Carnival Cruise are implementing some “:MJpls:, nann nikkas” policies

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:mjlol:THATS NOT DISCRIMINATION

THEY ARENT PREVENTING
ANYONE FROM ATTENDING
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Discrimination isn't just about who's allowed where, but also about what's allowed once you're there. If a company sets rules that disproportionately target one group's culture, style, or expression, that is discrimination, even if they don't explicitly say so. You don't have to bar someone from attending something to make them feel unwelcome or singled out. It's pretty clear who the rules are really aimed at looking at that list (if it's true). Do you understand disparate impact?

Disparate impact in the law of the United States refers to practices in employment, housing, and other areas that adversely affect one group of people of a protected characteristic more than another, even though rules applied by employers or landlords are formally neutral. Although the protected classes vary by statute, most federal civil rights laws consider race, color, religion, national origin, and sex to be protected characteristics, and some laws include disability status and other traits as well.

A violation of Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act may be proven by showing that an employment practice or policy has a disproportionately adverse effect on members of the protected class as compared with non-members of the protected class.[1] Therefore, the disparate impact theory under Title VII prohibits employers "from using a facially neutral employment practice that has an unjustified adverse impact on members of a protected class. A facially neutral employment practice is one that does not appear to be discriminatory on its face; rather it is one that is discriminatory in its application or effect."[2] Where a disparate impact is shown, the plaintiff can prevail without the necessity of showing intentional discrimination unless the defendant employer demonstrates that the practice or policy in question has a demonstrable relationship to the requirements of the job in question.[3] This is the "business necessity" defense.[1]

Some civil rights laws, such as Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, do not contain disparate impact provisions creating a private right of action,[4] although the federal government may still pursue disparate impact claims under these laws.[5] Although they do not contain explicit disparate impact provisions, the U.S. Supreme Court has held that the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967[6] and the Fair Housing Act of 1968 create a cause of action for disparate impact.[7] During the second presidency of Donald Trump, US agencies were ordered to stop using disparate impact in civil rights cases.[8]

The idea of disparate impact has been applied within the EU with respect to systemic discrimination and substantive equality.
 

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Discrimination isn't just about who's allowed where, but also about what's allowed once you're there. If a company sets rules that disproportionately target one group's culture, style, or expression, that is discrimination, even if they don't explicitly say so. You don't have to bar someone from attending something to make them feel unwelcome or singled out. It's pretty clear who the rules are really aimed at looking at that list (if it's true). Do you understand disparate impact?

:laff:THIS nikka IN HERE
TRYING TO EQUATE WORKPLACE
AND HOUSING DISCRIMINATION
TO NOT PLAYING HIP HOP MUSIC
AT A PARTY FULL OF DRUNKS

YALL TRY TOO HARD
:devil:
:evil:
 

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:laff:THIS nikka IN HERE
TRYING TO EQUATE WORKPLACE
AND HOUSING DISCRIMINATION
TO NOT PLAYING HIP HOP MUSIC
AT A PARTY FULL OF DRUNKS

YALL TRY TOO HARD
:devil:
:evil:

Nobody said it's the same as workplace or housing discrimination. But it's still discrimination, just a different kind. Disparate impact doesn't only apply to jobs and housing. It applies anywhere policies or practices disproportionately target a specific group, even without saying it out loud. When the only genre cut is hip-hop, while other explicit genres stay untouched, that's a pattern worth noticing. If your argument is basically "it's just a party, who cares," then you're ignoring how normalization of bias shows up in all kinds of places.

The only person trying too hard here is you trying too hard not to understand. And I'm not your "nikka."
 

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Discrimination isn't just about who's allowed where, but also about what's allowed once you're there. If a company sets rules that disproportionately target one group's culture, style, or expression, that is discrimination, even if they don't explicitly say so. You don't have to bar someone from attending something to make them feel unwelcome or singled out. It's pretty clear who the rules are really aimed at looking at that list (if it's true). Do you understand disparate impact?



Specifically listing the fans and the dance is what gave their play away.
 

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My last two cruises have been Royal Caribbean, and there were drunk unruly whites both times (small ship and big ship). Food was lackluster, and the liquor/drinks were watered down. Clubs were lame, with the exception of one night. To me, Carnival was a better experience :yeshrug:

One of the MANY reasons I'd take a Carnival cruise over Royal or Noreweigan any day, if not just for the fukkin' food.
Carnival keeps it simple as fukk. Outside decks grill basic shyt, ribs, burgers, steak. Different variety of meats for each, pause.
Inside the ship got the specialty shyt that's more geared towards the geriatrics who need specialized diets or want specific tastes.
They got sandwich joints, soup joints, and the Ghengis Khan Wok b*stards burning the shyt out of some noodles like I don't know what.
Plus the 24 hour Pizza guys on point, even if you ain't drunk.
Royal Caribbean had us walking with a plate, sniffing at rows and rows of creamy looking C-Tier chef school slop.
Chef had the heart to be outside in the line, looking to chastise people for walking around with empty plates.
"Young man, young man. An empty plate is an affront to my KEETCHEEN!"
I filled up some duck pate shyt, scooped some rice, added some greens, came by him and smiled and he patted me on the back.
I gently placed that shyt on in an elevator and sent it to the ground floor, found my keycard and went to the shytty Johnny Rocket site and got me a burger.
shyt was deplorable.
 

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One of the MANY reasons I'd take a Carnival cruise over Royal or Noreweigan any day, if not just for the fukkin' food.
Carnival keeps it simple as fukk. Outside decks grill basic shyt, ribs, burgers, steak. Different variety of meats for each, pause.
Inside the ship got the specialty shyt that's more geared towards the geriatrics who need specialized diets or want specific tastes.
They got sandwich joints, soup joints, and the Ghengis Khan Wok b*stards burning the shyt out of some noodles like I don't know what.
Plus the 24 hour Pizza guys on point, even if you ain't drunk.
Royal Caribbean had us walking with a plate, sniffing at rows and rows of creamy looking C-Tier chef school slop.
Chef had the heart to be outside in the line, looking to chastise people for walking around with empty plates.
"Young man, young man. An empty plate is an affront to my KEETCHEEN!"
I filled up some duck pate shyt, scooped some rice, added some greens, came by him and smiled and he patted me on the back.
I gently placed that shyt on in an elevator and sent it to the ground floor, found my keycard and went to the shytty Johnny Rocket site and got me a burger.
shyt was deplorable.
Is it like a buffet/food included with the ticket? I know drinks are extra
 

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My last two cruises have been Royal Caribbean, and there were drunk unruly whites both times (small ship and big ship). Food was lackluster, and the liquor/drinks were watered down. Clubs were lame, with the exception of one night. To me, Carnival was a better experience :yeshrug:
This is my same experience with RC. They were ok but Carnival put that boat to shake as far as food and entertainment. The drinks weren’t too bad though and the bartender we used the entire time kept giving us free shots because we spent so much money with him. RC only made us miss carnival
 

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Your boy just turned 41. What is this fan nonsense, and why is it vital to a cruise ship?


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The guy in that picture should know all about that fan shyt lol. I’m from the area where that song originated and old people are all about that lol. 803 Fresh cane out of Wagner Salley SC and caught him a maaajor hit. I haven’t seen a song blow up so organically in a long time.
 

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I know hip hop is a black art form, but it’s not a euphemism for “black people”. It’s used as one which is racist . Some of y’all defending a actual white supremacist talking point. It might be black created, but offensive or violent content has nothing to do with who I or my family are as human beings or “black people”. So banning hip hop is just saying we are banning certain offensive content that is not in the other songs they are playing. We can be honest about what hip hop as become. Im not obligated to hear about fukking bytches, trapping or killing because some black people rap about it. They not talking about a tribe called quest. Also A Bluetooth speaker ban is not anti-black. White people do that shyt all the time playing music in public spaces from they phone or whatever. Kids , older people don’t wanna hear that shyt. All that hood element shyt needs to stop being equated with “black people” just because we created it. And white people listen to hip hop more than anybody. So saying they can’t play the music affects them too. This is like when nice clubs ban t shirts and sneakers and people act like everybody don’t wear that. Why is it irrational for a establishment to say we are upscale and don’t want casual clothes. I don’t ever defend white folks, but again this is a white supremacist talking point to connect black people with certain stereotypes, but some of y’all use white talking points unknowingly, thinking you are defending black people . It would be different if they banned certain hair or clothing items black people exclusively wear . Something actually solely black and not hip hop related
 
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"Unfortunately, certain media outlets have blown this matter out of proportion," Matt Lupoli, Senior Manager of Public Relations at Carnival Cruise Line, told Parade.
"We have always had a wide variety of entertainment options and for the last several years we have communicated our expectations about guest behavior," he added.
Basically saying

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