Chicago Bakery labor issues pits blacks vs Hispanics

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You a cac?

The Haitian people would like a word with your ignorant ass. In fact this grade school girl who don't even know what twitter is is more educated than you are on the matter.


What a great video. And refreshing too. I love the fact that is getting taught in Haiti.
 

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It's not about fighting for the bottom, its about fighting for *something* You can ignore this while hundreds of Black folk with better than fast food jobs get tossed on the street for illegal immigrants. We can worry about better salaries and benefits next.
Fight for something of value. :stopitslime:

Like I've said from the beginning if you want to fix the problem then you have need to address the source. You need to ramp up the penalties and actually audit these businesses and hiring agency's that are are using illegal immigrants.

A wall doesn't fix this. A roving deportation force running the streets causes more harm than good in the long run, but still doesn't stop the cycle of catch, deport, catch deport because there are still jobs.

We can agree that illegal immigration affects a lot of blacks.

We should also agree that this is due to the makeup of the black labor force, education levels, etc.

Fixing B, in my opinion, is more important.

Co-opting trumpian immigration policies does little if anything at all for B. :manny:
 

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Fight for something of value. :stopitslime:

Like I've said from the beginning if you want to fix the problem then you have need to address the source. You need to ramp up the penalties and actually audit these businesses and hiring agency's that are are using illegal immigrants.

A wall doesn't fix this. A roving deportation force running the streets causes more harm than good in the long run, but still doesn't stop the cycle of catch, deport, catch deport because there are still jobs.

We can agree that illegal immigration affects a lot of blacks.

We should also agree that this is due to the makeup of the black labor force, education levels, etc.

Fixing B, in my opinion, is more important.

Co-opting trumpian immigration policies does little if anything at all for B. :manny:

Right now people are losing their jobs. They need help holding on to the jobs they have or are losing. I think it's elitist to say these aren't valuable jobs to the people who work them. If you were working at McDonalds and got a $3-4 hour plus benefits come-up working in that plant, that's a real value for you and your family.
 

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Right now people are losing their jobs. They need help holding on to the jobs they have or are losing. I think it's elitist to say these aren't valuable jobs to the people who work them. If you were working at McDonalds and got a $3-4 hour plus benefits come-up working in that plant, that's a real value for you and your family.

Sure, but it's still below the poverty line. It still isn't an actual living wage in the city.

If saying people should aspire to work for a living wage is elitist then we've lost all concept of what we should be working towards as adults in this country.

Get it how you live though. :manny:
 

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It’s sounds like you don’t truly understand how at the bottom blacks are...
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We NEED those low wage jobs.

They are stepping stones.

Your ‘get a meaningful job or nothing at all’ approach is the most naive thing I’ve seen you post.



Edit: :russ: @ the insinuation that a living wage is on the table anywhere in this country. Do you want blacks to hold their breath?
 

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@Call Me James
It’s sounds like you don’t truly understand how at the bottom blacks are...
:wow:
We NEED those low wage jobs.

They are stepping stones.

Your ‘get a meaningful job or nothing at all’ approach is the most naive thing I’ve seen you post.
I'm fully aware of how far at the bottom blacks are.

That's the entire premise of why we should spend more time address the issues that keep us at the bottom at a disproportionate rate.

The fact is when you're at the bottom and working low skilled jobs you're more likely to get fukked over. You're also more likely to stay at the bottom.

And no, min wage jobs are not stepping stones to well paying jobs.

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The nerve of a man against a living wage telling blacks they need to aspire for low wage jobs.
 

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Even those who do get a raise often don’t get much of one: Two-thirds of minimum-wage workers in 2013 were still earning within 10 percent of the minimum wage a year later, up from about half in the 1990s. And two-fifths of Americans earning the minimum wage in 2008 were still in near-minimum-wage jobs five years later, despite the economy steadily improving during much of that time.
 

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I tried to get a job at Ferrera Candy at one point. The factory in Bolingbrook :francis:
Half the town's covered with warehouses full of low wage jobs. And its mostly black and brown folks commuting out here from the city and near west suburbs.
 

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To what nikka?

That is an outdated model that no longer applies.

It’s Getting Harder To Move Beyond A Minimum-Wage Job

It’s definitely much harder to move up but you gotta start somewhere...

This isn’t to say wages are not important or that this warehouse job will lead to 6 figures but there is value in just working, period.
Discipline and a whole host of skills many brothas and sistas are in desperate need of.

I also believe it’s important for children to see their parents(father especially) and the adults around them employed.
:manny:
 
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