Cavs need to bring out the 2015 Blueprint

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How many bunnies did the Warriors miss? :usure:

How many times did the Cavs fukk up their rotations and let dudes stroll into the paint? :usure:

How many times did Klay turn into Barnes on open looks? :usure:

And despite all that the Warriors still had a 109.7 ORTG for the game. They got what they wanted when they wanted - it would've been a bigger blowout if they didn't let their nerves get the best of them in the first half.

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JR Smith literally ran away from Durant on switches AT LEAST twice :laff:
 

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thing is, when Durant is on, no one on the Cavs can stop him. Bron got embarrassed multiple times today, and no way in hell can love or kyrie or jr do anything. tristan isnt bad around the rim but he cant hang on the perimeter or in midrange.

cavs best hope should be for KD to have an off game while kyrie/love have good shooting games. otherwise it could get ugly, especially if klay finds his shot
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
How many bunnies did the Warriors miss? :usure:

How many times did the Cavs fukk up their rotations and let dudes stroll into the paint? :usure:

How many times did Klay turn into Barnes on open looks? :usure:

And despite all that the Warriors still had a 109.7 ORTG for the game. They got what they wanted when they wanted - it would've been a bigger blowout if they didn't let their nerves get the best of them in the first half.

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Teams miss layups, you and I both know that, it's not like they were shooting well below what the average is for finishing in the paint. It's pretty obvious the Cavs made it a point to give up 2s as opposed to threes as well.

Klay has been Harrison Barnes all playoffs to this point.

The Cavs defense in this game wasn't as big of an issue as the turnovers, the Warriors had 21 pts off TOs and sped up the pace of the game beyond what the Cavs typically play at.
 
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Whatever they do post up or pick and roll they need to do it slowly and deliberately, no fast breaks for the warriors and no turnovers.



glue Kevin love to the bench.
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Nah, just the opposite. That was the issue with their offense in the first half of the Finals last year. I spoke on this in detail; Lue wanted them to speed things up before the Warriors defense got set, and ultimately that was how they got back into the series. You play a halfcourt game with this Warriors D and they'll swallow you whole. You have to run your actions early against them. It's the only way.

You would think that the team facing the Golden State Warriors in The Finals would want to slow the pace down.

But Cleveland Cavaliers coach Tyronn Lue said Friday that he wants his team to play faster in Game 2 on Sunday (8 p.m. ET, ABC).

“I need [LeBron James] to pick up the pace for us offensively, getting the ball out and just beginning to play faster,” Lue said. “Pace, so we can get up the floor and get guys open shots in transition like J.R. [Smith]and Kevin [Love] and Channing [Frye] and those guys. But I think the floor’s more open when you’re able to play with pace and LeBron and Kyrie [Irving] can get downhill.”

It may seem silly for the Cavs to try to play at the Warriors’ pace, but offensive pace and defensive pace are two separate things. The Cavs can do their best to slow down the Warriors while also getting into their offense earlier.

And the numbers say that the latter would be prudent. League-wide, shooting percentage goes down with the shot clock. And in Game 1, there was a big difference between the shots the Cavs got in the first 12 seconds of the shot clock and the shots they got in the last 12 seconds.

In the initial shot clock (not counting shots after an offensive rebound or situations where the shot clock was off), Cleveland shot 52 percent in the first 12 seconds of the clock and only 33 percent in the last 12 seconds, according to SportVU.

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But the Cavs took more than twice as many shots late in the clock as they did early in the clock on Thursday. In the regular season, the Cavs took 48 percent of their shots in the first 12 seconds of the shot clock, a rate which ranked 23rd in the league. They have guys who can bail them out in late-clock situations, but Lue would rather his team not get into those.

Transition offense starts with a stop on defense, but Lue wants his team to push the ball off both makes and misses.

“We’re playing against a half-court defense, they’re switching 1 through 5, they make you stagnant and make you play one-on-one basketball because that’s all you can get,” he said. “So if we pick up the pace and play with a faster tempo offensively, I think we’ll be fine.”
 

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Nah, just the opposite. That was the issue with their offense in the first half of the Finals last year. I spoke on this in detail; Lue wanted them to speed things up before the Warriors defense got set, and ultimately that was how they got back into the series. You play a halfcourt game with this Warriors D and they'll swallow you whole. You have to run your actions early against them. It's the only way.
blehhhhhh numbers make me sick
fukk that it's captain caveman time throw bows and club these dub ass fakkits to death
:troll:shut up you fukking nerd

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Teams miss layups, you and I both know that.
There's a difference between "teams" missing layups, and the bunnies that the Warriors missed. You saw all those uncontested shots at the rim they usually make. I counted about 4-5 in the first half. That would've brought their FG% up to 47%, and even a greater ORTG than 109/110.
It's not like they were shooting well below what the average is for finishing in the paint.
The Cavs don't have any rim protection. The Warriors points in the paint % weren't anywhere near indicative of how many easy shots they got in the paint.

You and I both know that. :mjpls:
It's pretty obvious the Cavs made it a point to give up 2s as opposed to threes as well..
Which makes it even worse since Tristan is their only big man who can contest shots.
Klay has been Harrison Barnes all playoffs to this point.
If you acknowledge that his shot has been off for the entire playoffs, why use the Warriors FG% in argument for the Cavs' defense not being that bad when Klay shot 3-16, as if they were holding him to low percentages?
The Cavs defense in this game wasn't as big of an issue as the turnovers, the Warriors had 21 pts off TOs and sped up the pace of the game beyond what the Cavs typically play at.
What's it gonna take for you to see that the Cavs' defense ain't shyt? :sas2:
 

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The referees need to get their shyt together.

Iggy hacks Bron on the arm,no foul.

Green hooks Lebron,foul on Lebron.

Iggy pulled Loves jersey,no foul

Durant stepped out the bounds on a baseline layup,2 pts for GS.


That's 7-9 points right there.
 

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There's a difference between "teams" missing layups, and the bunnies that the Warriors missed. You saw all those uncontested shots at the rim they usually make. I counted about 4-5 in the first half. That would've brought their FG% up to 47%, and even a greater ORTG than 109/110.

The Cavs don't have any rim protection. The Warriors points in the paint % weren't anywhere near indicative of how many easy shots they got in the paint.

You and I both know that. :mjpls:

Every team misses chippies, it happens. My point still stands that the Cavs turnovers was a far bigger issue than their defense was in this game, it's game over if you have that many turnovers against the Warriors. The Warriors had been hanging 120+ ORTG on other teams, at this point holding them to a 109 should be looked at as not bad.


If you acknowledge that his shot has been off for the entire playoffs, why use the Warriors FG% in argument for the Cavs' defense not being that bad when Klay shot 3-16, as if they were holding him to low percentages?

You brought him up to begin with, and they had shot 50% for the playoffs with him playing like garbage to begin with and the Cavs had them at 42.5% today :hubie:

What's it gonna take for you to see that the Cavs' defense ain't shyt? :sas2:

You been acting brand new lately, like I wont be right there with you making threads about how no team from the 90s could beat this Warriors team if they win the title :leostare:
 
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Every team misses chippies, it happens.
It does happen, but it was uncharacteristic of the Warriors to miss a handful of them in one game where there was little to no contest on the shot. It was more nerves and having one week off, than the proverbial. Like I said, they got what they wanted, when they wanted.
The Warriors had been hanging 120+ ORTG on other teams, at this point holding them to a 109 should be looked at as not bad.
Those 4-5+ missed shots make all the difference, which is why their FG%/ORTG is misleading. I can't remember the last time the Warriors had so many easy shots in the paint, as well as missing so many easy shots in the paint. It'll even out across the series. You think the Cavs are gonna keep them to low 40% shooting for the remaining games?

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You been acting brand new lately, like I wont be right there with you making threads about how no team from the 90s could beat this Warriors team if they win the title :leostare:
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Judging by your posts this season it seemed like you threw the Warriors in the bushes and took LeBron back in.
 
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@Gil Scott-Heroin u think Cavs gon push the pace to have a better chance

Or is Cavs gon be stuck in their ways and go slow
I know Lue will want them to push the ball, but I don't know how long LeBron will last playing at that tempo. As you know he can't rest on defense like he did last season. They've got no hope in hell if they resort to LeBron posts up as their go-to play tho.
 

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I know Lue will want them to push the ball, but I don't know how long LeBron will last playing at that tempo. As you know he can't rest on defense like he did last season. They've got no hope in hell if they resort to LeBron posts up as their go-to play tho.
Slowing it down is even more dangerous since Durant excels in isos. Slowing it down could throw off Steph and Klay's rhythm some but Durant would murder in a slow game. Cleveland definitely needs to push the ball and try and limit turnovers to have any shot at all. Warriors communication is just too great on defense to let them get set. The sad part I think the Cavs may be too old to play that kind of pace. I don't see Lebron playing 40 plus with how much he's being made to work. It seemed like he was drained by the third quarter.
 

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This is what I said earlier in the series thread. They are playing exactly how the Warriors want them to play. They need to play a slow, physical, halfcourt game and exploit what few mismatches that they have.
Kd wouldnt have no problems
 
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