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I negged you for your pathetic act of following me around and dappin everyone that takes shots at me. You do it in every single thread.

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I came in a Cavs thread to discuss Cavs basketball and then I noticed CantStop was making excellent points and I discussed his points. Get off your high horse you weirdo
 
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I came in a Cavs thread to discuss Cavs basketball and then I noticed CantStop was making excellent points and I discussed his points. Get off your high horse you weirdo
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I never expected you to admit it, but this is some horrible ass lying. Try to be a bit more believeable next time.
 
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This is how much you believe in Mudiay. You won't even take a bet with odds heavily favored for you. Terrence Ross scored 51 one game and you still won't even take that chance. Kwame Brown had a heigher ceiling than Dirk too. What's your point?.
This is how corny y'all Lakers fans are. And I don't know why I need to keep repeating myself on this. I made a passing comment one day on how Mudiay had a higher ceiling than D'Angelo, and then y'all took that shyt and spun it into your own lil agenda that y'all do with every Lakers player. Yall wouldnt have said a cot damn thing if Dlo wasn't on the Lakers. Y'all are never interested in having a genuine discussion about anything, but just to push this x-Laker > narrative over and over again, with no awareness of reality or facts.

I don't even know why you're bringing up any other players for, when you spent most of the offseason hyping dude up to be a superstar and then instead of eating that crow after being proven wrong, you try to sweep it under the carpet by deflecting with straw man shyt.
Mudiay's ceiling is so high that he's DNP-CD because the Nuggets are just waiting to unleash their secret weapon. #alternativefacts.
If you had bothered to pay attention to the Nuggets situation, and stopped being a cornball, you wouldn't be recycling this tired attempt at humor.
 

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Kyrie hell of a offensive player but this nikka defense look like the browns secondary

why? Kyrie is the one letting russel score like this :gucci:

but Kyrie has a beautiful game :francis:

Y'all are just seeing how god awful kyrie defense is

Nah its Kyries team
Kyrie should have won FMVP
Kyrie is carrying bron
etc.....

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There are people who go off absolutely nothing other than offense who will say, "Kyrie had an amazing game!" and ignore that he just became the first person in history to let D'Angelo fukking Russell score 40 points.



And this nikka Lebron has the nerve to say he needs more help smh. Kyrie, Love and role players are more than enough. :francis:

I took you serious for a second and was like, how the hell this guy saying that after a 125-120 over the damn tanking Lakers?

But all the Cavs need are role players, it's not like they need another all-star 'sides Bron and Kyrie. If they had a good defensive guard who could at least hit threes, a stretch four who could play a little defense, and a backup big who could protect the rim, they'd be dominant. But every one of their guards has only offense or defense but none both, they stretch fours can't play defense worth shyt, and they don't have a backup big at all. Lebron and Kyrie with a couple shooters can handle the O fine, but defense suspect as fukk.


Y'all LeBron stans should be happy that there's a dude next to him that can pick up his game when it matters. Why push this passive aggressive bullshyt after the game he just had?

On a similar note - the D'Angelo/Kyrie exchanges in this game were :wow:

I see aggressive, not passive aggressive. And it's because Russell scored 40 and they barely beat the freaking Lakers having to play the whole 4th to do it.

And you're basing the idea he can pick his defense up mostly on last year's Finals and not much else, right?
 
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There are people who go off absolutely nothing other than offense who will say, "Kyrie had an amazing game!" and ignore that he just became the first person in history to let D'Angelo fukking Russell score 40 points.
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I can see you never watched the game. Why am I not surprised.
And you're basing the idea he can pick his defense up mostly on last year's Finals and not much else, right?
It's not as simple as that, especially given the fact that this is the first season where Wall has been scoring at that clip. I mean Kyrie put up 25 ppg on 57 TS% throughout the playoffs last year (sprinkled with a # of 30-40+ games on ultra-high efficiency), and helped co-anchor a championship offense. Up to that point, for all Wall's playmaking and scoring he didn't have that sort of impact.

While Wall is the better defender (margin isn't as great on a general scale - especially when Kyrie ups his activity level in the playoffs), defense at the PG position is the least important of all the 5. And with Wall's offensive workload his defense has been wildly inconsistent, even to the point of him not even attempting to stay in front of his man during stretches. Being the better defender only matters in this context if you're actually having impact there on a regular basis, otherwise less-able defenders can have similar/same impact by just being able to work within the confines of abilities, and fulfilling their roles within the defensive scheme.

As a side note: Irving's defense throughout the majority of the playoffs was borderline great (mainly during the first 2-3 rounds), especially down the stretch of games where he'd make plays like this -




Kyrie doesn't just raise his game on offense in the playoffs (that includes his playmaking - it was basically a 60/40 split between LeBron and him during the EC-run), but his defense too. He can be bulldog when he wants to be.

The main thing to look at here is not which player is the better defender, passer, scorer etc etc, but exactly who has the most impact. Because at the end of the day, that's all that matters. Just look at somebody like Gobert who arguably has more impact than any other big in the game - dude has a limited offensive skillset and is mostly reliant upon others to score. Although in saying that he is a pretty good passer and has good touch around the rim. But it's because of his defense that leads him to having more impact than arguably every other big man in the game (even the likes of edit: Brook Lopez who has greater offensive ability and can be a #2 option).

Once you realize that these archaic positional takes are simply red herrings and start looking strictly at the impact a player has, regardless of what position that you've been fooled into thinking a player is or should be or roles they should adhere to, you'll start to see a clearer picture of what's actually going on.

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I see aggressive, not passive aggressive. And it's because Russell scored 40 and they barely beat the freaking Lakers having to play the whole 4th to do it.
D'Angelo didn't score 40 because of Kyrie, D'Angelo scored 40 because he got hot (like he has done in the past) because of the Cavs horrible help defense, never mind the fact he scored on multiple players and not just on Kyrie.

p.s. LeBron played his part in the Lakers putting up 120 - don't go pointing the finger at eveyone besides him.
 
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It's hilarious how LeBron stans have the nerve to go around looking down on OTHER players in Ws, players who're pivotal in them actually winning the game. Fast forward to the playoffs and if the Cavs don't win a title it'll be all about how the rest of the team didn't do enough. I can just see it now.

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So you're confirming that you're basing the idea that he elevates his defense for the postseason on one postseason, right?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I want you to be right because I'm rooting for the Cavs to be great, but I'm not confident there's a whole lot of predictive power there.
 
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