Chicago's Quest for Perfection - The genius of Thibodeau

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Vogel? :heh:

Thibs is amazing, no question about it. He could have any roster in the league fighting for a playoff spot with his defensive schemes. I dont think he gets enough credit for his offensive sets either, great movement and passing every night. Knows how to create shots for shooters and maximize every players strengths.

He needs to be careful over running his players though and his rotations can be confusing sometimes, but they have gotten tighter this season.
 

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You talking like top 15 players at their position get selected on the regular.



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Bobcats:

PG: Kemba Walker/Ramon Sessions
SG: Gerald Henderson/Ben Gordon
SF: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist/Jeffery Taylor
PF: Hakim Warrick/Tyrus Thomas/Byron Mullens
C: Bismack Biyombo/Brendan Haywood

Bulls:

PG: Kirk Hinrich/Nate Robinson
SG: Richard Hamilton/Marcus Belinelli
SF: Luol Deng/Jimmy Butler
PF: Carlos Boozer/Taj Gibson/Vladimir Radmanovic
C: Joakim Noah/Nazr Mohammed

The Bobcats have more depth.

You could argue they have the more talented team on paper too. I'd give the edge to the Bulls in the frontcourt, but the backcourt - shyt is heavily in favor of the Bobcats.

How many other coaches in the league right now could be successful with the Bulls backcourt? Maybe one. And that's a maybe.

Did you see my thread on both the Bulls and Hawks?

Really none of this is going to win you games in the playoffs without :deadrose: . Honestly, Charlotte roster isn't impressive talent wise or production wise. Kemba and MKG are two to three years away from reaching their talent and they aren't close to reaching their potential.
 

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yall got 2 all stars and atleast one former all star stop with this fringe player bs

no one had :noah: or deng as all stars when this season started. hell, deng was sposed to have surgery on his wrist originally.

boozer hasn't been to the all star game in like 5 years either :comeon:

also, we got a starting PG who shoots 35%FG.
 

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no one had :noah: or deng as all stars when this season started. hell, deng was sposed to have surgery on his wrist originally.

boozer hasn't been to the all star game in like 5 years either :comeon:

also, we got a starting PG who shoots 35%FG.

That pg is and has always been a top defensive pg

Deng is the same player the bulls thought so much of they refused to trade him for Pau

He was always seen as having AS potential
 
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Wow now the bobcats have a better roster than the bulls...I've heard it all now

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You gonna sit there and tell me at the start of the season, a rotation of Kirk Hinrich, Richard Hamilton, Nate Robinson and Marcus Belinelli are better than having - Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Ramon Sessions and Ben Gordon?
 
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Did you see my thread on both the Bulls and Hawks?

Really none of this is going to win you games in the playoffs without :deadrose: . Honestly, Charlotte roster isn't impressive talent wise or production wise. Kemba and MKG are two to three years away from reaching their talent and they aren't close to reaching their potential.

Of course they not gonna win shyt in the playoffs without Rose - I think EVERYBODY knows that.

If Thibs had been there since 10/11, their current team would be a playoff seed.
 
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Here's one for the minutes mafia and playing-time police: As of Thursday morning, no Bull ranked in the NBA's top 10 in average minutes.

And after Jimmy Butler, who sat 11th at 36.6 minutes per game, no Bull was in the top 40, with Joakim Noah's 34.1 tied for 42nd.

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Coach Tom Thibodeau enjoys his playing-time distribution getting analyzed about as much as his film projector breaking. And with Luol Deng in Cleveland, Mike Dunleavy played all but nine seconds of Tuesday's victory in Atlanta and Butler became the first player in 13 years to log 60 minutes when he went 60:20 in the Bulls' Jan. 15 triple-overtime victory in Orlando.

So while there are anomalies, the perception that Thibodeau overworks his team exists mostly from the outside. Is Thibodeau demanding? No doubt — perhaps, players say, more mentally than physically.

But between shortening shootarounds by 15 minutes to rarely practicing on days off, Thibodeau has paced this season's Bulls with the aptitude of someone who has logged two-plus decades in the NBA. Which he emphatically reminded everyone on his 56th birthday Jan. 17.

"I think I have a pretty good understanding after 24 years for how to pace a team," Thibodeau said that day in Washington.

His players agree.


"As far as freshness, the only strenuous activities we have are the games," said Nazr Mohammed, a sage veteran with 15 years of experience. "You always hear he makes the team work so hard. But on days we do practice, we're in the gym for an hour. He expects us to put a lot of our own personal work in and lift weights, but that's nothing unusual.

"When we go, we go hard. But we have an automatic off day after a back-to-back. I was on teams where we went two or three weeks without off days. He's aware of the rest that is needed."

Beyond playing time, which has lessened this season, Thibodeau's greatest demands are off the court. Former Bull Kyle Korver used to joke about reviewing in shootarounds the opponent's seventh out-of-bounds option that hadn't been used all season.

It's no joke - players have said his switch and hedge scheme is through his very own Girolamo Cardano rule, created by revolving around specific points on the court, without one foot ever overlapping into another area; minimizing below the arc to the smallest possible space.

"The stuff he puts up on the board before the games is like a math quiz," Taj Gibson said. "We go over so many plays, and he drills it in your head. He challenges you mentally.

"We were up 30 once and I took a play off and he was on top of me: 'Taj, come on, let's go. Don't let him get to the right hand.' I was daydreaming in the corner and there were all these bodies between me and him, and he still knew I was slipping. He yelled my name. And that got me going."

This style isn't for everyone. But the management team of John Paxson and Gar Forman has filled the locker room with serious-minded professionals not averse to work or strong coaching.

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"Some guys wouldn't be able to handle the long periods of mental focus that he demands," Mohammed said. "If we go through a 30-minute walk-through, he wants you locked in and focused like it's the playoffs. That's a great thing because when the playoffs come, we don't have to turn it up. The focus and attention to detail, we do that all season."

Gibson said Thibodeau consistently stresses off-court rest, weightlifting and massages. And he demands accountability at all times.

"He'll snap on you quick," Gibson said, smiling. "He's like a teacher. He'll call you out in the middle of shootaround and ask you three basic moves the team might do off this play. I used to always mess up. Now I'm so locked in that I love when he calls on me."

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Beyond playing time, which has lessened this season, Thibodeau's greatest demands are off the court. Former Bull Kyle Korver used to joke about reviewing in shootarounds the opponent's seventh out-of-bounds option that hadn't been used all season.

It's no joke - players have said his switch and hedge scheme is through his very own Girolamo Cardano rule, created by revolving around specific points on the court, without one foot ever overlapping into another area; minimizing below the arc to the smallest possible space.

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Thibs the GOAT coach. Got Korver looking like DWade out there :wow:
 
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