Chargers lock up Herbert 5-years $262M contract. Richest contract in NFL History.

[28 Gramz]

Staley shoulda been fired last year. This is a bottom 3 defense.

Chargers are 2nd in points per game since Herbert's first year, he's not the issue.

 

[Black Miller]

seems like everyone else getting blamed except herbert. in these close games, he should be able to close them out. they was close enough to get a game winner TD and he had to settle for a FG today. i do agree the coach is trash and should have been fired after that playoff game.

they was up 27-0, and he was on the field going 3 and out and all that leading to that comeback. can't keep blaming the coaches, front office. every year, teams predict he gonna beast based on his offense, well if you that good, outscore these teams. even last week, lost right at home.

 

[Piff Perkins]

If Staley was black he would have been fired last year.

 

[Dem313wayz]

seems like everyone else getting blamed except herbert. in these close games, he should be able to close them out. they was close enough to get a game winner TD and he had to settle for a FG today. i do agree the coach is trash and should have been fired after that playoff game.

they was up 27-0, and he was on the field going 3 and out and all that leading to that comeback. can't keep blaming the coaches, front office. every year, teams predict he gonna beast based on his offense, well if you that good, outscore these teams. even last week, lost right at home.

You're defense blows a 27 point lead how is that Herbert fault?

This guy is supposed to be a defensive guy yet his defense for 3 years been terrible.

Not to mention they are leaders in penalties.

Eckler called Staley out last week on the lack of attention to detail.

He should have been fired last year but the Chargers owners have always been cheap

 

[Black Miller]

You're defense blows a 27 point lead how is that Herbert fault?

This guy is supposed to be a defensive guy yet his defense for 3 years been terrible.

Not to mention they are leaders in penalties.

Eckler called Staley out last week on the lack of attention to detail.

He should have been fired last year but the Chargers owners have always been cheap

You're up 27-0. As QB you see your defense falling apart. You can't get no first downs to keep them off the field? You ain't have no part in it when the game got tight and you having quick 3 and outs?

Your team defense was good enough to go up 27-0. So you can't add nothing to the lead during the 2nd half?
If you putting that all on the defense then why you spend all that money on Herbert and not address the defense since they are all at blame.

You couldn't wait to pay Herbert until you upgrade the defense? If everything I'm saying is wrong -Then you right my man. Herbert had nothing to do with it. He had nothing to do with them missing the playoffs the last 2 years before right? Oh yeah it's Anthony Lynn fault too. Seem like it's everyone fault but I keep hearing they nice on offense. Then that offense should show they nice in close games.

Dude putting up nice stats but it's empty calories when they need him.

Even today, he led them to overtime when he coulda closed that out. They was in the red zone with less than a minute left. But I guess that was the defense fault King since they did lose it in overtime.

 

[SadimirPutin]

More accomplished Black QBs gotta holdout for there's and don't get the luxury and having it the coaches fault

I have no particularly strong opinion on Herbert but I always look at how black and non-black QBs are evaluated online and boy it is 2 different universes

 

[IIVI]

Let me go and first say that I really like Justin Herbert. Dude isn't the typical NFL QB. Just seems like. real down-to-earth, non "bro" cat. Got a shytload of potential too.

That said, at the end of the day he still is lacking some of the fine details a more polished QB has. Still an athlete playing QB than a highly-athletic QB. That's why the coaching choice is so important compared to someone like Tua who's been playing the position his whole life and needs a little less coaching up. Remember, there's still a reason why this guy was the 3rd QB taken that draft. Dude has done his part showing everyone he's a good QB, but he needs someone to have him break some ceilings.

I was really hoping the Chargers would go after Eric Bienamy this off-season. The dude still hasn't looked as exciting as his rookie year with Anthony Lynn, but even then I'd still say he would've struggled because like they say once they got film on you it can get tough. Nonetheless, Staley was a real downgrade in comparison. Now Herbert can't get those 2nd, 3rd and as it stands 4th year of NFL schooling back. This is how a front office can absolutely cap a player's potential.

 

[No1]

I have no particularly strong opinion on Herbert but I always look at how black and non-black QBs are evaluated online and boy it is 2 different universes

So in law, we do something called applying the law to the facts. So the law or the belief in this case is that white QBs and black QBs are evaluated differently despite similar circumstances. So we should look for facts to support that improper activity. So name one similarly-situated QB to Herbert who is non-white that has been judged differently? You can’t because there’s no example of it. What faux-militants like @Surreal fail to realize is that they hurt more than help black people because they’re crying wolf and so actual examples of discrimination then hold less power because they’re watering down the argument.

Find me the current black NFL quarterback drafted to one of the worst organizations in sports, who had his former head coach that he liked fired, and had his coach with 0 head coaching experience continuously failing at the one aspect of his job he was hired to do? Now find me the comparable black QB who threw for the most yards over the first 3 years of his career in NFL history, who has a GM that has been around despite making the playoffs like 3 times in 17 years, who has a defensive coach with a defense that has trailed in most major categories every single year, that is the first QB in NFL history to average over 300 yards passing with like 3 TDs and no turnovers over his first two games and start 0-2 (hint: this hasn’t happened in our lifetimes unless you’re dumb old), and I can go on.

The only comparable comparison to Herbert on the Chargers is Deshaun Watson in Houston and no one blamed him. Lamar was treated unfairly compared to Josh Allen, and Tua got a lot of shyt with all that was changing around him. But Justin Fields has gotten every excuse and opportunity - his team has a terrible play caller just like Herbert’s - but at least show me signs. Point is, the past couple of years may be the worst time in NFL history to say on the field that black QBs are being held to a different standard. The internet idiots are who they are but by and large it just isn’t the case.

 

[Dem313wayz]

Staley arguing with reporters last night cuz he know he ain't getting the job done but let's blame the QB

The better point made would be a white HC not getting fired when a black HC would have already been let go

 

[Yayo Toure]

Lamar had to fight for his bread while Herbert and Burrow had such a hype machine behind them they didn't have to even negotiate to get this money.

Both of them losing while Lamar winning.

 

[No1]

Let me go and first say that I really like Justin Herbert. Dude isn't the typical NFL QB. Just seems like. real down-to-earth, non "bro" cat. Got a shytload of potential too.

That said, at the end of the day he still is lacking some of the fine details a more polished QB has. Still an athlete playing QB than a highly-athletic QB. That's why the coaching choice is so important compared to someone like Tua who's been playing the position his whole life and needs a little less coaching up. Remember, there's still a reason why this guy was the 3rd QB taken that draft. Dude has done his part showing everyone he's a good QB, but he needs someone to have him break some ceilings.

I was really hoping the Chargers would go after Eric Bienamy this off-season. The dude still hasn't looked as exciting as his rookie year with Anthony Lynn, but even then I'd still say he would've struggled because like they say once they got film on you it can get tough. Nonetheless, Staley was a real downgrade in comparison. Now Herbert can't get those 2nd, 3rd and as it stands 4th year of NFL schooling back. This is how a front office can absolutely cap a player's potential.

He’s no worse than any of the other QBs in his age group - he just has the worst infrastructure out of all of them. I agree with you that he has some refinements but nothing so drastic that a team with him can’t make a run right now. The Chargers are just a shyt franchise and always will be. They were too cheap to give up that first round pick (their third WR and sometimes 4th) for Sean Payton. It’s not like Payton has elevated a Chargers QB before…

 

[IIVI]

He’s no worse than any of the other QBs in his age group - he just has the worst infrastructure out of all of them. I agree with you that he has some refinements but nothing so drastic that a team with him can’t make a run right now. The Chargers are just a shyt franchise and always will be. They were too cheap to give up that first round pick (their third WR and sometimes 4th) for Sean Payton. It’s not like Payton has elevated a Chargers QB before…

Yeah that's what I'm basically getting at, his development has been hindered badly when he look at his rookie year and compare his trajectory to his peers. Josh Allen by his 3rd year had a team to compete with the Chiefs because management built one and put the right pieces.

Chargers still have OL issues, haven't got dude a true next generation weapon and still has coaches that are entirely clueless. Meanwhile they had Anthony Lynn who's helped build one of the league's highest rushing attacks out in SF and Shane Steichen who just went to the Super Bowl with the Eagles. Dude may possibly have been a top 3 QB by now.

 

[No1]

Yeah that's what I'm basically getting at, his development has been hindered badly when he look at his rookie year and compare his trajectory to his peers. Josh Allen by his 3rd year had a team to compete with the Chiefs because management built one and put the right pieces.

Chargers still have OL issues, haven't got dude a true next generation weapon and still has coaches that are entirely clueless. Meanwhile they had Anthony Lynn who's helped build one of the league's highest rushing attacks out in SF and Shane Steichen who just went to the Super Bowl with the Eagles. Dude may possibly have been a top 3 QB by now.

I actually think their offense will eventually be explosive under Moore. This is the most freedom he has ever had to make calls at the line. The problem is the defense is last in the league.

https://x.com/benbbaldwin/status/1703558655310737688?s=20

 

[IIVI]

I actually think their offense will eventually be explosive under Moore. This is the most freedom he has ever had to make calls at the line. The problem is the defense is last in the league.

https://x.com/benbbaldwin/status/1703558655310737688?s=20

Yeah, I actually think Moore is a good choice. I still preferred EB, but what Moore did in Dallas was really good.

The thing I'm looking at right now is his ability on the run, that has really looked worse than it did his rookie year. Again though, that could very well be because the league now has a lot more footage on him. Staley really needs to figure something out. 3 coaches over 5 years or the same coach producing mediocre results next year is a tough choice to make.

Chargers mismanaged the start of his career badly because they listened to fans demanding change and in doing so let go of a veteran headcoach who went to the NFCCG last year and an OC who went to the Super Bowl last year.

 

[drifter]

He’s the reason they’re even competitive you idiot. Again, this dude is like the least polarizing guy in the NFL and there’s just a weird ass coli faux-militant contingent that hates the kid for no reason.

This website has complete dumbasses on it

With talking points not much different than barbershop talk except instead of looking around to see if people are laughing and nodding with the wild shyt they said they give each other message board points. Don't expect too much out of em