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i first saw nikko doing a convo with kulinski and thought he seemed knowledgeable but his tulsi stanning and also hes very jimmy dore esque, i feel like hes always exaggerating things like hes up on some conspiracy. couldnt fukk with him
 

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i first saw nikko doing a convo with kulinski and thought he seemed knowledgeable but his tulsi stanning and also hes very jimmy dore esque, i feel like hes always exaggerating things like hes up on some conspiracy. couldnt fukk with him

He’s not stupid which is sort of what makes what he does worse
 

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I just got around to listening to this. It was a shyt show both ways kinda :laff: But I love how Niko had that cocky attitude but got humble real quick after the Michael Brooks deal. Dude was on that pizza gate shyt for real tho? I’m always saying the tulsi supporters are just this election cycles Ron Paul voter. Dude was talking out of both sides of his mouth. Talking about he was an OG sanders fan but constantly shyts on Sanders to prop up Tulsi. And how come no Tulsi can come up with a concrete answer to her support for Hindu nationalists, torture use, Assad support, flirtation with trump early on, etc.
 

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I just got around to listening to this. It was a shyt show both ways kinda :laff: But I love how Niko had that cocky attitude but got humble real quick after the Michael Brooks deal. Dude was on that pizza gate shyt for real tho? I’m always saying the tulsi supporters are just this election cycles Ron Paul voter. Dude was talking out of both sides of his mouth. Talking about he was an OG sanders fan but constantly shyts on Sanders to prop up Tulsi. And how come no Tulsi can come up with a concrete answer to her support for Hindu nationalists, torture use, Assad support, flirtation with trump early on, etc.

Thank you for listening. One thing for
Sure is that he knew a lot of what I said was true and he had no answer for it. I caught him off guard early. There is so much he could have clowned me on but he did no research on me, none. He didn’t expect me to be knowledgeable at all. A shyt show was what I wanted and I got it

But the language shyt is where I really stung him early. If this was a fight I would have been a flash knockdown wit lots of points taken away
 

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Thank you for listening. One thing for
Sure is that he knew a lot of what I said was true and he had no answer for it. I caught him off guard early. There is so much he could have clowned me on but he did no research on me, none. He didn’t expect me to be knowledgeable at all. A shyt show was what I wanted and I got it

But the language shyt is where I really stung him early. If this was a fight I would have been a flash knockdown wit lots of points taken away

What is he? Dominican?
 

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What is he? Dominican?

He said in Portuguese he’s “from Rio” yet he said nothing back to me in Portuguese and was silent on Lula, his Portuguese also made no sense in context. I think that’s the only thing he knows how to say. My responses and me calling him a son of a bytch he should have caught that lol
 

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this is accurate and i understand your annoyance.

I have no experience or knowledge of the guy you debated, so I just took it in as a good faith argument from both sides, which could either be very generous or minimally fair to him.

He seemed like he was definitely carrying water for Tulsi pretty hard but had an ok yet disingenuous read on Bernie and where she outflanked him to the left on the foreign policy stuff.

As far as your side of things, (again I have no previous knowledge of dude or y’all interacting), I thought your jokes and punchlines hit and that your criticism of him brushing off your work was right on as far as what a progressive should place importance on.

What I think could be improved upon going forward if you do more of these types of things, is to get your jokes off and then bring things back to some level of policy discussion. There were a couple of times where you were able to do it and a couple times where you couldn’t circle back.
Some of that was due to him interrupting you, which you actually did a stunningly great level of just letting him talk and then going in.

One debate that you could watch that would highlight how to do this is Michael Brooks vs Sargon.
He traps Sargon for not answering his questions directly over the whole debate but is still able to lay out his points.

It’s definitely something that would come with practice/experience, but I just wanted to bring it up to try and help you improve. Just my thoughts tho.
 

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I have no experience or knowledge of the guy you debated, so I just took it in as a good faith argument from both sides, which could either be very generous or minimally fair to him.

He seemed like he was definitely carrying water for Tulsi pretty hard but had an ok yet disingenuous read on Bernie and where she outflanked him to the left on the foreign policy stuff.

As far as your side of things, (again I have no previous knowledge of dude or y’all interacting), I thought your jokes and punchlines hit and that your criticism of him brushing off your work was right on as far as what a progressive should place importance on.

What I think could be improved upon going forward if you do more of these types of things, is to get your jokes off and then bring things back to some level of policy discussion. There were a couple of times where you were able to do it and a couple times where you couldn’t circle back.
Some of that was due to him interrupting you, which you actually did a stunningly great level of just letting him talk and then going in.

One debate that you could watch that would highlight how to do this is Michael Brooks vs Sargon.
He traps Sargon for not answering his questions directly over the whole debate but is still able to lay out his points.

It’s definitely something that would come with practice/experience, but I just wanted to bring it up to try and help you improve. Just my thoughts tho.

i havent legit debated anyone since college and that was in 2006, i am an experienced collegiate debator but its been so long, me personally not liking him aside, i was rusty but i still followed my notes and followed my points. his insults werent funny, they were mean spirited and came across like genuine vitriol, my shyt was hittin. but more than anything, i respected the format, i didint intrrupt him besides one jadakiss laugh and the world war 3 shyt.

Niko for all his so called intelligence, struggled against me, he is always challanging people to debates, always trying to lure people into his game but he didint do too well with someone who could play just as dirty but also maintain the knowledge and wisdom to counter his points.

michael is 10x bettet than me at this because the nikka is just fukking good. youre right about his interrupting me, him interrupting me is like in URL when the crowd wont shut up.

thankyou for your support homie im serious. youre right, im rusty but i felt like i came out on top, he seriously talked ihimself into a grave and came across like a jerk. his unfunny insults, his "if you were smart enough you would have not gone to war"9/11 hadnt happened yet when i enlisted.

Again, the whole lanaguage debacle, i geuinely felt like like he knew he was in for a real one from the jump, also him continuing to tag me, tag michael after the fact, i felt like i really shook his confidence because he keeps trying to push the beef, but for me its over. unless like i said at the end othe debate, he got family in oakland> let e know when you here, we can carry it however. but regardless, you can tell how passionate i am by the issues i cover, like i said, next week is infant mortality rates among women of color.

he knows in his heart that he didint come out of this lookign great.

Also, one BIG thing that came out of this??


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Sameera kahn contacting me and letting me know she loved the debate and shes coming on my she week after next

:shaq:

the positive and constructive feedback from you guys made me feel greatr
 

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I watch and expect fukkery, but I agree with the others who have said circling back to your more serious positions would be beneficial.

I look forward to seeing your platform continue to grow.

I did my best after being rusty. As @DonKnock pointed out when Niko actually followed the rules I did well with that. The criticism is justified but When I circled back to my point I was finally able to show my intellectual prowess , thank you for the criticism
 

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i have to assume a tulsi stan has a crush on her and cant really stick to a debate on real issues for more than 5 minutes without taking it personal
 

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Just finished watching this and I am disappointed with your performance here. You doing all this "cracker" talk and as soon as a nikka called you out on it, you prop Michael Brooks up and start Juelzing on why he's an exception. You come off as a try hard and debate at the level of a nikka that has binge watched the Majority Report. Don't brute force your platform into being a fukking MR sister site, stand on your own two feet and debate facts and leave your personal stories out it unless it's actually worth mentioning.
 
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