Canes,Gators,Seminoles lets discuss

[darius19]

Those Chris Rix years shouldn't even count breh.
He was Miami's MVP

breh, if y'all removing Rix years, then we get to remove Coker, Shannon, Golden years

 

[darius19]

Greg Olson from the '04 period so he dont count..since joinin the ACC the NFL production ain't been shyt compared to FSU

well yeah, the premise of my point was the talent we WERE putting out from the mid 80s to mid 2000s. You can't deny that if you are unbiased.

obviously in the last 5-7 years, FSU has been putting more talent in the league, but I wouldn't say our talent hasn't been shyt compared to yours. We still put good players in the league, the problem is, because of shytty coaching, these guys dont have amazing careers while they are at Miami.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Miami ain't been shyt except for about 3 years in the entire time I've been alive

You can't lose 8 straight and still be #1

Until y'all win the Coastal I ain't tryna hear that tomfoolery

 

[darius19]

No disrespect to UF but I don't see how any of y'all could claim #1. It's a battle for #2 for you guys but I'd be willing to listen

 

[MF budz]

Florida and florida state both going to lose week one. :Jimgotcha:










fukk that last game last year.:Pshkobe:

2 points

 

[North of Death]

well yeah, the premise of my point was the talent we WERE putting out from the mid 80s to mid 2000s. You can't deny that if you are unbiased.

obviously in the last 5-7 years, FSU has been putting more talent in the league, but I wouldn't say our talent hasn't been shyt compared to yours. We still put good players in the league, the problem is, because of shytty coaching, these guys dont have amazing careers while they are at Miami.

We've been putting better talent in the league then UM since '06...once we got out our slump in '10 we furthered that gap

 

[darius19]

We've been putting better talent in the league then UM since '06...once we got out our slump in '10 we furthered that gap

I actually looked this up because I was curious...2006-2010 below. I would say Miami had slightly more talent come out actually. I highlighted the names of the players who actually had good careers

2010 onwards, you can do the same comparison and I think FSU would win, but not by a HUGE margin like you seem to be claiming.

FSU 2006:

Ernie Sims LB Detroit Lions 1st (9)
Kamerion Wimbley
Brodrick Bunkley
Antonio Cromartie
Willie Reid
Leon Washington
Pat Watkins
A.J. Nicholson

2007:
Lawrence Timmons
Buster Davis
Lorenzo Booker
Mario Henderson
Chris Davis

2008:
Andre Fluellen
Letroy Guion
Geno Hayes

2009:
Everette Brown

2010:
Patrick Robinson
Myron Rolle
Dakoda Watson

Miami 2006:
Kelly Jennings
- Rocky McIntosh
- Sinorice Moss
- Devin Hester,
- Eric Winston
- Rashad Butler
- Leon Williams
- Orien Harris
- Marcus Maxey

2007:
Brandon Meriweather
Jon Beason,
Greg Olsen,
Baraka Atkins,
Kareem Brown, DT

2008:
Kenny Phillips
Calais Campbell
TavaresGooden

2009:
Spencer Adkins

2010:
Jimmy Graham
Daryl Sharpton
Jason Fox
Dedrick Epps

 

[North of Death]

I actually looked this up because I was curious...2006-2010 below. I would say Miami had slightly more talent come out actually. I highlighted the names of the players who actually had good careers

2010 onwards, you can do the same comparison and I think FSU would win, but not by a HUGE margin like you seem to be claiming.

FSU 2006:

Ernie Sims LB Detroit Lions 1st (9)
Kamerion Wimbley
Brodrick Bunkley
Antonio Cromartie
Willie Reid
Leon Washington
Pat Watkins
A.J. Nicholson

2007:
Lawrence Timmons
Buster Davis
Lorenzo Booker
Mario Henderson
Chris Davis

2008:
Andre Fluellen
Letroy Guion
Geno Hayes

2009:
Everette Brown

2010:
Patrick Robinson
Myron Rolle
Dakoda Watson

Miami 2006:
Kelly Jennings
- Rocky McIntosh
- Sinorice Moss
- Devin Hester,
- Eric Winston
- Rashad Butler
- Leon Williams
- Orien Harris
- Marcus Maxey

2007:
Brandon Meriweather
Jon Beason,
Greg Olsen,
Baraka Atkins,
Kareem Brown, DT

2008:
Kenny Phillips
Calais Campbell
TavaresGooden

2009:
Spencer Adkins

2010:
Jimmy Graham
Daryl Sharpton
Jason Fox
Dedrick Epps

Broderick Bunkley, Kam Wimbley, Leon Washington, Geno Hayes had better careers than everyone on that UM list from '06 to '09 except Hester, Beason, and Campbell

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Success wise, I wanna say FSU because their lows weren't as bad as ours (UM) have been since the mid-2000s

Popularity wise, Canes & Noles are neck and neck.....oddly enough I don't meet too many Gator fans & don't see Gator merch worn as much as the other 2

That is because they got the central FL redneck population locked down

 

[smitty22]

Miami ain't been shyt except for about 3 years in the entire time I've been alive

You can't lose 8 straight and still be #1

Until y'all win the Coastal I ain't tryna hear that tomfoolery

Miami got no division titles?

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Miami got no division titles?

shyt even Wake Forest got a ACC title

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

1st the FACTS
All time series

Miami 31
fsu 30

Miami 29
Uf 26

National Championships
Miami 5
fsu 3
uf 3


there's actually no reason that a small private school should have more accolades or have a winning record vs 2 state schools with far bigger enrollments, far more alumni, far more money...but here we are. even after Miami's decade of being down, Miami STILL leads in all categories.

put together the all time Hurricanes team, and they beat the all time seminoles and all time gators

rank the best teams of a time out of the schools and Miami comes out on top of that as well

# of times on probation
Miami: 8
UF: 6
FSU: 6

 

[Freddie.Cane]

# of times on probation
Miami: 8
UF: 6
FSU: 6

fukk you bytch

 

[malbaker86]

Because it's pretty much inarguable. The numbers don't lie. 5 > 3, and Miami has done it with a foothold in pop culture (which is what happens when a school is in an urban center versus a college town and is successful, look what being a de facto Chicago school does for Notre Dame ). You can argue night and day about who is #2 between FSU and UF, but all non-Gator fans would say FSU #2 if only because FSU never made excuses about scheduling Miami, and didn't veto them joining their conference

Gators refusing to schedule Miami every year is reason alone for them to be #3.

Of course, hilariously, when it comes to fanbase in the state numbers wise, it's FSU/UF neck and neck and Miami a distant third.

Bowden: Florida State wouldn’t have won national title in SEC

Then, Bowden told the story of how Florida State joined the ACC in the early 1990s instead of the SEC. Bowden’s reasoning was that Florida State would have had a tough time winning a national championship if it had to go through the SEC.

"I felt that it was too difficult to win through the SEC to win a national championship," Bowden told Finebaum. "I felt like our best route would be to go through the ACC and that did prove out to be correct. I don’t know if we could have made it through the SEC."

Bowden: Florida State wouldn't have won national title in SEC | FOX Sports

 

[Da_Eggman]

Is this a joke