Cardi B says all our favorite rappers have ghost writers, even the ones who say they dont(rant)

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your attacking of hip hop producers for sampling shows your lack of respect for hip hop.

you clearly dont see why pen authenticity matters in hip hop. not even that you dont see it you dont care.

everything in society has a filter. why cant hip hop? if pen authenticity is how we safe guard our shyt why is that a problem?

the rules were created by those who created hip hop. some basic rules are you dont bite other hip hop creators. and you write your own shyt. its been like this forever and you cabt be d the rules just because. if you do either of those you subject to criticism.

what you are doing is the equivalent of a rock band having a drum machine on stage instead of a real drummer and questioning why people are mad.

Lqck of respect. Authenticity?

No your an idiot. THEIR AINT NO RULES.

I walk and breathe this shyt. More so than 99% of this forum for a fact. I am One of the last ones left. But I am SURROUNDED by people who dont CARE and then i come on here and see a buncha made up shyt that people do care.

HIP HOP is dead my friend. Sorry to tell you this but she stinkin.

Its ok to steal written notes but not written lyrics? Its ok for jay z to take biggie lyrics but not drake taking that 4tay track?Its ok for the chronic to be seen as a goat album when the ONLY GENIUS of the album was combining MULTIPLE GENIUS created works into one album and have other GREAT rappers write the lyrics. Wont see anyone cying about the chronic being a goat album.

I grew up. I see producers selling beats with full hooks. Thats ghost writing. I see an industry where people havent written they lyrics in 15 YEARS! And yall choose to cry now.

and cuz funk flex drops a bomb and finds proof drake did it, its now an IMPORTANT point in the culture? Yall let hip hop all but destroy itself and now found morAls. How convenient.

Stfu. The culture ainy the culture. So playing by the OG rules is tired. Ive written and produced every song i ever put out IN MY LIFE. But you dont see me bytching about it online. Cuz the reality is EVERYONE USING GHOSTWRITERS.

Shout out to the kings of ghostwriting.

Dr dre
Kanye west
Eazy E
Ol dirty b*stard
Drake

DARE I SAY

nas and jay?

Im on call to write for all of you (rip dirt)


Try and take their lyrics and make a better version of their songs. You wouodnt be able to cuz hip hop is more than lyrics. I figured that out in 2001 yall are way late.

And ya drun machine/drummer anaology is fitting.

Whats realler breh? The guy who created the pattern on the drum machine or the drummer COPYING the notes...

Least the homie wit the drum machine aint using GHOSTWRITERS. Yall dont know what ya wanna thi k.

On top of that its YALL who put down rappers coming up for a variety of reasons. “The mixing is bad” “the hooks are ehhh””the production is weak”. Well those are the problems that occur when one man makes a project.

You want the big albums like kendricks where 80 other people bring “his” album to life so you can call ot classic but dont want ghostwriting..

Like insaid. Grow up. Stopconfusing culture with BUSINESS
 
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Lqck of respect. Authenticity?

No your an idiot. THEIR AINT NO RULES.

I walk and breathe this shyt. More so than 99% of this forum for a fact. I am One of the last ones left. But I am SURROUNDED by people who dont CARE and then i come on here and see a buncha made up shyt that people do care.

HIP HOP is dead my friend. Sorry to tell you this but she stinkin.

Its ok to steal written notes but not written lyrics? Its ok for jay z to take biggie lyrics but not drake taking that 4tay track?Its ok for the chronic to be seen as a goat album when the ONLY GENIUS of the album was combining MULTIPLE GENIUS created works into one album and have other GREAT rappers write the lyrics. Wont see anyone cying about the chronic being a goat album.

I grew up. I see producers selling beats with full hooks. Thats ghost writing. I see an industry where people havent written they lyrics in 15 YEARS! And yall choose to cry now.

and cuz funk flex drops a bomb and finds proof drake did it, its now an IMPORTANT point in the culture? Yall let hip hop all but destroy itself and now found morAls. How convenient.

Stfu. The culture ainy the culture. So playing by the OG rules is tired. Ive written and produced every song i ever put out IN MY LIFE. But you dont see me bytching about it online. Cuz the reality is EVERYONE USING GHOSTWRITERS.

Shout out to the kings of ghostwriting.

Dr dre
Kanye west
Eazy E
Ol dirty b*stard
Drake

DARE I SAY

nas and jay?

Im on call to write for all of you (rip dirt)


Try and take their lyrics and make a better version of their songs. You wouodnt be able to cuz hip hop is more than lyrics. I figured that out in 2001 yall are way late.

And ya drun machine/drummer anaology is fitting.

Whats realler breh? The guy who created the pattern on the drum machine or the drummer COPYING the notes...

Least the homie wit the drum machine aint using GHOSTWRITERS. Yall dont know what ya wanna thi k.

On top of that its YALL who put down rappers coming up for a variety of reasons. “The mixing is bad” “the hooks are ehhh””the production is weak”. Well those are the problems that occur when one man makes a project.

You want the big albums like kendricks where 80 other people bring “his” album to life so you can call ot classic but dont want ghostwriting..

Like insaid. Grow up. Stopconfusing culture with BUSINESS

you are a dikkhead b.

jay z using the lyrics of his homie paying homage not the same thing as drake using the lyrics of a nikka he doesnt know.

and a producer having a hook on a beat he created not the same thing as cardi b & drake having a ghostwriter. if you cant see the difference in the 2 you’re an idiot.

and you using the chronic once again shows how idiotic your argument is. producers like dre and ye can have a ghostwriter a nikka like biggie cant. a nikka like black thought cant. a nikka like pharoah monch cant. cus they brand themselves as MCs. a legend like Styles P went on the radio and basically told drake to stfu about hip hop and its rules cus he got a ghost writer and he a popstar.


nikkas like you are why hip hop is going to be whitewashed in 15 years.
 

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you are a dikkhead b.

jay z using the lyrics of his homie paying homage not the same thing as drake using the lyrics of a nikka he doesnt know.

and a producer having a hook on a beat he created not the same thing as cardi b & drake having a ghostwriter. if you cant see the difference in the 2 you’re an idiot.

and you using the chronic once again shows how idiotic your argument is. producers like dre and ye can have a ghostwriter a nikka like biggie cant. a nikka like black thought cant. a nikka like pharoah monch cant. cus they brand themselves as MCs. a legend like Styles P went on the radio and basically told drake to stfu about hip hop and its rules cus he got a ghost writer and he a popstar.


nikkas like you are why hip hop is going to be whitewashed in 15 years.
So jay can use lyrics big never okd
All other musicians can cover songs no problem
All hip hop producers can steal beats no problem
But its a problem to use a 30yr old flow/lyrics to make something new?

Na homie. Im a realist. Im actually out in these streets where hip hop CULTURE isnt even alive anymore. Its something else now. Only time people talk that way on here. Noone cares bout any of this shyt in 2018. Had you said all this in 2000 i woulda listened. The game CHANGED.

Why cant biggie use a ghostwriter on a song? cuz YOU said he cant? fukk outta here bro.

What is the difference between stealing someones notes and having ya friend write you a verse. Yea there is no difference a$$hole. If anything stealing without an ok way worse than ya friend writing a verse. You think theres a difference is whats wrong here.

Yall will make excuses for inner crew writing like that ainy the same shyt. Whats the difference between drake and that kid who was his ghostwriter on those songs and ghostface and lord superb? Ghost didnt come up wit prrb. Ghost found perb same was drake found that kid. They both did the same work.

Did drake do anything different on the 4tay track than ghost did on mighty healthy? You know ghost didnt write that bridge right?

Supreme clientele still a classic even if perb wrote 2 verses for ghost and ghost redid a couple old joints.

where were yall in 2005 thats what i wanna know. Yall allowed garbage to be made for 15 years before you found something to complain about.

Yall giving rules out to shyt like we in 1995.

ITS OVER. Play accordingly. Ot get left behind. All i see is yall shyt on the ug heads who do it all cuz they shyt aint slapping hard enough. YOU WANT GHOSTWRITING yet dont know it which is sadder. Music is the art of collaboration. People singing songs not their own sonce the dawn of time.

But some hip hop nerd said no so... last i checked noone shyt off rappers delight cuz caz rhymes got stole. Be realistic
 
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So jay can use lyrics big never okd
All other musicians can cover songs no problem
All hip hop can steal beats no problem
But its a problem to use a 30yr old flow/lyrics to make something else?

Na homie. Im a realist. Im actually out in these streets where hip hop CULTURE isnt even alive anymore. Only time people talk that way on here. Noone cares bout any of this shyt in 2018. Had you said all this in 2000 i woulda listened. The game CHANGED.

Why cant biggie use a ghostwriter on a song? cuz YOU said he cant? fukk outta here bro.

What is the difference between stealing someones notes and having ya friend write you a verse. Yea there is no difference a$$hole. If anything stealing without an ok way worse than ya friend writing a verse. You think theres a difference is whats wrong here.

Yall will make excuses for inner crew writing like that ainy the same shyt. Whats the difference between drake and that kid who was his ghostwriter on those songs and ghostface and lord superb? Ghost didnt come up wit prrb. Ghost found perb same was drake found that kid. They both did the same work.

Supreme clientele still a classic even if perb wrote 2 verses for ghost.

where were yall in 2005 thats what i wanna know. Yall allowed garbage to be made for 15 years before you found something to complain about.

Yall giving rules out to shyt like we in 1995.

ITS OVER. Play accordingly. Ot get left behind. All i see is yall shyt on the ug heads who do it all cuz they shyt aint slapping hard enough. YOU WANT GHOSTWRITING yet dont know it which is sadder. Music is the art of collaboration. People singing songs not their own sonce the dawn of time.

But some hip hop nerd said no so... last i checked noone shyt off rappers delight cuz caz rhymes got stole. Be realistic

the fact no one cares is the fukking problem.

but go ahead and bring up producers using samples like thats the same thing as having ghostwriters.

if it truly wasnt a problem the writers would be listed in the credits no problem. foh cac.
 

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So jay can use lyrics big never okd
All other musicians can cover songs no problem
All hip hop producers can steal beats no problem
But its a problem to use a 30yr old flow/lyrics to make something new?

Na homie. Im a realist. Im actually out in these streets where hip hop CULTURE isnt even alive anymore. Its something else now. Only time people talk that way on here. Noone cares bout any of this shyt in 2018. Had you said all this in 2000 i woulda listened. The game CHANGED.

Why cant biggie use a ghostwriter on a song? cuz YOU said he cant? fukk outta here bro.

What is the difference between stealing someones notes and having ya friend write you a verse. Yea there is no difference a$$hole. If anything stealing without an ok way worse than ya friend writing a verse. You think theres a difference is whats wrong here.

Yall will make excuses for inner crew writing like that ainy the same shyt. Whats the difference between drake and that kid who was his ghostwriter on those songs and ghostface and lord superb? Ghost didnt come up wit prrb. Ghost found perb same was drake found that kid. They both did the same work.

Did drake do anything different on the 4tay track than ghost did on mighty healthy? You know ghost didnt write that bridge right?

Supreme clientele still a classic even if perb wrote 2 verses for ghost and ghost redid a couple old joints.

where were yall in 2005 thats what i wanna know. Yall allowed garbage to be made for 15 years before you found something to complain about.

Yall giving rules out to shyt like we in 1995.

ITS OVER. Play accordingly. Ot get left behind. All i see is yall shyt on the ug heads who do it all cuz they shyt aint slapping hard enough. YOU WANT GHOSTWRITING yet dont know it which is sadder. Music is the art of collaboration. People singing songs not their own sonce the dawn of time.

But some hip hop nerd said no so... last i checked noone shyt off rappers delight cuz caz rhymes got stole. Be realistic
U dont know what the fukk u talkin bout and I'm saying this as someone who used to ghostwrite. I know plenty people in the industry and I know the ins and outs of the recording process. U in here making urself look like a damn fool and ur spreading misinformation and I dont give a fukk how much u rant nikka ur WRONG. U DONT know what ghostwriting is. And u DONT know what's considered ghostwriting in hip hop. One thing I fukkin hate about the internet is people can be seen and heard spreading misinformation and uninformed opinions as facts. And will argue u down till their blue in the face. This is why I HATE that this subject became such a buzzword in the last few years cause people dont know what the fukk they talkin bout. Such as u.
 

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U dont know what the fukk u talkin bout and I'm saying this as someone who used to ghostwrite. I know plenty people in the industry and I know the ins and outs of the recording process. U in here making urself look like a damn fool and ur spreading misinformation and I dont give a fukk how much u rant nikka ur WRONG. U DONT know what ghostwriting is. And u DONT know what's considered ghostwriting in hip hop. One thing I fukkin hate about the internet is people can be seen and heard spreading misinformation and uninformed opinions as facts. And will argue u down till their blue in the face. This is why I HATE that this subject became such a buzzword in the last few years cause people dont know what the fukk they talkin bout. Such as u.
Whatever bruh.

Looks to me you guys look for shyt to complain about with one artist

And the give other artists passes

Most rappers use a ghostwriter in some capacity TODAY

FACT

you wanna talk about 20 years ago do you. Today people dont care abiut any of the shyt yall crying about. Yall will shyt on a ug dude for not having mixing and great sung hooks but at same time cry abiut ghostwriting. WHICH IS IT THAT MATTETS?good music. Sung and written well. Or not?

And if someone puts kanye in their fav mcs list what you gon a do about it? Cry online like yall always do

Good music is good music. I dont have time for petty rules to give excuses for why i shouldnt like something.

Sampling is ghostwriting beats and is the FOUNDATION of the culture and YOU are crying over half a 16

Dont pretend like you didnt dissapear a few weeks ago when pressed on the drake “leaks” that he took 16 bars of a 3 verse/hook/bridge song. Yall went at his neck and never realized he took 12 bars of material and flow from dude. Didnt stop yall from crying about it for a year. But at same time have a classic mc do the same and noone cares?

Shut the fukk up already

Drake cant be a goat. Boo hoo you crybaby muthafukkas. Are you serious? LMAO. The fukk. Who cares lmao. People enjoy his music like kanyes like nas like socrates dummy. Noone cares at the end of the day.

But hooks ok now... its ok in certain situations but not others. Can yall stay consistant or not.

If yall wanna throw that label on shyt than theres only 20 REAL rap albums in history. Its the labels jobs to make shyt commercial successful and you crying cuz of some ghostwritten lyrics here and there when we champion dozens of classic albums with ghostwriting all over it.

And frankly my dude. Dead that know it all vibe. It does you no favors.

Why do you know tye lyrics to big hanks verse if ghostwriting AINT Been here from day one. Yea he stole it. You still listened didnt you. People paid homage to the bite and everything. Please.

If yall was really about it none of this shyt woulda got a pass. You make up imaginary leagues for “non ghostwriter mcs” and “ghostwriter mcs”. Stop already.
 
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Whatever bruh.

Looks to me you guys look for shyt to complain about with one artist

And the give other artists passes

Most rappers use a ghostwriter in some capacity TODAY

FACT

you wanna talk about 20 years ago do you. Today people dont care abiut any of the shyt yall crying about. Yall will shyt on a ug dude for not having mixing and great sung hooks but at same time cry abiut ghostwriting. WHICH IS IT THAT MATTETS?good music. Sung and written well. Or not?

And if someone puts kanye in their fav mcs list what you gon a do about it? Cry online like yall always do

Good music is good music. I dont have time for petty rules to give excuses for why i shouldnt like something.

Sampling is ghostwriting beats and is the FOUNDATION of the culture and YOU are crying over half a 16

Dont pretend like you didnt dissapear a few weeks ago when pressed on the drake “leaks” that he took 16 bars of a 3 verse/hook/bridge song. Yall went at his neck and never realized he took 12 bars of material and flow from dude. Didnt stop yall from crying about it for a year. But at same time have a classic mc do the same and noone cares?

Shut the fukk up already

Drake cant be a goat. Boo hoo you crybaby muthafukkas. Are you serious? LMAO. The fukk. Who cares lmao. People enjoy his music like kanyes like nas like socrates dummy. Noone cares at the end of the day.

But hooks ok now... its ok in certain situations but not others. Can yall stay consistant or not.

If yall wanna throw that label on shyt than theres only 20 REAL rap albums in history. Its the labels jobs to make shyt commercial successful and you crying cuz of some ghostwritten lyrics here and there when we champion dozens of classic albums with ghostwriting all over it.

And frankly my dude. Dead that know it all vibe. It does you no favors.

Why do you know tye lyrics to big hanks verse if ghostwriting AINT Been here from day one. Yea he stole it. You still listened didnt you. People paid homage to the bite and everything. Please.

If yall was really about it none of this shyt woulda got a pass. You make up imaginary leagues for “non ghostwriter mcs” and “ghostwriter mcs”. Stop already.
I'm not going back n forth. Im right ur wrong. Period.
 
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