Centuries-old mummified monk found meditating in Mongolia

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...d-meditating-monglia-report-article-1.2095566

How's this for dedication?

The mummified remains of a meditating Buddhist monk have reportedly been discovered in Mongolia with early estimates suggesting it being at least 200 years old.

Tuesday's stunning find reported by the country's Morning News revealed an ash-colored man sitting in a pensive lotus position, with no visible decay.

It was discovered inside of the Songinokhairkhan province, but exactly where and how was not released.

He was additionally described as found covered with some kind of cattle skin.

The human remains were taken to Ulaanbataar National Centre of Forensic Expertise for further study, according to the report.


It's been suggested that the man was a teacher of the famous Lama Dashi-Dorzho Itigilov whose body was found eerily preserved — also seated in the lotus position — after his own death in 1927.

Here is a picture of Itigilov:

And his mummified remains:

Spoiler

"In 1955 and in 1973, Itigilov's body was examined by Buddhist monks, who were astonished to observe no signs of physical decay. They were too reluctant to divulge their finding to the antireligious authorities of Communist Russia and the body remained in situ until 2002.

On 11 September 2002 Itigilov's body was eventually exhumed in the presence of the leaders of the Buddhist Traditional Sangha of Russia. The body was transferred to Ivolginsky datsan (a residence of today’s Hambo Lama) where it was closely examined by monks and also by scientists and pathologists. The official statement was issued about the body – it was "in the condition of someone who had died 36 hours ago", very well preserved, without any signs of decay, with whole muscles and inner tissue, soft joints and skin."

 

[88m3]

eerie

 

[Cabbage Patch]

No visible decay, my ass. What's with the cattle skin? Makes me think of that movie with aaron eckhardt when he got sewn into the cowskin and then slow roasted over a fire, for a horribly torturous death (so tortuous, I wondered which Euro the Indians borrowed it from). But if he was peaceful....

How does anyone know if someone dies peacefully? Remember the thread with the woman whose husband cut off her head and how peaceful her face looked? That kind of thing.

 

[east oakland usa]

shout out to the nigggz who just dont wana fukkin die lol

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

No visible decay, my ass. What's with the cattle skin? Makes me think of that movie with aaron eckhardt when he got sewn into the cowskin and then slow roasted over a fire, for a horribly torturous death (so tortuous, I wondered which Euro the Indians borrowed it from). But if he was peaceful....

How does anyone know if someone dies peacefully? Remember the thread with the woman whose husband cut off her head and how peaceful her face looked? That kind of thing.

I think the no visible decay comment was in reference to the monk that died in 1927 based on their early observations, not necessarily their 2002 findings although I am not sure on that.

Im not sure is possible to know if someone dies peacefully..but chances are if anyone really does its a high end monk. They tend to know when its their time to go and just find peace through meditation through it. Although it is hard to believe, it is even possible that the protesting monk who died while fully on fire was even relatively peaceful. There was no change in his body actions even when he was lit ablaze.

In 1926 Itigilov advised the Buddhist monks to leave Russia, since "the red teaching was coming to land", himself choosing to remain in the country. A year later, aged 75, he asked other lamas to begin meditation ceremonies and funeral rites, since he said he was about to die. Lamas did not want to perform this meditation because Itigilov was still alive. As a result, Itigilov began to meditate alone until other lamas joined him and soon his body ceased to breathe.

Itigilov left a testament asking to be buried as he was at the time of his death, sitting in lotus posture. According to his wishes, his body was put into a pine box and interred at a bumkhan (a graveyard for the lama burials) in the locality of Khukhe-Zurkhen (Dark-blue Heart in Buryat language). One of the testament clauses stipulated that his body should be exhumed by other monks within several years. This clause is interpreted by enthusiasts to demonstrate Itigilov's precognisance of his body's incorruptibility.

A report by Al Jazeera states that the body had been preserved by being packed in salt[2] and shows recent footage of the body being removed from this salt, although the reporter was not clear about when the salt was first applied.

The Buddhist monks approach him as a living person and shake hands with him. Some devotees even claim that Itigilov is still alive, only immersed in a hibernation- or nirvana-like state.

On 23 April 2003, the Buddhist conference recognized the body of Dashi-Dorzho Itigilov as one of the sacred Buddhist objects of Russia. At that time, they laid the foundation stone for a temple entitled Itigel Khambyn ordon and consecrated to Dashi-Dorzho Itigilov. As of 2005, Itigilov's body was kept outdoors, in contact with other people, without preserving any temperature or humidity regimens.

In April 2013, Vladimir Putin went to Buryatia to "hold a conversation" with Itigilov and other lamas.

 

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In Moscow, Vladislav L. Kozeltsev, an expert at the Center for Biomedical Technologies, the institute that keeps the body of Lenin — who died in 1924 — in state on Red Square, said the salt in the coffin might have slowed the decay but could not alone explain the preservation of the lama's body.

Other factors may include the soil and the condition of the coffin. More likely, Mr. Kozeltsev said, Itigilov suffered from a defect in the gene that hastens the decomposition of the body's cellular structure after death.

 

[the cac mamba]

being a monk

what a waste of your life

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

being a monk

what a waste of your life

i co-sign them more than most other religious figures

 

[the cac mamba]

i co-sign them more than most other religious figures

so do i

but still

 

[Cabbage Patch]

so do i

but still

I guess, at the end of the day, if it came down to a choice between sex, wealth, power and inner peace.......... one should go with inner peace? (AKA make the choice Paris didn't -- except Greeks don't think like that anyway. I wonder why?)

Maybe inner peace makes the rest moot. If you have inner peace, the rest follows -- or doesn't. Doesn't matter, inner peace is the higher reward.

 

[the cac mamba]

I guess, at the end of the day, if it came down to a choice between sex, wealth, power and inner peace.......... one should go with inner peace? (AKA make the choice Paris didn't -- except Greeks don't think like that anyway. I wonder why?)

Maybe inner peace makes the rest moot. If you have inner peace, the rest follows -- or doesn't. Doesn't matter, inner peace is the higher reward.

idk man, gimme that other shyt

to each their own

 

[OsO]

that stamina

 

[bouncy]

Those monks can do things with their body most people can't. I remember seeing a special on them in 1999, and it showed them heating up their bodies to the point they were sweating BUT, the kick to it is that they were in a cave that was covered in snow. AND they were just covered with a thin piece of cloth.

Then I read they could slow down their metabolism on command, just by thinking! I think these mummified monks just slowed down their metabolism in the cold to the point that their system slowed down enough to get preserved.
What if they planned to come back through some type of skill we don't know about?


http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/04.18/09-tummo.html
Meditation changes temperatures:
Mind controls body in extreme experiments


http://physiologyonline.physiology.org/content/13/3/149
Meditation as a Voluntary Hypometabolic State of Biological Estivation

 

[IShotTheSheriff]

More likely, Mr. Kozeltsev said, Itigilov suffered from a defect in the gene that hastens the decomposition of the body's cellular structure after death.

He wouldn't allow himself to get even in death

 

[Cheesy]

in Tibetan Buddhism (which is also practiced in parts of mongolia and russia) a lot of the practices are to be prepared for death, this just shows how prepared the higher lamas really are

there are quite a lot of stories about the way they die, the story of the 16th Karmapa always has me especially since he died in an American hospital, so there are actually non-Buddhist doctors to confirm.

The 16th Karmapa died in 1981 in a hospital in Chicago. The body did not rot in that time and the heart region was warm. Dr. Levy cared for him until his death:

• "Early the next day he died actually. We saw the change on the monitors. The heart pulse changed in a way, that clearly shows that the heart fails. (...) With all the drugs we could not get him high again. We continued to work, gave medications, and then his heart stand still. I realized that it was over. You could see his heart die on the monitor. This was the point when I gave up. His Holiness had been lying there dead about 45 minutes. We started to pull out the feeding tube, when I suddenly saw that his blood pressure was 140 to 80. My first reaction was that someone leans against the pressure monitor. It was impossible that he became alive again. Then a nurse screamed: "He has a good pulse! ! He has a good pulse." One of the older Rinpoche patted me on the back, as if he wanted to say:" It is impossible, but it happens." The heart rate of His Holiness was 80, his blood pressure 140 to 80th in that moment. No one said a word now. It was a moment of "That does not exist. It can not be." It was clearly the greatest miracle that I had ever seen. I mean, it was not only an extraordinary moment. It happened an hour after his heart beating had stopped. I ran out of the room to tell Trungpa Rinpoche, that His Holiness is alive again. I had the impression that His Holiness returned to try if this body can still carry his spirit. So he came back to see if his body was still usable. Only the power of his returning consciousness could do that."

• „48 hours after his death, his chest was still warm. In this moment, my hands were both warm, and his chest was warmer than my hand. In order to test this, I moved my hands to the side of his chest, away from his heart, and there it was cold. I then felt the middle again, and above his heart it was warm. I pinched his skin and found that it was still elastic and completely normal. After 36 hours, the dead typically have skin comparable to dough. And his skin was still like that of the living after 48 hours. It was as if he weren’t dead. Shortly after we left the room, the surgeon came and said, „ he is warm, he is warm.“ And then it came to be that the medical staff asked again and again if he were still warm. It was naturally consistent to the traditional Tibetan experience. Developed individuals like his Holiness stay in their bodies after breath and heartbeat have stopped, within a state of deep meditation. After three days the Samadhi ended. It was recognized that his Holiness was no longer warm and that the process of death set in. After this, the atmosphere changed, it too became normal.”(Quotes buddhismus-heute.de)

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  for more on the 16th Karmapa, search for The Lion's Roar, been a while but I remember it being a good documentary