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Him being on that team is LeBron's fault, the Cavs wanted to keep Wiggins but LeBron wanted Love.

How is he not responsible for that, he forced their hand in a deal they really didn't want to make. They were playing Wiggins in Summer league, they had all intentions to keep him :russ:

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Sit out the Northern California road trip to promote your "brand" brehs .



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I place the blame on Dan Gilbert and Lebron, but I would place more blame on Gilbert even more because he is allowing Bron to play him again with those moves like the first time. First off this Cavs team has about a two to three year window to win a title, but may never be able to find the right pieces to win because they formed the wrong core and took in players with these recent moves that will not resign with them because they will get better deals from other teams once they are free agents. Lebron, Kyrie, Love(once he signs his max deal), and Varejo will all be making 70 million combined between the four of them. They have to resign Tristan who is asking for 12 million, but will probably get a similar deal like Varejo. They have to pay Jr Smith 6 million next year again because of his player option. Iman Shumpert will not resign with them because they will try to low ball him, but he will find a team willing to pay him 5 to 6 million annually becuase Sefalosha got that deal from the Hawks and he is coming off the bench making that. They have to pay Mosgov 5 to 6 million another year, but he is not a true rim protector, but can rebound the ball well. Even with the Tv deal kicking in 2016, they will be well above the cap in which they are now in because of those recent deals. If I was Dan Gilbert I would have been very stern with Bron in that meet up because I would have known that I'm getting a declining player who will try to use me again because I'm coming from a losing position. The reason why they may never win is because they have tied in most of their cap money into a shaky core. Pat Riley was able to make Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Haslem, MIller, Allen, and Battier take discounts. Riley tied in most of his money into proven players, and got them to take less. Quality free agents will not be taking discounts to come play in Cleveland with a declining Bron and questionable Front Office.
 

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I place the blame on Dan Gilbert and Lebron, but I would place more blame on Gilbert even more because he is allowing Bron to play him again with those moves like the first time. First off this Cavs team has about a two to three year window to win a title, but may never be able to find the right pieces to win because they formed the wrong core and took in players with these recent moves that will not resign with them because they will get better deals from other teams once they are free agents. Lebron, Kyrie, Love(once he signs his max deal), and Varejo will all be making 70 million combined between the four of them. They have to resign Tristan who is asking for 12 million, but will probably get a similar deal like Varejo. They have to pay Jr Smith 6 million next year again because of his player option. Iman Shumpert will not resign with them because they will try to low ball him, but he will find a team willing to pay him 5 to 6 million annually becuase Sefalosha got that deal from the Hawks and he is coming off the bench making that. They have to pay Mosgov 5 to 6 million another year, but he is not a true rim protector, but can rebound the ball well. Even with the Tv deal kicking in 2016, they will be well above the cap in which they are now in because of those recent deals. If I was Dan Gilbert I would have been very stern with Bron in that meet up because I would have known that I'm getting a declining player who will try to use me again because I'm coming from a losing position. The reason why they may never win is because they have tied in most of their cap money into a shaky core. Pat Riley was able to make Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Haslem, MIller, Allen, and Battier take discounts. Riley tied in most of his money into proven players, and got them to take less. Quality free agents will not be taking discounts to come play in Cleveland with a declining Bron and questionable Front Office.

:laff: Do you realize how much money/attention even a shell of Lebron means to this man and his team? Lebron had Pat "The Don" Riley flying across country just to get a meeting and you think Dan Gilbert was in position to be stern? :mjlol: BTW Riley didn't make shyt, that MIA shyt was all Wade and Bron. This is all on Bron because he chose to go to a team that had Kyrie and Wiggins to show for 5 top 4 picks and forced them to trade away 4 years of ridiculous two-way potential in Wiggins on a rookie deal to pay Love $20 mil a year to shoot 3s and grab 10 boards and he decides he wants to chill and take it easy after the fact.
 
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:laff: Do you realize how much money/attention even a shell of Lebron means to this man and his team? Lebron had Pat "The Don" Riley flying across country just to get a meeting and you think Dan Gilbert was in position to be stern? :mjlol: BTW Riley didn't make shyt, that MIA shyt was all Wade and Bron. This is all on Bron because he chose to go to a team that had Kyrie and Wiggins to show for 5 top 4 picks and forced them to trade away 4 years of ridiculous two-way potential in Wiggins for to pay Love $20 mil a year to shoot 3s and grab 10 boards and he decides he wants to chill and take it easy after the fact.

word LeBron runs Cleveland, some of his inner circle are working for the cavs:heh:
 

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:laff: Do you realize how much money/attention even a shell of Lebron means to this man and his team? Lebron had Pat "The Don" Riley flying across country just to get a meeting and you think Dan Gilbert was in position to be stern? :mjlol: BTW Riley didn't make shyt, that MIA shyt was all Wade and Bron. This is all on Bron because he chose to go to a team that had Kyrie and Wiggins to show for 5 top 4 picks and forced them to trade away 4 years of ridiculous two-way potential in Wiggins for to pay Love $20 mil a year to shoot 3s and grab 10 boards and he decides he wants to chill and take it easy after the fact.
Gilbert being stern would've meant Windhorst releasing an article saying he rejected Bron coming back to Cleveland
 

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:laff: Do you realize how much money/attention even a shell of Lebron means to this man and his team? Lebron had Pat "The Don" Riley flying across country just to get a meeting and you think Dan Gilbert was in position to be stern? :mjlol: BTW Riley didn't make shyt, that MIA shyt was all Wade and Bron. This is all on Bron because he chose to go to a team that had Kyrie and Wiggins to show for 5 top 4 picks and forced them to trade away 4 years of ridiculous two-way potential in Wiggins for to pay Love $20 mil a year to shoot 3s and grab 10 boards and he decides he wants to chill and take it easy after the fact.
Gilbert being stern would've meant Windhorst releasing an article saying he rejected Bron coming back to Cleveland
 

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:laff: Do you realize how much money/attention even a shell of Lebron means to this man and his team? Lebron had Pat "The Don" Riley flying across country just to get a meeting and you think Dan Gilbert was in position to be stern? :mjlol: BTW Riley didn't make shyt, that MIA shyt was all Wade and Bron. This is all on Bron because he chose to go to a team that had Kyrie and Wiggins to show for 5 top 4 picks and forced them to trade away 4 years of ridiculous two-way potential in Wiggins for to pay Love $20 mil a year to shoot 3s and grab 10 boards and he decides he wants to chill and take it easy after the fact.
Gilbert being stern would've meant Windhorst releasing an article saying he rejected Bron coming back to Cleveland
 
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