Two plays? Two plays?
Two plays?
Does the obvious really need to be stated for you that they were simply
examples and that I didn't need to post every single clip I could find of his assists/passing? He's had a number of plays like that this season. The point is he's capable of making plays like that, despite you believing otherwise. Did you not watch him when he was handling the ball when he won 6MOY in NY? Did you not see Love being one of the main ball-handlers/shot creators when he was in Minny? Do you not know that Love is one of the more talented passing big men in the league?
Yes 2 plays. Showing me 2 plays does not bring evidence that you want him being a full-time ball-handler. Like I said to someone else, in 33 minutes a game in his 6MOY season he averaged 2.7 assists...for someone who's a "capable" ball-handler and "ran PG" that does not help your argument.
What did Minnesota achieve with Love being a prolific shot creator? What seed in the playoffs did they achieve? Being a talented passing big is fine, this doesn't mean he HAS to be a point center. This season in particular has been Love's best in Cleveland because he's been #2 instead of #3.
I've come with facts, historical trends and evidence and all you've thrown back is conjecture, half-truths, and nescience.
Except he's expanded his game, I've already told you he's become
more effective on defense, without the ball and playmaking, but he hasn't become a "complete player"; very few players in NBA history become "complete players" at his age. Again, it sounds like you aren't watching enough Celtics games, that you seem to think he's the same ole player, and hasn't expanded his game.
Kyrie started the year better on defense but began trending downwards as he got going offensively. A center averages more APG than him and the guard you say is a horrible ball-handler is not far behind him. More spot-up jumpers =/= more complete player.
Jaylen can create his shot better than Love now? Y'all LeBron stans are shameless.
You want Love dribbling around the perimeter and taking smaller, quicker PFs in a smallball league to the hole now? Love is best at creating his own shots when he's in the post. An ISO in the post is a lot different than an ISO 20 feet out.
Why can't you explain why the Celtics offense falls off a cliff when Kyrie isn't on the court if they have all these "shot creators/ball-handlers" that a team like Cleveland didn't have, despite Cleveland having a far greater ORTG when LeBron isn't on the floor? Why can't you explain why they're near top in the league in areas on offense which Kyrie is involved in (ISO, P&R ball-handler, spot-up etc), yet near the bottom in areas he isn't as involved in? Why do the Cavs have a far superior ORTG if they don't have these "shot creators/ball-handlers"?
Maybe the Cavs have a good ORTG without LeBron because when he isn't on the floor Wade is running PG? The same Wade you wanted on the bench behind more cold-than-he-is-hot JR? You got wanted you wanted and he proved to be quite valuable as a 6th Man, did he not? Wade is a better creator than anyone on Boston but he was used more when Bron was off the court than on.
Cavs fans have wanted more ball movement for a long time now, even before IT and Rose were on the team. Ball movement means just that, moving the ball, that means everyone touches the ball - that means JR gets to touch the ball more,
Love gets to touch the ball more, everyone in the lineup gets to touch the ball more. Everyone's contributions leads to
running the offense.
If Love needed to touch the ball more you're basically saying he should've been the #1 option.
You just insinuated Brown can create his shot better than Love can - I think it's safe to say you're the one who's actually failing to value their skills properly.
AS BALL-HANDLERS
Wade > Smart
Rozier > JR
Tatum & Brown > Whatever wing combo you'll think of, basically Crowder, one dribble Korver, and/or Green
Horford = Love > Frye let alone TT
The last couple of games in Cleveland have featured more ball movement and less LeBron ISO. So, obviously there's more faith in this new group handling the ball more than the previous one. Rightfully so.