Cavs growing tired of Waiters.....

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
i'm saying that he doesn't allow for other players to produce.


Dion's usage rate is almost as high as Kyrie, and is among the highest in the league, should a dude like Waiters really have such a high usage rate? Kevin Love is at 27.9, Waiters is at 26.3, if anything he doesn't fit with Kyrie cause he's the ball hog.
 

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Dion's usage rate is almost as high as Kyrie, and is among the highest in the league, should a dude like Waiters really have such a high usage rate? Kevin Love is at 27.9, Waiters is at 26.3, if anything he doesn't fit with Kyrie cause he's the ball hog.

on deaf ears bruh. mind made up about Kyrie. learn how to pass to the post bruh.
 
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i'm saying that he doesn't allow for other players to produce.
That's not what you said tho..... you blamed Kyrie for HIS lack of production, like somehow he wasn't pulling his weight.

The picture was this (prior to Deng trade):

But does the players' shooting %s say more about Kyrie's 'lack' of ability in making them better or does it say more about their actual talent and system?

CJ Miles has NEVER been any more than a bench player that shoots 41% for his career (career high 12.8 points)
Alonzo Gee has NEVER been any more than a bench player that shoot 42% for his career (career high 10.6 points)
Tristan Thompson has barely been in the league, and is still progressing as a player (still hasn't been established if he's legit enough to be a building block)
Andrew Bynum is basically a shell of his former self with all the knee issues and is struggling to shoot above 40% for the season

Is Irving directly responsible for Miles shooting 41%? Is Irving responsible for Gee shooting 40%? Is Irving responsible for Thompson shooting 43%? Is Irving reponsible for Bynum shooting 42/43%? Is Irving responsible for Waiters shooting 43%?

Miles (8 points per game on 41%)
Gee (3 points per game on 40%)
Thompson (11 points on 43%)
Bynum (8 points per game on 42%)

Waiters (14 points on 43% shooting)
Varejao (8 points on 49% shooting).

Tell me what's he suppose to do to make his teammates better and produce to get to this undefined degree of 'winning', when 99.8% of the players in the league couldn't, if they were in the same position? Like y'all are placing these unrealistic expectations on him, which is either a) you don't watch him Cavs games and just look at the W/L column or b) you just don't like the dude so you'll find any little thing to use against him?
 

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this is bullshyt if i ever seen. you steady giving that boy a pass becuz you fukk with him. if you can shyt on Melo for his bullshyt all star patches then Kyrie must be shat on. Make the playoffs Mr. #1 overall pick, ROY, three point champ. simple as that.


and i'm not saying he aint good. but if he so good then he should consistently put his team in a position to win and he dont do that bruh.

Fukk Melo. He 30. Don't nobody care to make excuses for a 30 year-old man.

Kyrie 21. And the best PG prospect since CP3, in numbers and accomplishments. Don't be mad. I only speak in facts.

Go cyse whatever non-Kyrie Flavor of the Week At Least 2 years Older Non-CP3 nygga you want...he better than them.
 

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There's a Duke bias in the league, you get some undue hate because of it.

Kyrie doesn't seem to set his teammates up as well as some of the top PG's though.
 

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Fukk Melo. He 30. Don't nobody care to make excuses for a 30 year-old man.

Kyrie 21. And the best PG prospect since CP3, in numbers and accomplishments. Don't be mad. I only speak in facts.

Go cyse whatever non-Kyrie Flavor of the Week At Least 2 years Older Non-CP3 nygga you want...he better than them.

Nah. He don't get no pass. Make the playoffs Kyrie
 
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on deaf ears bruh. mind made up about Kyrie. learn how to pass to the post bruh.
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When he was passing to Bynum down on the low block, his bum ass couldn't do shyt with the ball which would result in him a) indirectly turning the ball over b) passing straight back out of the post cause he was too FNS to establish a deep enough position c) missing a shot......... ultimately killing the lil' momentum the Cavs did have on the offensive end.
 

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That's not what you said tho..... you blamed Kyrie for HIS lack of production, like somehow he wasn't pulling his weight.

The picture was this (prior to Deng trade):



Tell me what's he suppose to do to make his teammates better and produce to get to this undefined degree of 'winning', when 99.8% of the players in the league couldn't, if they were in the same position? Like y'all are placing these unrealistic expectations on him, which is either a) you don't watch him Cavs games and just look at the W/L column or b) you just don't like the dude so you'll find any little thing to use against him?

My stance doesn't change. I still blame him.
 

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When he was passing to Bynum down on the low block, his bum ass couldn't do shyt with the ball which would result in him a) indirectly turning the ball over b) passing straight back out of the post cause he was too FNS to establish a deep enough position c) missing a shot......... ultimately killing the lil' momentum the Cavs did have on the offensive end.

fukk that. That boy admitted to not knowing how to properly feed the post.
 
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