Chainsaw Man Manga Thread

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So in theory this chapter is one that should hit, but it really doesn't. Like, it makes sense for Denji to see Barem and lose control because he is responsible for Nayuta's death in his eyes. Though as the reader, he is so forgettable that we just don't care, imo. What happens next could be interesting with the doors.
 

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They should just make it a gag. Barem keeps popping up and being eaten instantly. I wouldn't have been mad at a bye week just to add a few more pages this week and give us more impact. Hopefully, the doors are the start of a primal fear arriving and an actual fight. This seemed like the setup chapter for a genuine scrap.
 

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Took a week off for 6 pages:what::martin:
Fuji losing the plot:francis:
I think we all talked about this earlier in this thread (and a similar convo in the JJK thread)


On a binge read of part 1 you don't even notice or care how short the chapters are because you didn't have to wait for next week, just felt like a continuous story and shyt was hype

I noticed the same thing here in part 2, when I go 3-4 weeks without reading and then read me all at once, shyt is :ohlawd: again.
 

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Also, I know logically, Denji is a weirdo loser as an MC, always getting distracted by hoes.


But Fujimoto somehow still makes me understand his struggle and root for this idiot :russ: I went back to the chapter where they told Denji the plan to save the world, but neither he or us got to hear it cuz he was completely zoned out staring at Death devil's camel toe

Even though I don't agree with it I understood it completely :dead: next panel nikka in the nurse bed STRESSED cuz he didn't hear the plan at all and didn't have the balls to ask them to repeat it :laff:



reminds me of when we thought he was gonna use the extendo chains in a reasonable way to fight Typhoon and Bomb, but he just ends up using Beam like a fukking horse :dead: you still wanna root for his dumbass, it's like watching Forrest Gump forreal
 

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We're definitely in the final stretch. Pochita vs Yoru. Meanwhile, we've got Denji and Asa bonding coming up, I assume. Their dynamic and moments have been lacking, so see if Fujimoto got anything left for that.
 

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Petty Vandross.. fukk Yall
If Asa And Denji are fukking siblings
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So, we're closer to a resolution. Pochita's not gonna eat Yoru because Denji's happiness is the whole point of their contract and losing Asa would break the deal. But that leaves the conundrum of "how do you stop Yoru without killing Asa in the process?"

It does make sense that Yoru should beat Lil D, since that would doom the entire human race. But it's tough to see where this is going. I can't even think of a good solution at the moment. Maybe Pochita can make a contract with Asa, and that'd let Chainsaw Man and Yoru fight in Asa's heart or some nonsense...but more likely, we're stuck in a spot where Fujimoto can deliver his readers what he loves the most...

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So finally decided to binge all of Part 2. Have a ton to say about it, lol :mjlol: Read this whole thread as well.

Up to volume 17. (chapter 151-53 or so) I thought it continued to be really enjoyable read and at the same time, I realized I was never really going to love this series. I appreciate and respect Fujimoto's unrelenting drive for doing whatever the fukk he wants with his stories, and using this manga space as a medium to tackle a bunch of themes, but the way he uses characters as empty canvasses for his theming will never fully click with me.

After volume 18 (up to chapter 218) two things happened from my perspective:

1.- The Aging Devil arc was by far the most interesting and consistent work in all of Part 2, which made me look forward to what happened next, but....

2.- After the Aging Devil arc the series once again went all over the place with Fujimoto indulging in very repetitive behavior to get to the this final confrontation with War Devil.

The past 30 chapters or so made me realize I don't give a flying fukk about Denji anymore. I don't care about any of the characters really, because Fujimoto just uses them to drive home a point for a couple of chapters and then repeats a cycle to either repeat the same point or make a new one. Denji having such a fukked up life and struggling to deal with stuff while being pulled from every direction by Devils or horrible human beings is a good starting point for your MC. But when 200 chapters in you still use your MC as a dumb, horny teenager who can never get it right no matter how many times he faces similar problems in front of him, it stops being funny (when used for that purpose) and as a reader I just don't care what happens with him just like Denji feels about himself every 10-15 chapters. I read @T-K-G post about what else to expect from a guy like Denji at this point -specially from an author like Fuji- and honestly, it's not that I want or need him to go through a generic shounen MC journey, just give me some more creative stuff with this moron, I feel like I read the same ol' shyt for 100+ chapters.

Asa was a very interesting character that also got stuck in an endless loop. The fact her biggest development was realizing that shooting herself was OK is Fujimoto as his Fujiest :dead:

Every other new character in Part 2 fukking sucked tbh. That hurts because the story doesn't have any stakes, doesn't have any characters worth following week to week and Fujimoto refuses to write funny or cool interactions for longer than a couple of panels every few chapters. Nayuta was an awesome idea for a character to play with but she was disposed waaaaaay too early and for the same reason characters in Part 1 got got: we have to make Denji feel miserable.

The action has turned into a borefest as well. With the series not having any power system or real power level (besides the fuzzy "fear" stuff), it just a bunch of behading and gore pannels that at this point it's more of the same, really. What was innovative or new years ago has become stale, imo. I was expecting more creative ways for these battles -you don't need a power system for them-, specially because they take way longer to build than part 1. The only time I felt Fuji was truly cooking was the Aging Devil stuff.

I'm glad I binged read because I would've absolutely dropped this if I followed it with each new release. Binging at least makes it flow better and it's just an easy read that it's a breeze to get through. But the fact remains that Part 2 is a huge step down from Part 1. Fuji just got too into his own shyt and while I salute him for being able to get away with it in Jump+ with a freaking shonen series, it's not a story that really grabs you even on a surface level. Once this story is done I'll come back to it.

PS: I have no fukking clue how 70% of what's been done in Part 2 will be adapted, let alone how an anime series could sustain itself. Before getting to the Aging Devil you are gonna be asking the anime audience A LOT of patience and I'm not sure they can get to the good stuff in a potential season 3 (going by the logic that season 2 finishes Part 1):russ:

Also, gotta say that reading @tripleaamin and @storyteller 's posts was entertaining as hell. Going from excitement to bewilderment to defeat to coping was :dead: Halfway through Part 2 I realized there's no real big story to "salvage" in a future arc or a Part 3. This is Fuji's playground to vent about the shyt that bothers him or entertains him. There's no big payoff, he doesn't write for one, imo. He has ideas/themes in mind and going on a journey to show them in manga form. It's kind of a masochist version of Hideaki Anno's depressed self in the 90's, lmao.

Denji getting a handy was the series peak.

Which may be an indicator that it was mid the entire time. For as much as people try to hype this shyt to seem like avant garde tastemakers, this is one of the more forgettable manga I've ever read.

Like 80% of this series is a blur of grossout panels, weird humor and denji being weirdly endearing in his loserdom. For the life of me though I couldnt articulate what actual story is being told here. Especially with part 2
I don't think Part 1 was mid. The level of praise/enjoyment will always vary depending on each reader but Part 1 had a clear direction and all the satiric/meta stuff hit way better than Part 2. Going from WSJ to Jump+ gave Fuji more time to rest and more leeway in the amount of content each chapter has, but the lack of editing is evident in Part 2. It's pretty clear no one wants to reign him in anymore.

I wonder how it will feel on a binge.
By chapter 190 or so it truly hits how repetitive everything is and how stuck in mud every character is. It's not even 1 step forward two steps back kind of feeling. It's a "about to make a step forward but ends up no moving" type of situation.
 
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Aint no way im reading all of that @Jmare007 but if you're just catching up in part two i can make a wild guess


This is Fujimoto's culling games, whatever plan he had for this part fell flat early with how slow the story went, fumiko was cool and a typical deranged chick type of way but everyone else is forgettable and the whole chainsawman imposter plot was confusing and boring at the same time. We should've stuck with Denji working at the agency with new fiends and agents

I walked away from this latest chapter thinking the characters head getting chopped off lost it's impact a long time ago, damn near everyone regenerates at a high rate so what's the point in doing it anymore

And some of these panels are just too wild for me to understand what ever happened



How close was i? :lolbron:


if Mappa is smart they ask fuji to rewrite the beginning of part 2 and cut alot of the fluff out
 

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Aint no way im reading all of that @Jmare007 but if you're just catching up in part two i can make a wild guess


This is Fujimoto's culling games, whatever plan he had for this part fell flat early with how slow the story went, fumiko was cool and a typical deranged chick type of way but everyone else is forgettable and the whole chainsawman imposter plot was confusing and boring at the same time. We should've stuck with Denji working at the agency with new fiends and agents

I walked away from this latest chapter thinking the characters head getting chopped off lost it's impact a long time ago, damn near everyone regenerates at a high rate so what's the point in doing it anymore

And some of these panels are just too wild for me to understand what ever happened



How close was i? :lolbron:
Not really that close :russ: I didn't even think about JJK or doing any comp with it :pachaha:

Asa is the only character worth a damn in this story. I've completely given up on Denji as someone worth caring because Fujimoto doesn't really want me to care about him, he's just a canvas that gets reset every few chapters for him to repeat a joke, repeat a theme/message or try some new shyt without much continuity of previous events. Make a weapon out of him and let's see what happens with Pochita next, I'm truly OK with not reading more Denji.
if Mappa is smart they ask fuji to rewrite the beginning of part 2 and cut alot of the fluff out
That one you got 100% right :bryan: I did post about how the fukk this could get adapted in a season 3 of the anime without huge, potentially cancelling a series level backlash, lmao.
 
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