Chicago Police Shoot 16 Yr Old...Of course there is a protest

[Ronnie Lott]

I never, EVER, take the "what about Black on Black crime" route. But that was the FIRST thing I thought when I saw the entire hood out protesting. All I could think and wonder is if they get up and protest like this when all them n!ggas get gunned down by other n!ggas so far this year in the Chi. Now, I know that there's been sprinkles of lil "rallies for peace" here and there, but not like this. There's NEVER this level of outrage and disgust.

More stupid ass c00n posts

 

[Ronnie Lott]

yea...for the most part its ghetto folks involved in dumb shyt.

Yall need to stop acting like innocent college kids are getting shot in the back of the head by cops in large numbers.
Its dumb black and white people who end up in stupid situations that this type of shyt happens to.

Just because someone is black doesnt mean they are like you.
Yall caping for people that would have no problem shooting you.

I see how you tried to convientleconvein throw who're people in there to disguise your c00ning

 

[blackzeus]

Cop wasn't wearing a body cam, dashcam doesn't show the shooting.

Why is probably why the shooting happened. What saddens me is that the Constitution on some of the posters in this thread. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? How many CACS take pictures with guns? Any of y'all live in his neighborhood? The only difference between Bieber and this kid is money and skin color, we all do retarded sh*t as children, more so if we have no positive role models, that doesn't make us automatic criminals

 

[jwinfield]

I hate to say it but damn, ima play devils advocate, especially since this is chicago and we know how shyt go over there. if he was killed by another gang banger, would we care as much and protest?

There are rallies against violence all the time in Chicago.

Now, I know that there's been sprinkles of lil "rallies for peace" here and there, but not like this. There's NEVER this level of outrage and disgust.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/u...gued-by-systemic-racism-task-force-finds.html

Racism has contributed to a long pattern of institutional failures by the Chicago Police Department in which officers have mistreated people, operated without sufficient oversight, and lost the trust of residents, a task force appointed by Mayor Rahm Emanuel has found.

“C.P.D.’s own data gives validity to the widely held belief the police have no regard for the sanctity of life when it comes to people of color,” the task force wrote. “Stopped without justification, verbally and physically abused, and in some instances arrested, and then detained without counsel — that is what we heard about over and over again.”

In a city where whites, blacks and Hispanics each make up about one-third of the population, 74 percent of the 404 people shot by the Chicago police between 2008 and 2015 were black, the report said. Black people were the subjects in 72 percent of the thousands of investigative street stops that did not lead to arrests during the summer of 2014.

Three out of every four people on whom Chicago police officers tried to useTaser guns between 2012 and 2015 were black. And black drivers made up 46 percent of police traffic stops in 2013.

“The community’s lack of trust in C.P.D. is justified,” according to the report, a draft summary of which was first reported in The Chicago Tribune on Tuesday afternoon.

The report also condemned aspects of the city’s contracts with police unions, calling for changes to clauses that they said “make it easy for officers to lie in official reports,” ban anonymous citizen complaints and prevent the department from rewarding officers who turn in rule-breaking colleagues. The contracts, the task force concluded, “have essentially turned the code of silence into official policy.”

This is why there are protests every time a cop kills a minority because they "feared for their life"

 

[jwinfield]

One of the US’s biggest police departments has a deal that helps it get away with filing false police reports

According to the report, the city's collective bargaining agreements allow Chicago police officers to wait 24 hours after a shooting to provide a statement, giving them time to confer with other officers and get their story straight.

The 24-hour grace period isn't the only agreement that works to officers' advantage. According to the panel's report, Chicago police can amend statements after viewing video or audio evidence.

And not only are anonymous complaints against officers prohibited, accused officers must be given the names of people who filed complaints against them, the report found.

 

[soulfuljah]

Now if what were talking about is taking a photo holding a gun
then that same photo making its way to the news after you get off'd

it is what it is ...your gonna look guilty of whatever these devils say you did

and 80% of your fb photo's ain't all of em...I'm sure(really just hoping) he or his mom had some photo of him without a strap
the news decided to use the photo that made dude seem guilty
even if he is
why did you need to choose that photo? what do you really gain by doing that?
who are you doing that for?
that shyt right there is foul, especially when its this noticeable
cause they don't do that shyt to white folks...for some reason their image gets protected
but when its a black man

that train is never late

no... I don't feel as if every person of color is instantly innocent when killed by the boys
but I refuse to believe just any narrative..
I just know how the devil uses his tools

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm not ignoring the fact that he made it too easy.

Growing up in Alabama, my folks always told me that I have to be smarter, "cleaner," and work harder than the white man, so don't play yourself and play the hand that they try to deal you. Again, look at my post; I clearly said that it wasn't fair and life ain't fair, but regarding those pics, he played himself. Can you really be mad at the "devil" when you know how they operate and you constantly fall for the trap? Is dude guilty? I don't know and won't have an opinion of whether the shooting was justified until all of the facts come out.

And regarding the news and white folks, there are some cases where whites are shows in a negative light (as far as pictures are concerned). Nowadays, they will put anything up for views..

 

[soulfuljah]

What saddens me is that the Constitution on some of the posters in this thread. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

That's not explicitly stated in the Constitution, or if read, can really be assumed. IIRC, it was a historical notion that the burden of proof lies on the accuser and not the denier but it has been adopted in some UN bylaws.

 

[blackzeus]

That's not explicitly stated in the Constitution, or if read, can really be assumed. IIRC, it was a historical notion that the burden of proof lies on the accuser and not the denier but it has been adopted in some UN bylaws.

Fifth Amendment

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Due Process of Law

Fundamental procedural legal safeguards of which every citizen has an absolute right when a state or court purports to take a decision that could affect any right of that citizen.

Since when do the guilty need to go through a due process of law? We only do that here because you need to be lawfully judged by your peers, meaning there needs to be a case made for and against your purported criminal actions, of which your peers will decide whether or not you are guilty.

 

[soulfuljah]

Fifth Amendment



Due Process of Law



Since when do the guilty need to go through a due process of law? We only do that here because you need to be lawfully judged by your peers, meaning there needs to be a case made for and against your purported criminal actions, of which your peers will decide whether or not you are guilty.

Again, the Constitution doesn't state guilty until proven innocent. The Due Process of the Law stated in the Constitution is just that; it doesn't have anything to do with the innocence or guilt of an individual but what's laid out in the 5th, 6th, and later 14th amendments e.g. told of crime, impartial jury, speedy trial, equal protections of the law, not being subject to "cruel and unusual punishment," can't be forced to incriminate yourself, etc.

And the guilty go through the due process of the law all the time; that how a lot of them are found guilty.

 

[NoMayo15]

It's a very interesting thing that we see story after story like this, yet more often than not, when some young white kid goes on a shooting rampage, if they don't one themselves, they are apprehended unharmed. I still believe the police is much more cavalier in using deadly force against people of color than their white counterparts, but I also understand why some people might accept as truth the word of the cops in this instance. Regardless of if the shooting was justified, it's still a damn shame.

 

[blackzeus]

Again, the Constitution doesn't state guilty until proven innocent. The Due Process of the Law stated in the Constitution is just that; it doesn't have anything to do with the innocence or guilt of an individual but what's laid out in the 5th, 6th, and later 14th amendments e.g. told of crime, impartial jury, speedy trial, equal protections of the law, not being subject to "cruel and unusual punishment," can't be forced to incriminate yourself, etc.

And the guilty go through the due process of the law all the time; that how a lot of them are found guilty.

 

[soulfuljah]

Not really. You made a statement "Since when do the guilty need to go through a due process of law?" and I answered it saying that everyone is afforded due process. *shrugs*

Totally unrelated, @the quote in your sig...

 

[Ghost Utmost]

I tend to mistrust the police.

I downright hate black people who make a sport of shooting other black people.

I'm exhausted of all this madness.

I don't know Breh

 

[PhonZhi]

If dude ran from and pointed a gun at the cops, I will not cape for him...but I call none of our people savages. We get dehumanized enough from everyone else, I'm not going to contribute and treat people in the hood like they are some other ethnic group or species.

Lots of em dehumanize and call THEMSELVES "savages" breh

 

[PhonZhi]

even if their violence is misdirected in the short term we should be working to raise their consciousness

I agree 100% but its hard to do this with hiphop culture promoting and glorifying THE EXACT OPPOSITE of everything that needs to be done away with (extreme materialism, viewing other black people as the enemy, promiscuity, gang culture, drug use/dealing, leading a criminal lifestyle, unintelligence,etc). Hiphop culture makes these things seem "cool" to young, impressionable minds.

Knowledge of self and our past history as a people are the keys to turning this around. Its the key to "waking up" and gaining a sense of personal and racial pride.

Learning WHY black people are in the state we are in is an eye-opening revelation. This must be taught and spread on a mass level.

Hiphop culture(as it is today with its destructive messages) will not allow the youth's consciousness to be raised. Its keeping it at a low level. That of zombies: