I mean the whole reason it’s gone is because of the redundancy. It really made no sense to have two cars practically the same size. What I can see them doing just like everyone else is introducing more crossover SUV’s.
Car prices going down by lexus stay high :beli:
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the cac mamba
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The cheapest Lexus I seen near me is an is300 and they want $12k for is 240k miles...
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You have NO idea the amount of emails Lexus has received from GS owners and dealers about that car. Because yes, the GS and ES are similar in size, but in terms of performance/handling/lack of AWD on higher trim levels, it's left a bit of a gap. It's a huge jump to go from the ES, to the LS if you want a sedan. That middle ground is what the next ES is going to try and target.
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The cheapest Lexus I seen near me is an is300 and they want $12k for is 240k miles...
They hold their value incredibly well...that being said, that's crack pipe pricing
“In 2019, Lexus sold just 3,378 units of the GS in the United States, making it the brand's slowest-selling four-door sedan. The declining sales, coupled with the increasing competition from rival luxury brands, made it difficult for Lexus to justify continued GS production.” It would be a lot easier to just add on to the ES than create a whole other production line. If people want performance they go to the Germans. Your average Lexus buyers isn’t looking for performance. They want the reliability of a Toyota with some luxury. The GSF is one of my favorite cars, but leaves a lot to desire when you factor in price and tech. Not to mention they barely depreciate keeping them in the $30-$40k range where you can get a Merc or BMW instead. Most car brands are putting out more cross overs than ever before. I can’t stand cross overs, but the data is out there that crossovers/SUVs are up and sedans are on the decline. I sell cars so I have to keep up with this info.
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They hold their value incredibly well...that being said, that's crack pipe pricing
Here's the car.. 2017 IS300 228K miles... now $11,995
Them nikkas taking that reliability sht too far...The cheapest Lexus I seen near me is an is300 and they want $12k for is 240k miles...
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This nikka tried to sell me a GS with 130k and a rebuilt tilte, for 14K. I told the nikka: "yo this is a rebuilt title". Dude said :"Its a Lexus"I posted the picture above take a look...
sht a used 2021 Lexus IS350F cost way more than a used 2021 A5. Its a sick world mane
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I'm on the other side of it, I develop the cars you sell. Keep in mind -- there's a LOT of Lexus models the US doesn't get (the Alphard and Lexus version of the Corolla GR to name a few). That being said, the issues with the GH/TX has Lexus going over any models in development with a fine tooth comb. That and Lexus has already updated most of their crossovers and SUV's fairly recently (the UX being the exception); the ES is getting a bit long in the tooth.
Edit: For those of you who want somewhat of a deal, I'd consider getting a V6 ES (assuming you're okay with it being FWD and the rear shocks leaking from time to time) before the new model comes out.
I’m failing to see how and why Lexus would bring back a model that just didn’t sell well toward the end of its life. You’re implying that the GS maybe coming back (which maybe in the future they do), but the numbers just don’t support that. With pretty much all company’s loading up on crossovers wouldn’t that just force Lexus to compete? I think price point has a lot to do with it since Lexus are pretty much in German luxury range , and let’s be honest carry more prestige than Lexus. The 2 things Lexus has going is reliability and resale, but at this price point people buying brand new off the lot can afford the maintenance and don’t care as much about depreciation. Do Lexus buyers care if the car is rwd and has more performance? With all that being said I wouldn’t doubt they bring an EV sedan to the table like other manufactures are doing, but an all gas GS I think is out the question.
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If I wanted to drive a new car with a 2008 interior, I would get a Lexus.
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REBUILT?!?!
fukk that shyt... if you need to rebuild a lexus engine that sounds catastrophic...Schadenfreude
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Nah breh, you misunderstand what I mean. Lexus is going to try and make the next ES more dynamic and feature oriented like the GS was. The ES stretch was an attempt to retain GS buyers, because there's nothing in their lineup that actually matches up with that car. If they really wanted to make a GS again, they should shrink down the LS, and not stretch the ES. The ES will probably be offered in a lot of different trim levels and hybrid configurations, anything more than that I can't say at this time.
Also: Prestige in a brand is relative; most people buying the cars new don't pay for maintenance during the lease term anyway because it's covered by the manufacturer. The main difference between the Germans and Lexus is this: most people lease German cars, most people buy Lexus if they want a luxury car long term. We won't go there about Cadillac (v-series not withstanding) or Lincoln because those two brands are COOKED.