% which is terrific. The Wizards would have a top 10 offense in efficiency if he was playing because he is the only guard on the roster who can get in the paint and create.

His problem has been his hamstring and getting COVID for the 3rd time (or 4th time?). When he's on the court, he's been very good. He doesn't need to be averaging 30 PPG. He can do it but its not necessary.

I still don't understand why they gave him a no trade clause when the trade kicker alone was already enough
Someone would have, but he wouldn't have gotten that 5th year or the no trade clause. The no trade clause is what's goofy about the deal as they theoretically could find a team still that likes Beal enough to take the gamble on him.
:mjlol:

Bum ass Wizards gave him $250 million and a no trade clause
Someone would have, but he wouldn't have gotten that 5th year or the no trade clause. The no trade clause is what's goofy about the deal as they theoretically could find a team still that likes Beal enough to take the gamble on him.

Tommy Sheppard and Ted Leonsis giving him the full max when they had leverage... (remember, no one last summer that he'd go to had cap space to sign him outright) reeked of desperation. The No Trade Clause was the cherry on top. This is what happens when you haven't drafted a starting level player since 2013 (Otto Porter) and Beal is the last All-Star you drafted and he is in his 11th season.

Ted Leonsis has been majority owner for 13 years almost. He has never gotten a fresh outside voice to lead the Wizards front office. Tommy has been there since the aftermath of Michael Jordan's firing in 2003 and he became Ernie Grunfeld's #2 guy. They tried to get Masai Ujiri to come but they weren't willing to pay him what he wanted and give him ownership stake in Monumental Sports & Entertainment. They didn't offer the job to Troy Weaver, a DC area native, and he went to Detroit. Leonsis hired consultants and did this whole expensive ass organizational review in 2019 and talked to various front office and coaches and wound up just hiring Tommy. It shows how lazy and unserious this franchise is and its baffling considering that he has legitimate professionals running the Capitals. The Mystics won a title in the WNBA recently too.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Joe Lacob bought the Warriors in 2010. Just remember how the Warriors were considered a mediocre, mid, disaster of a franchise since the 1970s with a couple of pockets of success (Run TMC & We Believe) since their title in 1975. What did Lacob do to transform the organization in 2010-2011? He brought in JERRY WEST... and eventually Bob Myers. They did it early on in Steph's career to where by his 4th year they got a taste of the postseason and were able to build with the young nucleus.

The Bullets are similar. They last were relevant in the 1970s with a couple of pockets of relevancy since (CWEBB/Strickland got a postseason run, Arenas/Jamison/Butler era). What does Ted Leonsis do in 2010-11? He keeps the man that built the Arenas teams and saw the gun-gate disaster occur. He lets him pick John Wall with the #1 overall pick and entrusts him to rebuild. Well, what happened in 2011? They had 2 first rounders and they draft two busts and the Wall era was doomed right there. Even before the drafted Beal. The other inflection point was the 2016 offseason. Grunfeld was still there, they couldn't even get a meeting with Durant, Horford was their plan B and he signs with Boston at the last second, and then they panic sign Jason Smith, Ian Mahinmi, and Andrew Nicholson to contracts totaling over $100M and then 5 months later they trade Nicholson and their 2017 1st (Jarrett Allen) for Bojan Bogdanovic for 30 game rental and the collapse of the Wizards is ensured by the 2018-19 season.

I say all that to say, I don't fault Beal at all for taking the money. He's been molded by a terribly run franchise and kudos to him for putting control of his future in his hands. He is not worth the money and any competent organization would have had him sign for $50M less or so without the no-trade clause. That way you retain your asset and you can use him later on to rebuild assuming good health and good play.
 

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I don't get these teams

we've never won with this player, he's now nearing 30 years old and will only get worse

Lets give him a big azz deal
They do it and they always immediately regret it

"Oh we gotta unload that contract and it's just too much!!" :damn:

:mjlol:
 

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He’s making 44 million dollars this season.

Team is in 12th place in the East.

He’s playing third option to Kyle Kuzma and KP currently.

Dude is averaging 22 / 5 / 3 :huhldup:

Basically got Wall shipped out of Washington and the team hasn’t been shyt since. Oh he did get to average 30 points two seasons in a row to get a massive bag but now he chilling I guess. Dude don’t give a fukk :mjlol: would hate to have him as a teammate.

2nd time in a row the wizards have gotten burned badly by a supermax between wall and now this dude.
 

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They do it and they always immediately regret it

"Oh we gotta unload that contract and it's just too much!!" :damn:

:mjlol:

I mean God FOrbid we lose Bradley Beal......

We will prob struggle to make the playoffs
Have average of the mill attendance


oh wait even with bradley beal for years you've already had that
 

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They do it and they always immediately regret it

"Oh we gotta unload that contract and it's just too much!!" :damn:

:mjlol:

I'm not even trying to shyt on Beal. I think he's a really good player. It's clear at this point he's a complementary piece to a team and not 'the guy' for whatever that means, and that's OK. I just really can't fathom what the end goal for the Wizards is here. To fight to get out of the play in tournament for the next few years? Didn't I hear they wanted to trade Hachimura and didn't wanna pay Kuzma?
 

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I mean God FOrbid we lose Bradley Beal......

We will prob struggle to make the playoffs
Have average of the mill attendance


oh wait even with bradley beal for years you've already had that
Exactly what the fukk has Beal ever done where has he led you??

Who cares about Bradley Beal??
 

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I'm not even trying to shyt on Beal. I think he's a really good player. It's clear at this point he's a complementary piece to a team and not 'the guy' for whatever that means, and that's OK. I just really can't fathom what the end goal for the Wizards is here. To fight to get out of the play in tournament for the next few years? Didn't I hear they wanted to trade Hachimura and didn't wanna pay Kuzma?
He's ALWAYS been a complimentary piece thats the problem in the NBA

They keep overpaying these complimentary pieces max and super max money then they wanna complain
 

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The disrespect for Beal up in here. I guess that's what happens when you're tied to a loser ass franchise.
I said he was playing like trash last season.

But I can’t say anything about his play this season besides the turnovers in the clutch.
 
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